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  • Started 6 months ago by chdot
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  1. LaidBack
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    Don't understand. If Labour has such a resource of talent why is SA having to try and join the ranks of its one Scottish MP?
    Took 3 minutes before he made the announcement!
    Also don't understand his hesitancy about saying Tory party is incompetent (yes - other parties are not immune).
    Who's going to do all the transport stuff if he goes? Was only interim tho ;-)

    Posted 3 months ago #
  2. chdot
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    “Who's going to do all the transport stuff if he goes?“

    I assume that’s not a serious Q…

    Posted 3 months ago #
  3. LaidBack
    Member

    Scottish votes might be important in next UK election?

    I often feel that opinion and policies here are seen as more of an irritant than threat to a collective UK view.
    The fact Scotland doesn't have NHS strikes is portrayed as having weak government in the mainly right wing press and state media. Free bus passes and prescriptions are largesse from UK tax payer etc.
    'Normality' is the ability to hold stocks of nukes and drill for oil and support USA and their policies.

    'Only' four times since 1945 was UK Labour majority ensured by votes in Scotland. In some ways that will say votes for Labour are important to help England get rid of current government as they have no devolution there.
    Anyway rambing on as reading on train...

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/24030794.bbc-urged-correct-claim-scottish-votes-general-elections/?s=07

    Posted 3 months ago #
  4. toomanybikes
    Member

    Four of eight since 1945 is higher than I expected.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  5. chdot
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    General election likely to take place on 14 November, says George Osborne

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/11/general-election-likely-to-take-place-on-14-november-says-george-osborne

    Posted 3 months ago #
  6. chdot
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  7. LaidBack
    Member

    The Edinburgh South MP added that "UK Labour Governments of the past were run by Scots" and that this will happen again.

    Ian Murray's statement is not going to go down well in England? People there want their country back etc. Too many Scottish voices could be very irritating. Also tricky in areas that are devolved.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  8. LaidBack
    Member

    This is interesting on votes from Scotland and how often they have affected UK results.
    https://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2024/01/15/without-scotland/

    So in a 65 year period Scotland started off with 74 seats, then 59, and now 57 (giving us even less influence) Scottish voters have:
    • stopped the Tories winning outright once in 1964,
    • possibly changed the outcome in 1974
    • denied the Tories an overall majority in 2010, only for Labour to make a mess of negotiations.
    (Tidied up a bit from BC but still messy)

    Posted 3 months ago #
  9. Yodhrin
    Member

    What's the phase? "England Decides, Scotland Abides".

    Posted 3 months ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    “People there want their country back etc.”

    Some do, and also like ‘tradition’

    100 years ago (literally) -

    Ramsay MacDonald: Labour’s First Prime Minister

    It's a hundred years since Ramsay MacDonald assumed office as Labour’s first Prime Minister. The illegitimate son of a farm labourer and servant girl, he was the lowest born of any PM, and brought with him a Cabinet including miners, railwaymen and steel workers the like of which had never been seen in British government.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001vcgv

    “Too many Scottish voices could be very irritating.“

    Perhaps.

    Some might like the idea of a range of ‘voices’ beyond public school/Oxbridge/(former) student politicians/Party careerists/people from Islington/etc.

    Not really on offer though!

    Of course rather a lot can/will happen before the election - even if it’s ‘forced’ to happen in the first part of the year. (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/jan/15/sunak-faces-tory-meltdown-as-deputy-chairs-back-rwanda-bill-rebellion)

    Believe it or not…

    Isaac Levido tells backbench Tory MPs to end infighting and focus on ‘narrow path’ to general election victory

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/15/get-serious-sunaks-campaign-director-tells-tories-they-can-win

    It seems likely that in England there will be significant amounts of ‘tactical voting’ designed to remove as many Tories as possible.

    Some of that will happen in Scotland, but the unpopularity of the SNP (relative to the fairly recent past and its performance in Gov, more than any opposition to ‘Indy’) makes predictions more difficult.

    Arguably the behaviour of Lab could have more effect on the result than seems possible given the unpopularity of Sunak and co. Ian Murray’s word won’t be much help in England (not that many people will notice). In Scotland, hard to see it as beneficial for Lab trying to win people back from being ‘SNP voters’. Tactical voting of staying at home may be even stronger north of the border.

    Plus -

    General election: Labour would need record swing to win

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67361138

    New boundaries-

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/jan/16/find-your-constituency-uk-general-election-2024-boundary-changes-votes-map-postcode

    Posted 3 months ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    PLUS!!!

    An estimated 3 million Britons living abroad for more than 15 years will regain their right to vote in all elections in the UK from Tuesday, ending 20 years of broken promises by successive UK governments.

    The end of the so-called 15-year rule means millions more could be enfranchised in time for the next general election, the date of which has yet to be decided by the prime minister, Rishi Sunak.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/16/britons-living-abroad-regain-right-to-vote-in-uk-elections-as-15-year-rule-ends

    Posted 3 months ago #
  12. LaidBack
    Member

    An estimated 3 million Britons living abroad for more than 15 years will regain their right to vote in all elections in the UK from Tuesday, 

    Ex-pats are always so progressive ;-)

    Posted 3 months ago #
  13. chdot
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  16. LaidBack
    Member

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/24250557.wes-streeting-takes-175k-donors-linked-private-health-firms/

    Payback time all getting lined up nicely? This combined with claims that other parties aren't committed to NHS.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    Controversial shake-up plans shelved in of favour new proposals but Leith left out of seat name

    Controversial plans to redraw Edinburgh’s political map by linking Portobello with Midlothian and Cramond with Broxburn have been abandoned and a new set of proposals unveiled in their place.

    But the new changes could also prove controversial because Leith does not feature in any of the constituency names. The public has a month to give their views on the latest plans, with the new boundaries set to come into effect for the next Scottish Parliament elections in 2026.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20240416070954/https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-constituencies-controversial-shake-up-plans-shelved-in-of-favour-new-proposals-but-leith-left-out-of-seat-name-4592199

    To view our proposals, comment on them or draw your own boundaries, visit our consultation site.

    https://boundaries.scot/resources/news/16-april-2024-second-review-scottish-parliament-boundaries-consultation-revised

    Posted 1 week ago #
  18. Baldcyclist
    Member

    More chaos at Holyrood as the house of cards continues to crumble.

    TBF, they could at least have let them out the back door, that must have been sore looking all dejected in front of the cameras for all to see. #cruel

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cz5dy15grjnt

    Posted 4 days ago #
  19. LaidBack
    Member

    With election coming up maybe easier?

    FM has few friends in media of course.

    My vote can't go to parties that support climate destruction and the supply of weapons used on innocent civilians. Labour and Conservative parties only offer more of the same imho. LibDem no idea.

    99% of the millionaire owned press are desperate to suggest that this signals the end of the move towards self government. Recent polls suggest otherwise.

    Posted 4 days ago #
  20. Baldcyclist
    Member

    "suggest that this signals the end of the move towards self government. Recent polls suggest otherwise."

    This is true, indy polls still in the +40%.

    Polls also suggest Labour will overturn SNP in next election.

    Not sure that will happen myself, but people can clearly see that on almost every measure the SNP govt has failed on it's stated priorities, and the corruption in the party doesn't help either.
    They are going to get a bloody nose and Yousaf will likely be out, tbf no-one will notice that as he is practically invisible as a leader.

    If people no longer trust SNP, I'm not quite sure of the route to self rule...

    Posted 4 days ago #

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