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Driving to school

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  • Started 9 months ago by chdot
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  1. chdot
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    Just had to start a thread when I saw this -

    I had two young children at different schools, only a mile and a half from home but in different directions. Both had to be there at the same time. I had to drive to make it happen.

    https://twitter.com/caroleleg/status/1772436359891853670

    Pure Schrödinger

    (Of course Twitter post might) be irony(?)

    Posted 9 months ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    "Driving your children to school" - ah yes, the "natural" way for kids to start the day.

    Some actually feel it's zealotry to promote kids walking/cycling to school but 'natural' to drive them.

    An estimated 27% of congestion in London's morning rush hour is due to school traffic

    https://twitter.com/drewsnx/status/1772301545398280621

    Posted 9 months ago #
  3. Stickman
    Member

    In the council “Hands Up” surveys done at schools, what is the distinction between “Park & Stride” and driven to work? How far away does a kid have to walk to be in the former category?

    Just looking at data for Corstorphine PS and around a third of kids (200) are in these two categories. Explains a huge amount about the current objections to the Manse Road bus gate. (The furthest point in the catchment area is less than 1 mile away)

    Posted 9 months ago #
  4. SRD
    Moderator

    would be interesting to know how many kids live out of catchment. Split families add to complication - one parent lives in catchment but the other doesn't.

    That was always the struggle at Bruntsfield. Kids being driven from the other side of town (granton, pilrig etc). at one point I even knew someone who drove child in from the borders!

    Of course I also cycle past in catchment addresses and see people loading kids in BPS school uniform into car for tiny distances.

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  5. Morningsider
    Member

    @Stickman - Sustrans uses travel time rather than distance to define 'park and stride'. The minimum walking time to be counted as 'park and stride', rather than driven, is 10 minutes.

    I reckon 10 minutes equates to about half a mile, possibly slightly less for younger children. I suspect there is massive over-counting of park and stride, as I am not aware of many parents who drive that purposefully park far from the school. I reckon many really short walks (100m - 300m) probably get counted.

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  6. Stickman
    Member

    @SRD, Morningsider - thanks, that’s helpful to know. Lots of parents at Corstorphine seem to park on Dovecot Avenue/Ladywell Avenue and walk the kids through St Margaret’s Park, so like you say are probably getting counted.

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  7. acsimpson
    Member

    Corstorphine catchment has recently changed, or more accurately is in the process of changing. Maybury primary has taken the remaining chunk of it's historical remote catchment. Even with that change it's furthest point is about 1.2 miles away in East Craigs Rigg.

    But Maybury primary school isn't yet open and even when it opens later this year it will only have primary 1 pupils. So I think we need to consider Maybury as part of the Corstorphine catchment a while longer. This means the furthest houses are Nether Lennie and Lennymuir which are both over 2.5 miles away. I think this makes it the "urban" primary with the most remote housing.

    I can understand why some in the catchment might feel they have no choice but to drive, however assuming an even spread of kids across the houses in the catchment I doubt there are 200 kids at the school who live more than 10 minutes walk from the school.

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  8. chdot
    Admin

    Worried parents have called police to their children's school as drivers flout traffic restrictions at dropping off and picking up time.

    Council chiefs installed signs and planters outside Granton Primary School in Wardieburn Street West in a bid to create a safer route to school for children and families.

    But parents told Edinburgh Live how vehicles - including private hires - are still using the road in the morning and afternoon as kids walk to and from the school.

    https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/police-patrol-edinburgh-school-drop-28884154

    Posted 9 months ago #
  9. CocoShepherd
    Member

    Council chiefs installed signs and planters

    "But what more can we do???????????"

    Signs AND planters is already going over and above...

    Posted 9 months ago #

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