"Tube style chart features over 400 city watering holes"
http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Tube-style-chart-features-over.6777763.jp
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Another Edinburgh map!
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Posted 12 years ago #
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Now THIS is useful :)
Posted 12 years ago # -
It still exposes the weakness of the format though -- making eg Cloisters and Doctor's appear far apart, also putting Polwarth tavern closer to Kilted Pig than to Golden Rule.
Posted 12 years ago # -
@SRD
What are these names you talk of?
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Surely any map involving pubs shouldn't have straight lines(?)
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Of course people use the format because it looks nice and is "a design classic". And then use it to try and show spatial relationships, which it was never intended to do... (and as SRD points out, it doesn't do very well)
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"I don't think I've got 100 per cent of the pubs in Edinburgh on there"
You're damn skippy you don't.
"The clear design and layout of the streets will make it easy for people to navigate their way around the streets."
In your dreams.
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And then use it to try and show spatial relationships, which it was never intended to do
The beauty of the original is that it didn't show distance, but it did show junctions. the problem with the 'innertube' map, is that while it shows junctions (access points), but they are not always visible on the ground.
maybe all the 'big' intersections could be names/painted on the pavement. eg 'turn here for slateford station/asda chesser'. this is viewforth bridge, exit here for fountainbridge'.
When exploring the NEPN a few weeks ago, the '5 ways' etc designations on the spokes map were very useful for working out where we were in real life and on the map.
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"maybe all the 'big' intersections"...
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"the '5 ways' etc designations on the spokes map were very useful for working out where we were in real life and on the map."
5 Ways (map) is fairly unique in its descriptive obviousness, but I certainly think it should be 'marked' in some way
(UPDATE - CycleStreets calls it Five Ways, which is probably better.)
Sustrans has done most of its artworks away from Edinburgh. I always think that NEPN (etc.) needs more 'destinations' and benches.
I suspect most people on here see the the paths as pleasant commute/leisure routes, but for young children even a mile or two is an adventure. Some people would also be encouraged to walk the paths more if there were suitable places to sit occasionally.
Perhaps when the 5th 'leg' is finally tarmaced (soon) some further thought can be given to improving this 'iconic' meeting place.
All the paths used to be railways. The two from the south joined up before going into the tunnel. The east-west route crossed on a bridge.
THIS is what the junction of the rough path used to be like at the other end (before continuing to the line that is still in use at Powderhall - left in photo).
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Talking of benches!
By coincidence I've just read this -
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TOP SCOTS APPRENTICE STONEMASONS TO CARVE OUT VICTORY AT ELGIN CATHEDRAL THIS WEEKENDOver the weekend the three teams will be tasked with hewing and building a stone bench using sandstone quarried in Scotland. Three independent judges from the stonemasonry Industry will allocate marks against industry standards on completion of the benches.
"Including two apprentice stonemasons from Telford College!
Posted 12 years ago # -
5 Ways is fairly unique in its descriptive obviousness
Although as the Clearing House junction diagram you link to shows, it was never actually a 5 way junction, rather an overpass of the Caledonian Railway's North Leith Line across the North British Trinity Junction of the Edinburgh, Leith & Newhaven.
The Clearing House junction diagrams - unlike Harry Beck's Tube map - are designed to show space and distance between junctions and stations correctly. But of course then get very complicated, as the area around Dalry and Haymarket on that one shows.
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"it was never actually a 5 way junction"
Er no, but it is NOW!
When I said "5 Ways is fairly unique in its descriptive obviousness" I also meant 'on an Edinburgh cycle route'.
Posted 12 years ago # -
But it might thoroughly confuse an old railwayman on his first trip down there in 40 years!
Posted 12 years ago # -
"But it might thoroughly confuse an old railwayman on his first trip down there in 40 years!"
He'll have to take a route familiarisation refresher course.
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