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Quality Street/ Main Street roundabout at D Mains

(8 posts)

  1. NiallA
    Member

    Hi all. One or two of you may have followed the saga of improvements to this junction (https://what3words.com/clocks.grants.coins). CEC has recently released an informal "consultation" about 2 competing options - either redesigning the roundabout to have only one lane each side per arm (yay!), but no cycling infra (boo!) or signalising the junction, but with no cycling infra (boo!) and making East Barnton Gardens one way uphill (boo!). It all looks fairly deleterious to cycling in the area and is quite an important E-W route conecting to Clermiston, Drumbrae, Barnton etc.

    CEC have rather sneaked this out over the festive season (19 Dec to 16 Jan), so only 5 days to comment.

    If you ever use the route if in NW Ed, could you maybe consider slinging in an email to express some level of grumpiness please?

    This is my particular patch of campaigning territory, but I thought I had managed to make some progress on getting the message through about cycling at this junction, but it would appear not...

    Thanks all.

    Posted 1 month ago #

  2. chdot
    Admin

    Now

    “

    We propose make modifications to the junction which will improve safety for pedestrians including those with mobility issues and cyclists. In doing so, we seek to provide a space which is more people focussed where residents and visitors can shop, relax and live comfortably in this space.

    “

    https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/roads-travel-parking/davidson’s-mains-roundabout

    Previously!

    https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/dmains-upgrade/

    “

    Can cycle facilities be introduced?

    At present, there are no plans to introduce cycle facilities at this location.

    “

    https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/dmains-upgrade/results/responsetoconsultation.pdf

    Posted 1 month ago #

  3. NiallA
    Member

    Thanks, chdot - I don't think I had ever read that. Given that all the work here was started by a pedestrian fatality on the roundabout in 2017, you can see things are moving at their usual sprightly pace...

    Posted 1 month ago #

  4. wingpig
    Member

    I happened to pass by the other day but generally only go through there every six months, usually unintentionally and sometimes regretfully, often just taking whichever route seems the quickest way to escape. It currently seems to be treated as four simultaneous straight-through movements. In the evening, cars going north from Quality St seem to win by weight of numbers - is this reversed in the morning? Whilst I hate split crossings and inadequate median refuges, roundabouts' entries and exits are very different things and I don't know that I'd feel protected enough by mere Belisha beacons to cross in one go without an extra couple of sets of eyes, unless all the approaches and exits had speedbumps on them and the round bit had strips of that lumpy, rattly paint. Was it ever signalised in the past?

    Posted 1 month ago #

  5. NiallA
    Member

    @winpig, yes, mornings probably are the opposite there, but evenings always seem worse for some reason: Ferry Road -> D Mains -> Barnton is maybe just collecting more journeys at going-home time... I've lived in teh area since 2003 - it has always been zebras during that period. Not sure about before. It's a pretty unfriendly roundabout to cycle through - maybe better if there's only one lane per side per arm (as opposed to now, where some directions have two lanes to keep an eye on), but I can't see why some parallel zebras couldn't be used to give more protected cycle crossings here, given that an upgrade to the roundabout is Option 1?

    Posted 1 month ago #

  6. nevelbell
    Member

    @NiallA I've always had a dream of avoiding Quality Street and that roundabout when traveling from Backhall by using a cycling underpass. It would run from a bit of land to the right of the Craigcrook Road/Queensferry Road junction and under Queensferry road and appear in DMains park. I imagine such an underpass would be too expensive, hence it being a dream.

    Posted 1 month ago #

  7. neddie
    Member

    Comments to be in today!

    @NiallA, where do we send comments? The link above seems to be broken

    Posted 1 month ago #

  8. NiallA
    Member

    Weird - maybe they have started to take the page down?

    They just asked for comments to be emailed to

    localtrafficimprovement@edinburgh.gov.uk

    and there was no particular code/ ID number to add - the web page/ project was just entitled Davidson's Mains Roundabout, so I just used that as the Subject Line.

    Cheers.

    Posted 1 month ago #

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