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  1. Greenroofer
    Member

    Mrs Greenroofer recounted her experiences of collecting children from Deanbank infants' school (Canaan Lane) at lunchtime in foul weather. A considerable number of parents thought it best to drive to the school (where there is no parking and no waiting and a one-way single track road) rather than risk their own children dissolving. As is the way with the kind of people who do this, they had no concern for the chaos they caused on Canaan Lane or the impact on the vast majority of parents who were collecting their children on foot or by bike. A particularly thoughtful mother in a 4x4 drove through the floods in Canaan Lane at considerable speed, drenching everyone on the pavement, only (of course) to be stuck for some time by the Canny Man waiting to turn onto Morningside Road.

    I do get irrationally grumpy about how selfish some people are. The thing is, you can be selfish on a bike or on foot but it's unlikely to affect more than one or two other people. If you're selfish in a car, it can cause chaos for scores of people.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  2. Rob
    Member

    Clip from the other day:

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    Not really sure what he was hoping for as there was traffic ahead of me. He appears to lean over to the window after dropping back, maybe to shout something which went unheard.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  3. chdot
    Admin

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    A teenager caused a fatal car crash in which a woman died just 11 days after he passed his driving test.

    "

    http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/local/fife/teenager-avoids-custodial-sentence-over-fatal-fife-crash-1.910369

    Posted 9 years ago #

  4. unhurt
    Member

    May or may not have been bad driving, but there was some sort of collision on Slateford Road near the railway bridge about 12:30 today - police, paramedics, and another ambulance on the way as we passed... Hopefully a precaution and no-one seriously hurt.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  5. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    LMFTFY I do get irrationally grumpy about how selfish some people are.

    Loads of drivers are just thick.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  6. gembo
    Member

    I saw a guy I recognise as a little bit wild cycling towards Haymarket the other day gesticulating with a horizontal sweep of his right arm at a large Range Rover that had decided to turn right from a side street by rolling out fully onto the east bound lanes and waiting for a space. Thus impeding the cyclist.

    Curiously a couple of minutes earlier the same fellow on the bike had come up behind me at that bad junction at saughton mains. / ellersley road. I was waiting in the queue for the lights to change and then the traffic to disperse so that a right tUrn could be taken. He cycled over the lane to my right just before the southbound traffic arrived, up onto the pavement dodging pedestrians, over the crossing which was at red and then waited there until I let him into the eastbound lane in front of me. He then sailed through all lights (which were red Amber ) until being impeded by the Range Rover.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  7. SRD
    Moderator

    ...comes to you courtesy of the driver of Lothian buses #185 heading south past the King's theatre. Traffic was totally backed up coming out of Gilmore Place because of a Lothian bus stopped at an angle and blocking all traffic from accessing the intersection. I eventually got to the junction on the ped green. I walked my bike across and remounted when I was clear of the crossing. Just as I got to the Valleyfield turn off, I was startled out of my wits by driver leaning on his horn.

    Was I not going fast enough? did he (mistakenly) think my manoeuvre was illegal?

    He was within 10 metres of a stop, which he was indicating to pull into. I thought Lothian drivers were given instructions on not harassing cyclists as they pulled into stops?

    Posted 9 years ago #

  8. wingpig
    Member

    I think the pushy/revvy twerp itching to get past me as I waited to turn right into the Canongate from St Mary's Street was the same pushy/revvy twerp itching to get past me along Abbey Road and up Abbey Lane, despite there being nowhere to go to. It got to the point where I took a hand off my bars (despite the poor surface and speedbumps on Abbey Road) to offer the universal gestures for YOU and BACK OFF. Camera pointedly detached and pointed at their number plate before I filtered to the front of the queue to turn onto London Road.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  9. wishicouldgofaster
    Member

    Annoyed I didn't get the number of the car that went through a red at Flora Stevenson school this morning. The lolipop man was rather cross - thankfully the children had not started crossing.

    This guy was only 1/4 numpties this morning - in a 25 mins commute (half on the cycle path), 2 red light jumpers, 1 failure to give way in a IDGAF manouvre and another MGIF giving me approx 1 foot of space, just to park about 300 yds later.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  10. unhurt
    Member

    Passed very close coming up Holyrood Park Road yesterday (enough to cause swearing). Lady was then stopped at the lights so I gestured to wind down her window and (politely) pointed out she'd given me a real fright. To her credit she was very apologetic, for which I thanked her - but clearly she just hadn't registered me as a cyclist at all despite broad daylight, a rear light on flashy setting and a light green jacket...

    Posted 9 years ago #

  11. dougal
    Member

    From a colleague during last night's rains - paraphrased. He was in primary in a long stream of traffic, coming up to temporary lights. Someone behind tries squeezing past and overtakes just as the lights change to red. The overtaker had to pull an emergency stop and evasive turn to avoid hitting the vehicle in front, ending up screeching to a halt side-on to the rest of traffic.

    From a different colleague - speeders in Holyrood Park ignoring the priority of pedestrians on the zebra crossing.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  12. wingpig
    Member

    I was mudguarded by a car along Grange Road last night. There's something about the noise of some types of tyre in the wet which makes them sound particularly close, desperate and tearing.

    On the way up Leith Walk this morning I had barely finished internally remarking upon how long it had been since my last Lothian Buses complaint when another pulled the usual Elm Row lane-barge. Also one today being really stupid and conspiring with a lorry parked near a bus stop to block York Place, then mudguarding me after I'd sneaked through and headed onwards.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  13. chdot
    Admin

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    @DrCarolineBrown: thanks to the driver who gave me 2 fingers & F off this morning when I explained the rd was closed to CARS o/s @SciennesPS #schoolstreets

    "

    Posted 9 years ago #

  14. neddie
    Member

    What is 'mudguarding'?

    Posted 9 years ago #

  15. dougal
    Member

    Is mudguard like blackguard?

    Posted 9 years ago #

  16. biketrain
    Member

    According to the CCE Glossary:-

    'Mudguard' - to follow too closely someone who is not in a bicycle race or on a group ride and who has neither requested to be nor explicitly welcomed being so closely followed.

    Linkee

    Posted 9 years ago #

  17. The Boy
    Member

    Had an almost piece of good driving yesterday evening riding along Russell Rd from Murrayfield towards Roseburn path. Rider in front of me, car behind. Car kept it's distance all the way along and, when it passed the driver left me and the rider in front more than enough room to pass safely.

    Unfortunately they did so on the approach to blind bend as both cyclist in front and I were signalling left to leave the carriageway and join the Roseburn path.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  18. The Boy
    Member

    ooooh. My first double post on these boards, I think.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  19. neddie
    Member

    At the top of Leamington Tce at the junction with Bruntsfield Pl there is an awkward manoeuvre to make to get to the ped crossing to the Links - involving a dog leg across Leamington Tce.

    As I was cresting L. Tce, approaching the junction, a man in his 20/30s was manoeuvring his flash, expensive BMW from its "parking spot" on the double yellows, right on the corner. His headlight was dazzling me as he was on the wrong side of the road. I had no idea if he had seen me, so this made me nervous.

    Then as I went to cross L. Tce, starting from primary, another car (Volvo C40 older model) came up very close behind and missed me by about a foot. When I looked round, she was talking on her handheld mobile and had no headlights on (it was dark). I wonder if she had seen me at all.

    This made me extremely angry - that someone could nonchalantly endanger another's life in such a way. I did not react (except internally).

    Posted 9 years ago #

  20. unhurt
    Member

    George IV Bridge heading north to traffic lights this evening - taxi cut across from southbound lane in front of me (luckily I anticipated) then pulled up further ahead facing north - and promptly almost doored me jumping out as soon as he stopped. Patronising & insincere "sorry loves" after I suggested he LOOK before (1) pulling across traffic and (2) opening his door into a bike lane, and then as I pushed off to get past he patted. me. on. the. back. Rarrrrrrrrrr.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  21. sallyhinch
    Member

    Oh that's the cherry on the cake. I'd have wanted to kill him

    Posted 9 years ago #

  22. unhurt
    Member

    Still seeing slightly red now!

    Posted 9 years ago #

  23. chdot
    Admin

    "Still seeing slightly red now!"

    Understandable!

    Presume getting his number was last thing on your mind.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  24. unhurt
    Member

    Yep - was at the bottom of the Mound before it occurred to me!

    Posted 9 years ago #

  25. davidsonsdave
    Member

    Driver of Silver Polo ST56 OMF who, after turning right into Chambers Street from Forrest Road/George IV Bridge, went straight over the zebra where there was a pedestrian already crossing. Driver was eating her breakfast in the car when I caught up with her at the red light. She was late for work so it's ok for her to drive without due care.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  26. wingpig
    Member

    Watch out for mini-snowplough SN15 EFT. Its driver is operating heavy machinery on the footway whilst wearing earbuds and is not above chasing pedestrians along the footway (in the opposite direction to that in which he was last spotted heading) when one has tried to take a photo of him wearing earbuds (also holding his MP3 player in his mouth), for the purposes of reporting him to maintain pedestrian safety. After driving past he then opened his door almost into my pedestrian face, then lumbered threateningly after me on foot.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  27. cc
    Member

    Sounds to me like the police need to separate him and the heavy machinery right away.

    I saw one during the last hard winter a few years ago. It was being driven up the heavily snow-covered pavement of Mayfield Road. It was going at full speed. Women were running screaming from its path. It was going so fast that it was leaping into the air, missing most of the snow completely. The driver seemed to think that his task was to get the snowpough to the top of the hill as quickly as possible then go home, rather than to actually clear any snow.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  28. chdot
    Admin

    http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/local/fife/man-jailed-after-crashing-while-driving-banned-for-third-time-1.911557

    Posted 9 years ago #

  29. chdot
    Admin

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    First offender Dulas, 33, of Lordburn Place in Forfar, overtook two cars while going into the blind bend and had no time to swerve out of the way.

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    http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/local/angus-the-mearns/catastrophic-mistake-sees-driver-jailed-for-head-on-collision-1.911571

    Posted 9 years ago #

  30. Rob
    Member

    The driver of a black Golf who cruised up behind me, waited for 19 seconds, used me as a mobile chicane between two traffic islands then turned right at a junction which I reached 14 seconds later.

    Posted 9 years ago #

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