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  1. Baldcyclist
    Member

    "We've just had Leven line reopened here"

    Best not talk about that, it's absolutely ruined everyones commute on the Fife circle!! Peak trains to Edin from East of Inverkeithing a nightmare now that the 6 carraige Dundee trains have been replaced by rammed 2 carraiage trains going back and forth to Leven.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  2. chdot
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  3. LaidBack
    Member

    Peak trains to Edin from East of Inverkeithing a nightmare now that the 6 carraige Dundee trains have been replaced by rammed 2 carraiage trains going back and forth to Leven.

    @Baldcyclist But more railways a good idea if they added some capacity in Fife? This problem has been going on for years it seems. Not unique to Scotland though. Passengers elsewhere have overcrowding and
    strikes.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  4. Baldcyclist
    Member

    I can only comment that before the timetable changes at the start of the month I got a seat on both journeys 9 days out of 10.

    Since the removal of the 6 carriage Dundee train, which now runs express, Haymarket - Inverkeithing - Kirkcaldy and that's it. The other stations Dalgety Bay, Aberdour, Burntisland are now served by a 2 carriage train on which I have to stand every day. Zero chance of getting on with a bike, that seems like less capacity for those smaller towns. Also ScotRail haven't procured new trains for the new line, so it's likely other bits of Scotland suffering as those trains diverted to Fife.

    Anecdotaly, folks from office who live in Dundee love that the train is now quicker, and much quieter.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    Clearly railways throughout the UK don’t have enough ’carriages’ (generally in fixed units of 2 and more).

    Also not enough drivers - especially where overtime is voluntary and football matches happen to be on!

    But, the Fife line(s) seem ‘special’ - as in extra-mismanaged.

    Though running a railway for the train companies not the passengers is not exactly new!

    The Leven line has started with an hourly service with a ‘plan’ for a half hour service with the extra trains going round the north half of the ‘circle’.

    Remember the Fife Circle?

    Edinburgh - Dunfermline - Thornton - return along the coast (and opposite direction too). Now (almost) no trains between Thornton and Kirkcaldy.

    If Kirkcaldy or Inverkeithing are your local stations, pretty good service. Four train Cos (inc Sleeper).

    Service to stations in between now poorer. Trains to/from Dundee no longer stop. If you want to go north of Kirkcaldy, it’s change and wait 1/4 hour.

    Also Dundee trains tend to have 3 or more coaches.

    So, more trains where there is an increased chance of not getting on (esp with bike or buggies) and almost certainly more people choosing cars…

    Posted 6 months ago #
  6. Frenchy
    Member

    Scotrail said their new timetable would involve:

    • An increase in the number of seats provided between Fife and Edinburgh from just under 16,000 in each direction each day to more than 19,000.
    • Commuters will see eight per cent more seats from Fife to Edinburgh in the morning peak and 12 per cent more from Edinburgh to Fife in the evening peak.

    Did that not happen or are the extra seats not adequate for the increased demand?

    Posted 6 months ago #
  7. Baldcyclist
    Member

    I suspect there are actually more seats running through Fife, but unfortunately with no one sitting on them as the trains run express past the commuter towns.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    “Did that not happen or are the extra seats not adequate for the increased demand?“

    Unclear

    First train out of Leven seems to have 6 coaches (except yesterday when it was cancelled).

    Don’t know if attracts a lot of passengers.

    Saturday can also have packed trains, not just because of rugby matches.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  9. LaidBack
    Member

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/24402447.labours-ian-murray-told-clarify-stance-nuclear-weapons/

    IAN Murray has been asked if he will stand by his “lifelong” opposition to nuclear weapons if he becomes Scottish secretary – or fall in line behind Keir Starmer’s “unshakeable commitment” to the UK’s Trident programme.

    The sole Scottish Labour MP elected at the 2019 General Election previously put his name to a Nobel-Prize-winning campaign calling for the complete prohibition of nuclear weapons.

    And writing for LabourList in 2015, he said: “I have been a lifelong opponent of nuclear weapons. For me, the moral case against them is overwhelming.”

    However, Murray is likely to be the next Scottish secretary and would be joining a government which recently unveiled a “triple-lock” commitment to the UK’s nuclear submarine programme.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  10. Baldcyclist
    Member

    Being opposed to nuclear weapons, whilst at the same time understanding the requirement for them aren't incompatible statements.
    Especially just now, and arguably the only reason tactical nuclear weapons haven't been used in Ukraine by Russia is because it's a NATO red line backed by threat of retaliation.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  11. Arellcat
    Moderator

    https://youtu.be/K8hyzDJ4sLA&t=1176

    He said he didn't like it, but he had to go along with it.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  12. MediumDave
    Member

    @Baldcyclist Yeah, the collectively feeble response to Russia's aggression in 2014 despite the supposed "security guarantees" has set back the course of strategic disarmament to square one. Nobody but nobody is giving up their nukes now and those who don't have will be trying to get them.

    Depressing.

    On the tactical nuke level regardless of what NATO may or may not do, Putler's army no longer has the skillset or sufficient suitable equipment to operate on a nuclear battlefield (if they ever had it, post-USSR). Use of tactical nukes would interfere with their own operations (meat assaults supported by their seemingly endless stocks of ancient armour, motorbikes and Chinese ATVs).

    Nuking Ukrainian positions and riding into the radioactive mess atop your armour as the Russians are wont to do is not going to achieve much at all. They might still do it of course (the Nova Khakhova dam being in my mind at this point).

    Maybe the Russians will use tactical nukes for terrorist purposes if close to defeat[1]. For now those weapons are more use for willy-waving at NATO.

    [1] Or in a vodka/Krokodil-related incident someone fires a nuclear-tipped Iskander rather than the regular kind...

    Posted 6 months ago #
  13. LaidBack
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  14. chdot
    Admin

  15. chdot
    Admin

  16. chdot
    Admin

    Perhaps

    Posted 5 months ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

  18. chdot
    Admin

    Exit poll* predicts Labour likely taking three Edinburgh seats from SNP (east, north, south west), holding South and Lib Dem holding West

    *It could be wrong

    https://x.com/donturvldr/status/1808990025406619849

    Posted 5 months ago #
  19. Baldcyclist
    Member

    Few senior SNP figures saying mid teens was their expectation, but 10 is possible.

    Odd thing for me tonight, I don't think I have ever went to vote and there be no party canvassers at the venue.

    Also seemed odd that our SNP candidate who lives a few doors away had the SNP stickers off her car when I was out with the dog - actually seemed more odd she was apparently in her house before voting closed.

    Reform rise seem worrying for next election, especially with populist parties on the rise across Europe, did they not see the hash we made of Brexit?????

    Not as young as I sed to be, I'll need to find out what happens in the morning, not going to make the traditional all nighter..

    Posted 5 months ago #
  20. gembo
    Member

    In England currently so caveat Britannia but SW apparently 70% win for Cyborg Scott

    Posted 5 months ago #
  21. SRD
    Moderator

    Scott Arthur wins Edin SW

    Posted 5 months ago #
  22. Dave
    Member

    The sun rises on a day everybody has been waiting for, a new Transport Convener will replace Scott "with friends like these, who needs enemies" Arthur!

    Posted 5 months ago #
  23. Baldcyclist
    Member

    So the 10 seat prediction for SNP not that for off, and the Tories routed. Good day North and South of the border. Two parties who have been in power for far too long and who have nothing to show for it well and truly skelped.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    EDINBURGH SOUTH WEST RESULT

    LAB GAIN FROM SNP

    LAB 18863
    SNP 12446
    REF 2087
    GRN 3450
    SFP 265
    CON 5558
    IND (Williamson) 181
    LD 3014

    https://x.com/donturvLDR/status/1809072449138405600

    Posted 5 months ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

  26. LaidBack
    Member

    Lumping SNP and Tory together as a joint problem was key strategy. (Obviously a false equivalence I would say)

    If we look at political map in Scotland then the optic is still a moderate country with Labour being the centre right and SNP to left. Tories as a British People's Party to the right. LibDems as non of the above.

    Media will now say SNP finished... but wait... did Labour not have only one MP for many years in Scotland and somehow they revived?

    All in all a demonstration of the FPTP system with all its extremes.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  27. neddie
    Member

    Good to see the Greens get 3rd place in 3 of the Edinburgh seats, and 4th place in one other.

    And the Greens also managed to beat Marie Clair-Munro and Christopher Cowdy, the two Tory Transport Committee members that were standing

    Posted 5 months ago #
  28. Baldcyclist
    Member

    "SNP and Tory together as a joint problem"

    Isn't it more, like UKIP/Reform, that the SNP are simply a symptom of the Tory problem?

    SNP will heve their day again in 15 or so years, I look back with some fondness at the Salmond era of competent devolved government.

    The frothing SNP of late blaming Westminister for everything wrong with the world, coupled with a programme of rate capping which impacts the poorest in society most, is the reason they need to be gone. Suspect they will be decimated in the 2016 Scottish elections.

    SNP will hybernate until the Tory/Reform coalition rears it's ugly head in 10 years or so.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  29. JELBERENCE
    Member

    I'd pray to never have
    a taste for gammon
    I'd dread that anyone
    was fond of Salmon

    Posted 5 months ago #
  30. Baldcyclist
    Member

    It's fair to say he's gone a bit mad, like Sturgeon, Blair, Thatcher and many before him have, and after him will.

    Hovever, he's the only SNP leader that's delivered you (I'm making presumptions of the leanings of this forum) a referendum on Independance.

    Posted 5 months ago #

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