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  1. mgj
    Member

    well... as we know, there are restrictions on parking spaces that are enforced by 'the blue meanies' as the EEN has it, but no restrictions enforced on double parkers, so the law of unintended consequences applies. Personally I'd like to see any double parked car taken away for crushing, with occupant if they have dared to put their hazards on.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. Darkerside
    Member

    The camera didn't capture this, so I'm going to grumble here instead.

    Sat in the middle of a crossroads waiting to turn right. Light for oncoming traffic turns red, and the leading car slows to stop. I start turning right.

    Driver behind the stopping car overtakes and turns left infront/through me, massively running the red light and only not hitting me because I stopped pretty sharpish.

    She then got caught in the queue 100m further on, and when I passed she was texting on her phone.

    The temptation to swing a dlock through her window was almost irresistible.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. fimm
    Member

    Horrible, horrible close pass this morning. One that had me yelling and shaking my fist at the departing vehicle.
    I wish I had a camera; I could have also recorded a tailgating private hire driver and another driver demonstrating how it should be done (sit well back and pass wide).

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. amir
    Member

    I came in the direct way this morning to save energy for the Erit Lass. I ended up feeling reet mardy due to the frequent bad driving. Of many motorists were good, but there were sufficient close passes, roaring past to turn off etc that it really upset my karma.

    A particular note to Belhaven Brewery - your lorry driver should not have overtaken me just before a roundabout putting me in the dangerzone to the side. I am now undertaking an unwilling boycott for a month or so.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. amir
    Member

    "I wish I had a camera;"

    I still have no wish to have a camera. I think it would up my stress levels further by focussing in on the dangerous element of cycling.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    "I am now undertaking an unwilling boycott for a month or so."

    Will you be telling them - and why?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. amir
    Member

    "Will you be telling them - and why? "

    I would have if I'd found a Twitter account early this morning but now I should really get on with work :) . Why? Because I think lorry drivers should have excellent standards of driving, which in my opinion means giving lots of space to cyclists and other vulnerable road users.

    Plus there is the point that companies should realise the fact that bad driving of vehicles with advertising plastered over them is negative advertising.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. acsimpson
    Member

    I emailed TNT earlier this week about one of their drivers who cut me up on Maybury road. Their Lutons often blast up there in convoy fashion so when the first truck past me a little late but with space to pull in I started indicating right to ensure the second truck would know there was no space to overtake as I would be in the middle of the lane by the traffic island. Needless to say the driver thought otherwise and bullied me into having to slow down or risk impact.

    To be fair to the company the depot manager came straight back to me to say he would be having a chat with the driver at the start of their next shift.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    @ amir

    Couldn't find a Twitter a/c for Belhaven either

    "

    @CyclingEdin: @greeneking are you interested in the skills of your drivers?

    http://t.co/BZUfO9I9ye

    And the PR consequences?

    http://t.co/sUfFvcducI

    "

    "

    @greenekingcares: @CyclingEdin Morning. Thanks for getting in touch and for raising this. We have forwarded this on to make the team aware.

    "

    "

    @CyclingEdin: @greenekingcares thank you for speedy response

    People on CCE want 'cyclist awareness training' rather than 'punishment for poor driving'

    "

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. amir
    Member

    Great work chdot. Ta

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. Stickman
    Member

    The worst driving I've seen in a long time today.

    I was driving down Drumbrae North, keeping within the speed limit. A silver open-top Merc overtook the car behind and me in one manoeuvre, doing I would guess at least 50. He struggled to stop for the red light at the pedestrian crossing, then zoomed off again to join the queue of traffic at the junction with Queesnsferry Road. I reached the junction a few seconds behind him, so his speeding was completely pointless.

    Utterly irresponsible and dangerous.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. acsimpson
    Member

    It's a shame you didn't have time to wash your windows as he approached.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. wingpig
    Member

    Going up Elm Row on Sunday I observed a cyclist in front of the bus I was on not being given very much space, considering the gradient and surface. A bus driver heading up Leith Walk this morning looked like he was seriously considering butting in front of me in the cycle lane to get to a stop not even fractionally earlier. Had Lothian Buses' drivers' standards not been slipping so markedly I probably wouldn't bother to report them, but they're almost back to 2002 levels at the moment.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. Min
    Member

    Large BOC* wagon sailing through one of the Minto Street junctions, drivers eyes firmly clamped to his mobile phone.

    *That means it is carrying a cargo of compressed gas bombs cylinders.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. That sounds like one worth reporting to the company Min?

    Last night through the 20mph Holyrood Park I was passed by seven cars, all as I did 20. Finally getting round to a planned video next week. Going to use that section every day - camera has GPS and will show speed on screen I think. Might even loop round the roundabouts at both ends on a couple of days, and just stitch together all of the videos showing me being passed (I particularly like the ones who overtake as I'm going over the big 20 painted on the road) - with the title being, of course, 'Cyclists think the rules of the road don't apply to them'.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. newtoit
    Member

    This morning I was on the bus queuing on Liberton Road outside the Mccarthy & Stone flats. A guy on a black road bike, with lots of hi-vis, was almost wiped out not once but twice thanks to the driver of a black Clio. Cyclist was going up the inside and was alongside Clio in slow moving traffic when the driver of the Clio seemingly flashed for a driver in the opposite direction to turn across into Gordon Terrace. Cyclist had to stop to avoid the right hook.

    Then to compound things, the Clio started moving again and the driver started indicating left and turned into Gordon Terrace him(/her)self, with said cyclist having to take evasive action again.

    Driver was obviously totally oblivious to cyclist's presence, despite him being fully clad in hi-vis and with lights...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. Just witnessed a guy who presumably has a very tiny appendage gunning his dark blue Lamborghini down King's Stables Rd - must have hit at least 70 in doing so.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. minus six
    Member

    Over three weeks since my initial reporting of dangerous driving, three counts thereof, backed up by third party witnesses willingly supplying statement that they saw me "almost killed" and "horrified" enough to take photo of driver's vehicle, with clear view of reg number.

    No crime number given by Police Scotland subsequent to my detailed statement, despite asking multiple times. No one has contacted me to progress the matter.

    I never expected Police Scotland to take the matter seriously.

    Crime numbers are for insurance companies paperwork.

    Police Scotland do not take the safety of vulnerable road users seriously, even when third party witnesses emerge.

    Corroboration under Scots law?

    Don't make me laugh.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. wingpig
    Member

    @Wilmington That might have been what I saw whirring loudly along Canning St. It was definitely blue and rollerskatey but unidentifiable beyond that.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. Altogether possible, I think I heard him doing laps and heading back down Castle Terrace a couple of times.

    Thing is the police (who I tweeted - as if they'd send someone out if I called) could do a quick check on their computers for dark blue Lambos in the city, and even without the model (I think it was an Aventador) they'd probably only have three doors at most to knock on and remind people that, yes, it's fun to drive these cars to their potential, but to save it for Knockhill.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. twq
    Member

    Silly rat-running BMW driver (T90 BES) tried to overtake on Melville Terrace, at a pinch point, with an oncoming car, while I was doing the 20mph limit. Maybe he was late for dropping his daughter off to school, but no excuse for being a numpty.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. I engaged tunnel vision this morning.

    Riding in a bus lane, black Corsa to my left starts edging in with me alongside his bonnet. No indicators etc. Stubborness takes over, and I hold almost primary, keeping my same pace, which happens to be the same as the traffic moving in the other lane. He edges, and edges, but because of the traffic can't blip ahead, still no indicator. Eventually gives in and actually slows down like he should, and tucks in behind (still no indicator), whereupon he sits right on my back wheel.

    I'm turning left ahead, glance back and he's going straight on - name of a company on the side of the door, but I don't catch it.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. geordiefatbloke
    Member

    Nearly sideswiped by an Audi on Gorgie road just past Tynecastle heading towards Henderson Terrace. Car in front of Audi slows to a stop as it's turning right onto a side street, I slow a bit as I expect the Audi to undertake into the bus lane to get passed, it doesn't, so I carry on in the bus lane, Audi driver then decides that they will undertake after all (no indicating of course) just as I am passing. A slow motion but very close miss. (As the cyclist behind me acknowledged, "that was close!"). To be fair, they apologised straight away when I caught up at the lights, for which I thanked him.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. Given stereotypes of cars and their drivers, I wouldn't have expected the driver of a Nissan Note to be an unmitigated bully.

    Passing me in a 20 while I was doing 20 with a red light 40 yards ahead was pretty much par for the course. One other car in front, which I filtered in front of. Next bit is downhill, and the front driver is driving at 20! Wahey!

    Passes me when the road turns uphill, and the note is a yard, maybe a yard and a half off his boot. Also one of these people that, despite the leftmost 'cushion' being clear, will drive over the one in the middle of the road, despite there being traffic coming the other way and parked cars on their side.

    I actually went past them both again at a road narrowing that has a bike cut through, and the Note was still right up the boot of the car in front when they went by again. I suspect the camera won't really get over how close he was...

    Another pass last night as well in Holyrood Park as I did 20 in the 20. Again with oncoming traffic, that had to brake and move over. Even more pointless as there was a slower cyclist 20 yards on that he got 'stuck' behind, and then a big queue of traffic at a red that I filtered past. Didn't see him again.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. wingpig
    Member

    Another Lothian Bus driver confusing "18T advantage" with "nothing is in the way" when moving towards the Elm Row southbound stop.

    Driver of some sort of estate car confusing the nearside tram rail on York Place with the white line denoting the edge of the road in order to get to the back of the queue at the North St David St junction.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. wingpig
    Member

    "On this occasion the CCTV footage is unavailable for us to view", said Lothian Buses, of the complaint relating to their attempt to intimidate a cyclist on Princes Street a week or two back. They are also "unfortunately unable to view" the YouTube clip I sent them a link to. They also claim awareness of only two other complaints from me in their pipes, when there are in fact four others, with a fifth to be raised this evening if I can find the date/time/vehicle amongst my Virb clips.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. fimm
    Member

    Driver sounding his horn at us on Ravelston Dykes last night. Whether this was for the heinous crime of being four cyclists on the road at 10pm at night, or some other thing, I know not.

    Lothian Bus driver rolling into the ASL at Haymarket from Dalry Road yesterday evening. I really should have spoken to him or made a note of the number plate and complained to LB.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. acsimpson
    Member

    @winpig

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    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

  30. dougal
    Member

    I think there's a few people out there who stayed up to watch the moon and are now commuting on even less sleep than normal. One driver cut right across me on the London Road roundabout while he was indicating to move in the opposite direction.

    Posted 8 years ago #

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