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  1. Edinburgh Cycle Training
    Member

    Friday night's rubbish driving. Actually, rubbish is way too polite.

    I was entering The Park from the Holyrood Road dog leg. Riding in primary to turn left at the mini roundabout and head towards Meadowbank. A wee red car (possibly a corsa) comes up on my right. I assumed he was going to take a right towards The Commie, but no, he wants to overtake me and make a left!

    I didn't yield so thankfully he slammed on his brakes so as not to total the traffic island, rather than side swipe me.

    His revenge was to undertake and drive alongside me towards The Palace roundabout, wind down his window, shout profanities and spit on me. He then cut in front of me just before the roundabout, nearly (I hope not deliberately) knocking my front wheel.

    Reg was or similar to LK60 ZKV

    Seriously rubbish driver, seriously odious human being.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  2. acsimpson
    Member

    Isn't spitting on someone a form of assault. I don't know if the police would be interested but it might be worth reporting them.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  3. Edinburgh Cycle Training
    Member

    I wondered that. Almost called them on Friday night but I was seething and thought I should calm down first.

    Might email them and see what they say. Cheers.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  4. SRD
    Moderator

    Idiot trying to cut from Lonsdale terrace to Leven terrace/gkengyle terrace

    This rat run needs closing. Any suggestions as to how?

    (I'll start a new thread)

    Posted 9 years ago #

  5. paul.mag
    Member

    Old Dalkeith road heading up towards the pool this morning a W reg dark blue smart car decides it doesn't want to wait in the traffic queue so pulls into the bus lane approx 6 ft in front of me. Fairly annoying, then driver continues up bus lane it's about 07:50 so now breaking the law. He then overtakes a cyclist giving her about 4 inches space between her elbow and his wing mirror. It was a ridiculously dangerous piece of driving had the cyclist deviated from her line she'd have been hit. I did catch up with the driver on the meadows and tried to have a chat with him about it but the blank eyes told me it just wasn't registering and he didn't care. Just want to check that it's definitely against the law to put a D lock through his window in order to try to make them care?
    This was followed up by a car being let out of a side street by a fellow motorist and subsequently not having enough space to actually join traffic so they just sat across the cycle lane, as you do

    Posted 9 years ago #

  6. dougal
    Member

    Driver of 4x4 travelling westbound along the George Street cycle lane, who waved regally as I shouted "you're in the cycle lane!". I don't think it was Brenda but certainly gave the impression with that one gesture that rules for the rest of us wouldn't apply to her.

    Not a minute later I was at the cycle stop lights at the exit to the same lane when the driver of a trades van did a half-turn into the cycle lane, saw me astride the bike facing out, realised what they were about to do and continued round the roundabout for a second time before heading off in a different direction.

    I'm now beginning to wonder if chicanes on cycle paths are not so much to slow cyclists down as to make it obvious to drivers that it's no-access. It seems the logic "if it's wide enough, that's where I'm going" applies.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  7. le_soigneur
    Member

    Driver of #40 Lothian Bus going west on Queensferry Rd at Craigleith traffic lights.
    My wife was stopped in front on the ASZ with another cyclist, the bus was behind. Even though bus stop is only 20 yards further on,
    when the lights changed & the other cyclist took off quicker, the driver attempted an overtake between the 2 bikes, didn't get ahead of her but still muscled in to the bus-stop, forcing her onto the kerb after banging on the bus to no avail.
    His excuse "But I had overtaken you" translates to "I had go my nose in front of you and I am bigger than you". He will iminently find out how untrue this is, in a nice warm office in the depot with a video replay & the customer services officer in attendance.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  8. algo
    Member

    @le_soigneur - I hope your wife is ok from that idiotic bit of driving. I had a similar one today at the east end of melville drive by a coach who partially overtook me leaving me on the inside at the lights where it was intending to turn left. As it arrived the lights changed leaving me on the inside looking like the silly cyclist going up the inside of a left-turning coach. I would never have done that, but I was already there when it started and actually I chose to speed up and try to make the driver acknowledge my presence at the driver's door - all fine in the end, but quite frustrating.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  9. le_soigneur
    Member

    I take it back, it was a StageCrash coach. So not much chance of satisfaction there.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  10. wingpig
    Member

    BRRRM! Big beige utey-jeepy thing wants to cut the corner from South Charlotte Street to Princes Street, but there's a cyclist in the way, temeriticiously not turning too tightly on the tram tracks. BRRRM again, but it's sadly too wide to get round the corner within the confines of its own lane at that speed and has to slow again, and now the cyclist's in front of it when it reaches the start of the bus lane. Now the cyclist's slowing and waving out the bus pulling out of the bus stop! How is a big beige utey-jeepy thing meant to BRRRM in these conditions? Finally, outside Wagamama, there's space in the left lane. BRRRM.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  11. HankChief
    Member

    Was brought to you by the driver of a black beemer with blacked out windows who confused himself with a bus on approach to Drumbrae RAB and then crept forward when I didn't hitting the bag on my (empty) tagalong, which has a big flag on it.

    I have to admit to taking my time to inspect my bag and his car for damage but couldn't find any. He didn't get out of the car.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  12. chrisfl
    Member

    On the way home from work with a colleague yesterday evening, we turned left out of Robertson Avenue and joined the queue of traffic waiting to turn right into Shandon Place.

    When I felt a tap on my shoulder, a driver had got out of her car walked up to us to say that we weren't allwed to cycle 2 abreast.

    I pointed out that actually the Highway code does permit cycling 2 abreast and that she maybe needed ton do her driving test again.

    Needless to say once the light turned green, we did cycle single file but aggressively maintained the primary position, and due to the car revving it's engine behind us, processed more cautiously (slowly) than we normally would...

    Posted 9 years ago #

  13. CJC
    Member

    This was from Monday night, just had time to look at the video. I thought I was going to be flattened or witness a head on collision!

    The black car had P-plates on and had a small child in the back seat. The driver overtook me at speed but gave me so much room the car was actually in line with the parked cars on the right.

    I initially thought she was going to plow straight into the parked cars before she swerved back into me to avoid the white car as it emerged from the side street (without looking, it seems).

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    Posted 9 years ago #

  14. neddie
    Member

    a driver had got out of her car walked up to us to say that we weren't allwed to cycle 2 abreast

    erm...

    And what about, "you're not allowed to abandon your car in the middle of the road, in the middle of a busy junction, with the engine running and not be in full control of it, in order to abuse a vunerable road user"

    Posted 9 years ago #

  15. SRD
    Moderator

    Big hummer like thing (probably just a souped up rangerover) that went through red on Home st when another cyclist and I had green on tarvit...

    To be fair, we were both anticipating the change, and moving on Amber, but you have to at that junction or else you get rear-ended by impatient cars behind and sideswiped by the ones turning left out of Gilmore place

    Posted 9 years ago #

  16. ih
    Member

    Tricky one. I too tend to move off on amber, but strictly we shouldn't. What this incident clearly shows though is how many motorists go through on red. My driving instructor used to tell me, "amber [that is after green] means stop." Now it is common for no cars to stop on amber, and about 2 cars to follow them on red.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  17. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Not Edinburgh but Aberdeen;

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-31295774

    "Footage shows Aberdeen driver 'with phone and laptop'"

    Posted 9 years ago #

  18. paddyirish
    Member

    Was brought to you by the truck driver turning right at the Eastern End of Melville Drive. I was behind him and I thought he was going to hang back as he was about 3rd in line. The 2 cars in front in the yellow box went through after the lights went red. Then he made to go and had made quite a lot of progress , but saw that the northbound traffic was already moving. He got a very hard stare from a cyclist who had to brake suddenly when she saw him. It was enough to stop him in his tracks out in the middle of the junction...

    I'd seen enough and decided to cross the junction with the pedestrians.

    Only ride this route once a fortnight or so, but this sort of thing happens almost every time. Think this junction's light sequencing is going to encourage bad driving like this.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  19. SRD
    Moderator

    taxi driver who made the mistake of knocking down the Edinburgh chair of Living Streets while he was crossing Merchiston Ave where it meets Granville terrace.

    One of my 'favourites' - got some hand signals off a driver there last week when I had the temerity to continue crossing even though he wanted to turn in.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  20. dougal
    Member

    Driver tried to enter roundabout at top of London Road by driving into me, just at the point where my trouser hem caught the chainring and brought me to a halt. I was not best impressed with any of that.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  21. ARobComp
    Member

    A red light runner near my gym today near Asda (chesser?) - They ran a red SO LATE that even if I'd started making my right turn about a second after the green light I'd have still been killed. Thankfully I saw the crazy person coming and managed to hold hard until they'd passed.

    Fingers crossed they don't kill someone in their dozy state.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  22. friskiffla
    Member

    Was actually on Friday evening. I was walking across the meadows after a night out and was surprised to see someone driving their car down middle meadow walk. They ended up going all the way across to Melville Drive albeit very slowly. They weren't police or council or anything so I assume that they'd made a mistake.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  23. SRD
    Moderator

    three small white vehicles liveried as 'grant management' all drove up through bristo square only to stop with their engines running in front of the student union building. obviously they couldn't go forward (into the underpass). unfortunately, neither could they go backward, as they'd obviously forgotten how to reverse. and it being 11am on a Tuesday, the area was thronged with students. nightmare.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  24. earthowned
    Member

    @SRD - I saw the same liveried vehicles at 10am stuck at the bollards at Charles St in front of the informatics forum. Why they couldn't park and walk to where they wanted to go I don't know. No they had to drive right up to the front doors....

    Posted 9 years ago #

  25. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/aberdeen/486539/police-charge-man-driving-whilst-using-laptop-phone-headphones

    Posted 9 years ago #

  26. paddyirish
    Member

    Riding along Princes St about 5.25 to find that even though our light was green, cars coming off Charlotte Square kept on coming so that they so that they blocked the entire yellow box. Cyclist alongside me after having to walk his bike past the car, made a signal at the driver along the lines of this is not acceptable and stopped at next light. Driver then pulls up to remonstrate with cyclist, rather than turn on to Lothian Road, holding up all traffic behind...

    Posted 9 years ago #

  27. chdot
    Admin

    "holding up all traffic behind...

    Yep!

    Posted 9 years ago #

  28. Kenny
    Member

    I'd have to say "bizarre" or "unexplained", rather than bad for this story, but...

    So today, I'm coming off the NEPN at Roseburn, at the Balbirnie Place exit, and I'm about to turn left on to Roseburn Terrace to head out of town. A couple of fellow cyclists are directly behind me, having followed me down the steep off-ramp. We're sitting behind a car which is waiting to turn left in the same way we are - slightly unusual, you don't often see cars using that road. I'm sitting behind it for a few seconds, and I'm considering being naughty and nipping on to the pavement since I can use the bus lane, when the driver gets out and says something to me, not entirely sure what, but then opens the back door behind her driver-side to do, erm, something. I was bemused, but took this as permission to mount the pavement and carried on my way.

    I did wonder what she was up to. If either of those other cyclists are on here and had some more insight into what she was up to, do shout...

    Posted 9 years ago #

  29. twq
    Member

    From yesterday on the way to work. Couple of cars RLJing. Very close slow pass from a Nissan Micra (SM09 ZPT) on Queen's Dr. Just squeezed through instead of waiting 6 seconds for oncoming traffic to clear.
    Weird driving from a silver Hyundai (EO14 CWV) on Grassmarket/Fountainbridge. Turned out to be looking at his phone. Didn't seem to see a problem with it when I asked. Numpty.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  30. dougal
    Member

    Yesterday riding home. The driver who entered a main road from a side road, checking to the right for traffic in their intended lane but not checking to the left to ensure their way was clear. In this case, I was travelling in the opposite direction, and being overtaken. So essentially this driver tried to pull out into an oncoming vehicle. The overtaker pulled in sharp, when meant I had to pull in sharper.

    Posted 9 years ago #

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