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  1. wingpig
    Member

    Large black SUV thing along the lines of SB12 FBU whose driver did that overtake-before-the-pinch-point-islands on Beaufort Road, followed by a la-la-la-look-straight-ahead-at-all-the-pretty-stationary-vehicles when he hit the queue for the lights across Marchmont Road, his eyes barely flickering as I passed right in front of him before making my way to the ASL box.

    Large silver thing whose driver thought they might ignore the "traffic in the right-hand lane merge into the left lane" arrows on Holyrood Park Road past Pollock, initially accelerating in order to get beyond me before noticing that there were cars in front of me, also in the left lane, who would have been harder to bunt out of the way.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  2. Stickman
    Member

    As I walked into my work's car park at lunchtime a large lorry was leaving the loading bay, presumably after making a delivery.

    Despite being parked 5 seconds earlier he was typing into his phone as he went through the pedestrian crossing and out to the street. He had no clue that I or any pedestrians were there.

    It was a hire vehicle (EH27 Hire, I think).

    Posted 9 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    Van going east on Canaan Lane - the bit that starts at the Canny Man with the clear "no entry" and "except cycles" signs.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. condor2378
    Member

    How much bad driving can you witness in 3 minutes?

    http://youtu.be/Ap1SAz6TuyY

    Posted 9 years ago #
  5. Stickman
    Member

    This evening I was driving through Drumbrae roundabout on to Glasgow Road when a van very aggressively pulled in behind me from Meadowplace Road. I was in the inside lane and he accelerated right up behind me, then sharply swerved into the outside lane. He then proceeded to tailgate the car in front, making moves as if to undertake. My presence in the inside lane stopped him from that, but he was dangerously close to the next car.

    All along Glasgow Road as far as Maybury (where he turned off) he gave off all the telltale signs of an impatient and aggressive driver.

    And which company did this van belong to? None other than Chaplins Disco, the great supporters of the anti-20mph campaign. It explained a lot.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. barnton-to-town
    Member

    This morning at about 9.15 at West Coates, just before the Apex hotel, you may have witnessed a lot of bad language and suffered a slight hold up.
    A 'lady' in a white Fiat Punto decided to left hook me as I was about to pass the Magdala Crescent opening. Her front wheel had barely passed me when she made this decision. I knew it was about to happen as her left indicator was on. The choice was to brake hard, or go with her round the corner ... so I went round the corner and immediately took primary to pass the parked cars. This resulted in her sitting on her horn.
    Enough was enough; I stopped where I was, turned round to ask her what the problem was and whether her actions thus far were acceptable driving. She was out her car like a shot and, apparently, "I were f*****g indicating" (in broadest Leeds (I used to live there)) is in fact justification for atrocious driving behaviour.
    Embarrassingly, I reacted to the bad language in kind, and the argument escalated for a couple of minutes.
    When we finally went on our ways, I caught up with her again just as she sailed through a red light at Eglinton Crescent/Palmerston Place.
    The GoPro or equivalent is definitely on the shopping list.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  7. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    Condor2378, check your GoPro, I think you have it on the Buckfast and diet pills setting.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  8. condor2378
    Member

    @cyclingmollie

    Yeah. I'm not sure what the problem is with it, other than being an SJ4000 for £60 off eBay. Colour balance is all wrong, and that's coming through post processing in windows movie maker as the raw footage isn't that bad, then YouTube do loss of compressive things to the videos for uploading. I'll have to play with the settings more I think.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  9. Stickman
    Member

    Turning right from Roseburn Street towards Wester Coates this morning. The car behind me got completely flustered by the presence of a bike in front and attempted to undertake me as I made my way round the corner. I gave a quizzical "what are you doing?" look and received a single finger and tooted horn in return.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  10. Slug
    Member

    @condor2378

    I use an SJ4000 and I've found setting it to 'cloudy' helps remove some of the blue tinge from it. I also have HDR set to on. I think your biggest problem is Windows Movie Maker though... it seems to slaughter any decent video. I use a program called Movavi which is much better. It costs £30 and you can download an evaluation copy, but it leaves a watermark.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  11. A valiant attempt to rearrange one's car under an oncoming truck.

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    Posted 9 years ago #
  12. condor2378
    Member

    @Slug

    Thanks, I'll try this.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  13. Arellcat
    Moderator

    I really, really, really hope CEC can improve the Gilmore Place junction.

    I'm waiting to turn right out of Gilmore Place; I'm at the front of the queue (well, until another cyclist shoals), and there are two cyclists waiting in the ASL on Tarvit St, and a queue of cars behind them. I ready myself to sprint across the junction.

    The green light to turn right comes on. Oh dear! Cars are still turning right out of Home Street, the chancers. Once they've passed I exit my ASL and stop just before the yellow box markings. The cyclists gingerly make their way across the junction, followed by the cars. I count three cars after my light turns back to red, and I'm now in the way of traffic from Leven Street. I sprint like crazy to get out of the way.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    One thing that would help is shutting Tarvit Street (apart from bikes!)

    Don't know if CEC is going to be brave enough to do that as part of the Meadows to Canal plan.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  15. davidsonsdave
    Member

    Big chap driving little silver Vauxhall(?) TR07 JAY through the red light of the pedestrian crossing on Fountainbridge yesterday evening who gave me a little salute as I waited to exit Gilmore Park.

    By jove sir, I salute you and your desire to endanger other people so that you can arrive at stationary traffic a few seconds earlier. Jolly good show, old bean!

    Posted 9 years ago #
  16. kaputnik
    Moderator

    This woman;

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/woman-gets-behind-wheel-minutes-after-driving-ban-1-3716905

    A MOTORIST got into her car and drove away from court – minutes after being slapped with a one-year ban for drink-driving.

    Carina Russell, 25, walked from Livingston Sheriff Court to her black Audi parked across from a police station and unlocked the door.

    The reversing lights flashed as she turned on the ignition, but when she spotted members of the public watching her, she closed the car door and walked away from the vehicle.

    But moments later she was caught on CCTV as she ran back to the car, got into the driving seat and reversed out of the parking space before 
driving off.

    Concerned onlookers informed the police, who are investigating the incident.

    When no doesn't mean no...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  17. mgj
    Member

    @arellcat, the Gilmore Place junction lights are not synchronised. They go red from Gilmore Place before Tarvit Street, by about three cars. Mad, but true. See also Ardmillan.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  18. wingpig
    Member

    @mgj We complained about/reported that sometime last year, after which it seemed to be temporarily fixed. Perhaps they don't have proper versioning on their traffic-light programming and it's been overwritten...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    CLASSIC photo here -

    Edinburgh 'before' traffic lights.

    Man minding traffic, primary cyclists, trams, nervous pedestrians -

    http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/1_edin_t/1_edinburgh_transport_trams_foot_of_the_mound_rb_parr.htm

    Posted 9 years ago #
  20. kaputnik
    Moderator

    They go red from Gilmore Place before Tarvit Street, by about three cars. Mad, but true. S

    Yes I raised that on Fixmystreet with the council. I don't go that way anymore so cannot comment how it operates (its almost impossible to precisely time the cycles without 2 peoples)

    Posted 9 years ago #
  21. SRD
    Moderator

    anyone know what happened to get the M&J fish van on the wrong side of Gilmore Place right at the junction with Home/Leven? I arrived just before the bunch of squaddies and one cyclist pushed him back and up onto the pavement. cannot figure out how he could have got there in the first place though.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  22. Min
    Member

    I don't know but I had to complain to them a while back after a driver deliberately/negligently tried to reverse his van into me in Valleyfield Street. I had stopped to let him manouvre and he just slammed his foot down in reverse. I was very lucky to be able to scramble away. If that is the way they drive normally it is not too surprising.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  23. neddie
    Member

    @min

    It is illegal to reverse down a one-way street as well.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  24. CJC
    Member

    Two mad drivers this morning.

    The first a yellow "Scott Coppola" van who tailgated me then overtook at a set of red pedestrian lights. A classic case of must-get-past-at-all-costs. I had filtered past him in the queue within 10 seconds of him starting his overtake. To be fair to him, he gave me loads of space, it was just completely pointless.

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    The second a red golf who attempted to overtake me on the corner as I turned in to the top of Broughton Street. My shout of "wait" resulting in him pulling back a bit before he tailgated me the entire way down the hill, revving a lot. At the roundabout at the bottom he shouted something that sounded like an expletive as I went the other way.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  25. kaputnik
    Moderator

    It is illegal to reverse down a one-way street as well.

    Our street is one way, but "handily" leads between Marionville Road and London Road. The one way prevents it being used as a shortcut between the former and the latter, with traffic routed up to the signalled junction at the Holyrood Church.

    Anyway, most mornings as I have my coffee and gaze out the window at the long line of single-occupant vehicles going nowhere fast into town, there's usually at least 1 chancer whose come down the road the wrong way to nip onto London Road. I've even had to get out the way of 1 woman who came from the next street up and was very angry I was "in her way" as I cycled the right way up the street.

    We might start taking down registrations.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  26. Min
    Member

    It is illegal to reverse down a one-way street as well.

    Yes, I was expecting him to reverse out of his parking spot and then drive away in a forwardly direction. I guess by stopping to let him do that I was in his way.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  27. dougal
    Member

    Black SUV on Haddington Place that was straddling the white line and tried a "there isn't room to overtake so I'll just let my weight frighten you off the road while I gently drift sideways" manoeuvre.

    I pulled alongside at the red lights to ask if that was the safest overtake she could think of. Her response was a blast of the horn.

    When the lights changed and she overtook again I got an earful of abuse(?) that I couldn't hear because the driver was also leaning on the horn at the same time.

    It's like some people go out of their way to meet the stereotypes.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  28. (First)bus driver this morning who was caught behind (the usual) snarl up of busses outside the NB/ Waverley Market.

    As they were stationary, I decided to overtake. As I started to come alongside, the twonk started to pull out, albeit slowly, forcing me into the lane of oncoming traffic. As I got alongside the can, I shouted "LOOK!" at him. All the time of his attempt at a slow overtake, he was staring at a wee space in the bus stop he wanted to reach. Never once checked his mirrors, so did not see me at all! I did get a sort of startled apology from him, but jeezo, manoeuvring a big blooming bus without looking where its going!

    Posted 9 years ago #
  29. richardlmpearson
    Member

    Asda lorry driver almost attempting to go under low bridge south west of Newbridge.

    Luckily he stopped, but he was blocking the road.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  30. richardlmpearson
    Member

    White van driver (with no nearside mirror) passes me on the blind bend on the potholled road between Kirkliston and Newbridge.

    Then along the A8 makes a dliberate close pass and sweves all the way to the kerb.

    I think I have the 2nd incident on video, so one I get a chance to look at it, a report will be going into the police.

    Posted 9 years ago #

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