It's also interesting that the brave MP didn't take to FB to make the same claim about "unnamed Living Streets people, in unknown locations..."
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Dundee Street & Fountainbridge "Improvements"
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Posted 1 month ago #
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Scott Arthur lives in Fairmilehead. If geography precludes commentary, I assume we are now living in the age of gated 15 minute neighbourhoods the tinfoil hats feared were coming for us.
(I've done my best at a provocation on Bluesky. He's been ignoring me recently though).
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“Of course, Blackford Safer Routes exists in its current form to defend active travel provision due to Arthur's sleekit convenorship of the Transport Committee coming for 'their' area...”
SA’s actions over the years have been genuinely shocking.
‘I’m a cyclist (when not on the front seat of a bus)’ hasn’t translated into ‘I’ll do my best to accelerate the sluggish progress (over decades) for people who (try to) get around conveniently and safely by means other than personal motors.
Wasn’t expecting him to become an advocate for road pricing or anything ‘too radical’ but the extent to which he’s pandered to those who want to drive quickly between two points and park outside their houses instead of on their drives is (mostly) unfathomable.
‘I’ll get a few more votes’ isn’t a convincing explanation for his actions and mantras about ‘it’s for local people to decide’.
Posted 1 month ago # -
It is extremely telling to me that a Labour MP is exercising exactly the same rhetoric as Tory counterpart Cllr Munro does constantly - "We need to listen to residents. No, no not those ones - the ones who loudly agree with me."
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"I’m a cyclist" - he's a vehicular cyclist with little empathy. He can't imagine what it's like for a 12 year-old to ride independently, or a mother with an 8 year-old, or a less-confident rider...
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I think he would make a great psychiatric case study
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"I’m a cyclist" - he's a vehicular cyclist with little empathy. He can't imagine what it's like for a 12 year-old to ride independently, or a mother with an 8 year-old, or a less-confident rider...
I had detailed conversations with him in his first term as a councillor about exactly this sort of thing, and it was clear that he is capable of understanding exactly these kinds of issue.
I have no idea if he was just pandering to his audience or if he has had a genuine change of opinion.
Posted 1 month ago # -
Quite special that the chosen image in the Chipwrapper article very clearly shows the tactiles marking the crossings of the cycle way and road.
Posted 1 month ago # -
Well
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In its submission to Edinburgh council’s consultation on the plans, Sight Scotland says it strongly supports active travel initiatives, but expresses “serious opposition” to floating bus stops, also known as bus stop bypasses.
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That’s a constant opinion. Q is ‘are they right or unwilling to deal with evidence/facts?’
Ok
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It says: “Compelling evidence demonstrates that these designs pose significant dangers to people with visual impairment, other disabled people and many other groups of pedestrians.“
That’s good
Presume CEC has seen the evidence(?)
This seems to be a valid point of view
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“The solution to conflict between users of bicycles and users of motor vehicle must not transfer the conflict zone to one between cyclists and pedestrians, particularly where this disproportionately impacts disabled people.”
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I suspect ‘we’ can agree with that
BUT is this happening in this particular scheme.
It’s easy (and often justified) to suspect LSE’s motives and ‘anti-cycling’ extremes, but some other groups may have useful insights/suggestions.
Presume Spokes is talking with some of the ‘interest groups’?
It would be nice to think they work together to improve this and other CEC schemes…
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Sauchiehall St in Glasgow has a bi-directional, segregated cycle lane. There are zebra crossings periodically. Between the cycle lane and the road are benches, Sheffield stands, trees – and bus stops.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/oLiGB42NDv9VFZiP9
Is that not a floating bus stop? I suppose one could hardly tell for all the blood and guts spilled everywhere.
Glasgow just got on and built it. But somehow 'Edinburgh is special'.
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Certainly Living Streets Edinburgh has conflated shared-use bus boarders with floating bus stops and it wouldn't surprise me if Sight Scotland makes a similar error.
The former has much more potential for conflict than the latter but even so it's not clear that there's much of an evidence base for either having problems beyond those caused by poor implementation (e.g. Elm Row).
https://therantyhighwayman.blogspot.com/2021/10/floating-bus-stops.html
IF LSE said "fix these particular problems with the floating bus stop and here is how" I would believe they are arguing in good faith. But no, what we get is "floating bus stop BAAAAD".
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A good perspective here:
The usual crowd are pushing the idea the Equality Act makes floating bus stops unlawful. Of course it doesn’t. It doesn’t create a hierarchy of protected characteristics & floating bus stops have both accessibility benefits & risks to those within several protected groups that must be weighed
The Equality Act sets a framework for decision making in this situation which requires decisions are proportional, balanced, evidence-based & reasonable. It is unsurprising that real risk of death and exclusion of whole groups like children or users of mobility aids must be given significant weight
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It's the usual reductive nonsense from people with an agenda that doesn't stand up to a moments scrutiny.
It’s incredible how successfully niche campaigners have been able to shut down debate - suggest it may be a bit more complex & you’re immediately accused of ableism. & also how people who should know better have fallen for seeing it as a ‘VI vs cyclists’ issue.
https://bsky.app/profile/hoxtonrich.bsky.social/post/3lt3fqvupcm2j
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Blackford Safe Routes have added a helpful explainer on 'floating' bus stops to their page:
Posted 1 month ago # -
So many things LSE should try to get CEC to sort.
So many things CEC should be able to deal with.
Wasn’t even that wet today.
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