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  • Started 13 years ago by Stepdoh
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  1. I've seen stencils/stickers on the side of a car once which had just that kind of thing, with outlines of cyclists, old people, children, and some various animals. Hurrah, let's celebrate hitting things with our cars!

    Posted 9 years ago #
  2. Two years ago today (where does the time go?). The police even came and interviewed me about this one, but then.... Nowt....

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    Posted 9 years ago #
  3. Roibeard
    Member

    @WC - Despite Magnatom's (limited) success, I've given up on the police, only bothering to report liveried vehicles to their company or taxis to the licensing authority.

    Edinburgh's approach seems to be different to Glasgow, in that I've been clearly told that unless there is an injury, the Procurator Fiscal isn't interested - as is substantiated by your experience.

    Robert

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. Roibeard, aye, that's my route now. Have reported two drivers to the police, and both times was entirely underwhelmed. Definitely had better responses from businesses who are clearly looking to protect their brand.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  5. wishicouldgofaster
    Member

    From my recent experience I don't think the police are bothered about road safety for cyclists and will be writing a letter of complaint as to why no charges are being brought against the driver who knocked me down.

    I was on a main road cycling in perfect visibility, wearing high viz and in full view of the driver for 30-45 secs. Yet the driver concerned takes a right when I am about 2-3 yards away.

    You would think this is a clear cut careless driving at least but no because he was sorry and gave a reason that he just didn't see me (FFS!) its somehow OK. Plenty of evidence and witnesses too but it seems to me the cops couldn't be bothered with the extra paperwork :(

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. gibbo
    Member

    I haven't posted on this thread for a couple of months, but I thought it was worth mentioning the driver on Corbiehill Cres this morning who pulled over to the righ kerb as if to park, then swung across the road in order to go into her driveway.

    Didn't bother checkhing her mirrors (where she would have seen me.)

    I managed to swerve and brake just before the left kerb, so no damage done.

    I turned to her (she was still in her car) and asked her, "What was that?". (In a fairly calm manner.)

    She looked away and shrugged. Then sat in her car, acting like I wasn't there.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  7. gibbo
    Member

    @wishicouldgofaster

    "From my recent experience I don't think the police are bothered about road safety for cyclists"

    I got clipped by a car a few months ago (stayed upright, fortunately), reported it, never heard anything again.

    What happened to you was obviously so much worse... and there were witnesses.

    To them to not act on this is an utter disgrace.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  8. davidsonsdave
    Member

    Had a run in with a lady in a white Audi (TT?) on my way home yesterday evening. She was the second of two cars travelling along Murieston Place as I was on Murieston Cres. All of us were heading towards Russell Road. The first car came out of the junction well ahead of me but she followed the first car blindly without even looking to check that it was clear.

    I have had a few such incidents here so I am always wary. I could see we would reach the junction at the same time from way back and had been watching her closely so was already braking before she pulled out as I could see that she was paying no attention whatsoever.

    She stopped on Sauchiebank to apologise when she saw that I was following her to chat to her about it. She claimed not to have seen me but I pointed out that she didn't even look.

    I'm not looking forward to Russell Road opening up again.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

  10. Why have they arrested the man when it was the car that hit the pedestrian and shop? (I see EEN has reverted back to type).

    Posted 9 years ago #
  11. neddie
    Member

    A 20-year-old man was taken to the ERI with head injuries

    Why wasn't he wearing a helmet?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  12. wingpig
    Member

    Rubbish driving of a quad bike to and fro across Five Ways by some children this evening. Also, the police didn't know what Five Ways was.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  13. dougal
    Member

    The private hire taxi that was sitting in front of the entrance to Waverley Gate car park at the back entrance to the train station. Parking in front of a dropped kerb is bad enough; parking in front of one that is in constant use during rush hour is the next step; sitting in the vehicle on your phone, oblivious to the world, while another van mounts the pavement and drives into the car park at an angle - is today's rubbish driving.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  14. Stickman
    Member

    Rubbish close pass from a taxi this evening. It didn't make it any better that the cab was completely covered in Edinburgh Bike Co-op advertising.

    Are EBC happy to know that they are putting money in the pockets of people who don't care about people on bikes?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  15. nevelbell
    Member

    The traffic lights at Crew Road South and Carrington Road were out this morning and there's nothing like non-operational traffic lights to send drivers into a spiral of stupidity. As I approached coming down Craigleith Hill Ave to head straight over to Carrington Road, I stopped at the junction and slowly moved out into the road only to notice a car pull up beside me heading in the same direction. As I tentatively moved across the junction, her intention was to overtake me on the junction. When I crossed, I pulled up on the other side just so she would get passed and I wouldn't endanger my life by being in the vicinity of this fool.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  16. davey2wheels
    Member

    Jaguar XKR, G2 DKM, who simply had to overtake the car in front of him heading east along Stenhouse Drive toward Saughton Mains Street. After pulling directly out into oncoming traffic and then sharply in at the front of the car, the driver then stopped to argue his stupid driving. The car definitely compensating here.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  17. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Two car drivers seen exiting the cycle lane on George Street to turn left into Frederick Street.

    Since I was trying to turn left into that cycle lane from the Pitt statue roundabout I shouted at the second driver as she passed, since her window was open.

    'That's a cycle lane, you know!'
    'It's a car lane too! There's the car symbol on the sign!', making a 'big round sign' circular gesture with her finger.

    Then she drove off, convinced that her interpretation of Signs Giving Orders, diagram 619, was correct, rather than admit that she was a complete chancer and knew she'd get away with it if she just followed someone else.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

  19. Stickman
    Member

    Police car stopped in ASL on Morrison Street. Just proves how pointless they are if even the police ignore them.

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    Posted 9 years ago #
  20. mgj
    Member

    Forrest Road this morning; driver seemed to bump into cyclist overtaking bus (I was at the bus stop so heard rather than saw). He was at least concerned about the guy he had hit, but his passenger was out shouting about how he had 'appeared from nowhere' and that 'they had it all on camera' as if that made it alright.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  21. davidsonsdave
    Member

    Taking Mrs DD's old bike to the Bike Station for recycling at lunch today I was stopped in the ASZ on Summerhall Pl at the junction with West Preston Street with a white van behind me.

    When the lights change I pull away faster than the van and keep a safe distance out from all the parked cars on the left to avoid the door zone. There is no gaps in the parked vehicles and there is oncoming traffic but I become aware that the white van is now sitting in a half-overtaking position about 1m off my back wheel just as the road narrows even more due vans parked on both sides.

    I give a "move back" gesture but the WVM decides that it is acceptable to move even closer to me. I don't even want to think about how close he was to me or the consequences if he had clipped me but he was there for 50m before there was eventually space on my left, just before the junction with Salisbury Place, where I am able to pull into the kerb and stop to allow the gesturing [insert your own personal insult here] past.

    The white van was livered with the company name which was something like SM Painting (or Printing?) and I think that the first part of the reg was SG54 but I was so shaken by the incident that it took me the whole walk back to work to feel normal again.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  22. fimm
    Member

    On the big bike, going to Livingston. Impatient person overtakes me as I'm overtaking parked cars. This is on a nice downhill stretch, so I give it some power and sit nicely occupying the rear view mirror all the way down the hill.

    There are speed cushions near the bottom of the hill which cars have to slow for but cyclists don't - so I am held up by the car. I was so tempted to overtake (the driver did slow down more than some do) but then I would have had to report myself on the Rubbish Cycling thread so I didn't.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  23. fimm
    Member

    Coming back from Livingston (via West Calder, as you do) I gave myself a nasty fright at the Gillespie crossroads.
    As I was coming up to the lights they went green, so I accelerated to get through them. (In retrospect, I should not have done this.)

    They went amber quite quickly - more quickly than I expected. I jammed on my brakes and stopped. I was then overtaken at speed by a motorbike. If that had been a car, expecting me to go through the amber, I would now be in hospital or possibly dead.

    Would a car driver have been able to stop, while the motorcyclist could not? (They were obviously accelerating to get through the green too...)

    Posted 9 years ago #
  24. twq
    Member

    Prize muppet in little pink Daihatsu SL53 AZZ this morning in the Meadows. Slow moving traffic going into town, he decided to overtake a driver who had the audacity to leave one car-length in front of his car. Right into a queue of stopped traffic.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  25. paolobr
    Member

    Multiple bad passes into oncoming traffic on the coastal road back from Aberlady yesterday evening.

    It amazes me (not) that so many drivers decide that if the driver in front of them is making a manouevre then it's perfectly OK for them to follow, thus compounding the offence.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  26. ARobComp
    Member

    Coming down towards haymarket terrace and approaching the traffic lights at haymarket yards. I'd been overtaken by a bus 30 seconds earlier that then got stuck behind a right turning car at the lights. Rather than wait a moment, I saw the wheels turning and he was about to pull into the inside lane to go around without looking. I shouted and he stopped.

    "Don't go down the inside of buses" Even if they overtake you and make mental manoeuvres? That sticker really kept me safe.

    Unfortunately a plain hire bus so not sure who to contact.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  27. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Unfortunately a plain hire bus so not sure who to contact.

    Was it a plain red single decker? If so, Abellio seem to have shipped in a load of Abellio London Transport buses for the Winchburgh Tunnel rail replacement services, and I have to say I've not been impressed with the ability or courtesy of their drivers on the odd occassions I've been anywhere near oine.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  28. twq
    Member

    Gunning along Melville Drive this morning, I had a car turn right across me when I was approaching. It wasn't too bad by itself, but the guy behind tried to follow me. Queue much braking and foul language from me - thankfully he spotted me before swinging across.
    Second time that has happened to me this month. Last time it was a bus turning right (ok manoeuvre) with silly driver following without looking.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  29. ARobComp
    Member

    @kaputnik Nope a big high level white coach. Have spotted it around the same time before so need to keep an eye out for it again.
    Driver a moustached balding chap.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  30. jdanielp
    Member

    There was a bit of a jam outside the King's Theatre this morning as the traffic going into town from Leven Street became backed up over the entire junction as the lights changed. A car was left stranded as the driver waited to turn right from Home Street onto Gilmore Place and the traffic queuing on Gilmore Place was unable to even get onto the junction. Given the lack of movement, I took advantage of the bicycle-sized gaps to thread my way cautiously, but smugly, across and onto Gilmore Place.

    Posted 9 years ago #

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