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  1. wishicouldgofaster
    Member

    Arellcat I got caught in that traffic, but I was in the car.

    I thought I'd made a great decision in coming through town rather than the bypass (from ERI) until I was practically at Sainsbury's. Couldn't believe some of the idiotic driving with folk who were in the wrong lane refusing to yield.

    Took me about 20mins to get along Stevenson Rd :(

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. dougal
    Member

    Ridiculous number of enraging close passes on the way out of Linlithgow this morning. Came across two drivers stopped in the lane having a post-collision argument. The rear driver was saying "Sorry my brakes just stopped working".

    Aye mate, either your brakes just coincidentally stopped working or you and everyone else on this road was driving too close and too fast for the conditions. You useless muppet.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. Greenroofer
    Member

    Big black Audi with blacked-out rear windows turning onto Morningside Road at 0815 today with its windscreen completely frosted over apart from two tiny patches at the bottom where the demister was melting the ice. He (and it was a he) was driving with an opaque windscreen in rush hour traffic.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. wingpig
    Member

    Small red car's driver barged left into where I would have been had I not dodged heading up Leith Walk towards the Montgomery Street junction. They might have heard me shout as they stopped. Medium-sized white car's driver might not have heard me but should have got the general idea through close-range lip-reading when they pulled out into what they thought was a gap (having not looked) on the London Road roundabout.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. fimm
    Member

    Irritating driver of private hire taxi who was driving in the cycle lane on Gorgie in a queue of slow-moving, almost stationary traffic. Every other driver had positioned their car far enough out that a cyclist could use the cycle lane. I took an opportunity to go round the private hire taxi on the right, nipped left back into the cycle lane, and went on my way.

    Why do people do this? Dozyness, or an active desire to stop cyclists filtering?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    "

    A BIN lorry failed to stop after driving the wrong way down a one-way street and ploughing into a parked car, eyewitnesses have claimed.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/bin-lorry-failed-to-stop-after-hitting-parked-car-1-4002049

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

  8. Stickman
    Member

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-35323043

    Previous driving bans of course.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. dougal
    Member

    "I had no time to react. It was like a split second and it's changed my life."

    Do people think the rest of us are so naive as to actually believe these lines?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. fimm
    Member

    "Between 2009 and 2011 he was prosecuted twice for using a mobile phone while driving, and had convictions for speeding on a motorway, failing to display a road tax disc and failing to comply with a red traffic light."

    Had been banned once already. Kills someone while doing 50 in a 30. Gets banned for 10 years. Why not for life?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. wingpig
    Member

    I was beeped at on George Street by someone who doesn't realise that trucks are solid objects and was wittering on about cycle lanes out of her window instead of keeping a safe distance from the vehicle in front. Rudely, she turned off down North Castle Street when I was barely half-way through my explanation.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. wingpig
    Member

    Three buses waiting at or on the run-up to the first southbound stop on Leith Walk. Additional bus waiting behind the rearmost bus and protruding out almost to the central island, leaving a gap too small for a taxi and the A.THORBURN van, who had to wait in a line leading across the junction towards Constitution Street. I therefore had a lovely almost traffic-free trundle up Leith Walk, until the taxi and A.THORBURN caught up with me at the London Road roundabout.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. davidsonsdave
    Member

    Driver of a white VW Up SM13PWO yesterday evening who turned left from Murieston Pl onto Murieston Cres without checking whether it was clear. It wasn't.

    Driver of Gold Merc estate this morning who saw nothing wrong with overtaking me on Murieston Cres. She is right that she gave me plenty of room during the overtake but was certainly breaking the speed limit in a residential area with speed humps whilst approaching a blind corner where the road also narrows. All to get to the junction with Dalry Road a few seconds before me and sit there waiting to turn right. Well done.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Stupid overtake by a red Fiat 500 last night on Greenhill Gardens, I kept my speed up just enough so as to make sure they had to hit the speed bumps at an unnecessarily uncomfortable speed.

    A.THORBURN

    I've had trouble off them before. Sitting alongside me in such a way as to prevent exiting a bus lane to make a right turn, then rolling down the window and doling out abuse.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. Rosie
    Member

    Fountainbridge. I was coming out of Tesco. Car pulled by kerb, hazards switched on. Driver on pavement gave me the kind of smile which says "you know and I know that the car hasn't broken down. I've just stopped to use the ATM/buy something."

    If I'd been cycling that would have been a swerve and a pull out into the road at peak hour.

    I detest how cycling turns you into a mad legalist. Hey that's against the law. I'm for a little latitude when it comes to obeying laws - but that kind of dangerous street stealing makes me furious, along with drivers using mobile phones.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. Klaxon
    Member

    To the lady of the silver Vauxhall Zafira who overtook me over the opening of a junction on Brunswick Road, while I was handsignalling right to discourage exactly that behaviour because it's not the first time.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. Vez
    Member

    Just got my first "I PAY ROAD TAX" yelled at me. Do I get a badge?

    It was in response to my 'really?' shrug to the man in a silver Merc who passed me close on Brunswick Road just after the Tesco/Leith Walk junction before slamming on his brakes for the speed bump and turning left. Into what turns out to be called Dicksonfield, appropriately enough.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. fimm
    Member

    Edinburgh City Council bin lorry making an illegal right turn from Gorgie Road to Westfield Road about 10:45 this morning.
    Didn't think to get the registration, unfortunately.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. dougal
    Member

    @fimm You must have imagined that, the lorry drivers are all professionals with training and such. I think that's the story anyway?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. fimm
    Member

    Chap informing me that I was cycling the wrong way up a one way street when I was in fact cycling perfectly legally on a two-way road.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. wingpig
    Member

    Important driver going round the London Road roundabout from the right-hand lane out of Elm Row, starting from somewhat behind me (in the bus lane) as I'd been stopped and he was racing importantly, just barely remembering to stay in the right-hand-lanesworth of space around the roundabout (and having to slow down to be able to do so) then accelerating again as he straightened up to be able to importantly move abruptly leftward into the left-hand lane, whereupon he had to stop in the queue whilst I filtered up to the bit where the extra middle lane appears.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. geordiefatbloke
    Member

    @dougal That's right. Professionals. Training. Yes.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. PS
    Member

    LRT no 33 double decker came down Circus Place to the temporary traffic lights at the junction of Kerr Street/Hamilton Place/Stockbridge at c4pm on Saturday.

    The temporary traffic lights are really quite bright - the red LEDs were shining away as it approached the "When red light shows wait here" sign. There was even a workie in hi-viz standing next to the traffic lights to attract the attention.

    No matter: LRT 33 simply steams through without even a hint of slowing down. All workie can do is wave his arms and slap the red light on the traffic light.

    I'm still not sure how the bus didn't hit something coming the other way as that junction had been chocka all day.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. dougal
    Member

    Owner of oversize 4x4 has a go at parallel parking into a space too small and hits an (empty) bike rack. He abandons that and finds a double-yellow to park on instead.

    Bravo.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. SRD
    Moderator

    Dear Asda complaints,

    At 8.50 this morning, I was travelling to work in atrocious weather conditions - extremely high winds and heavy rain. I was stationary in traffic at a busy and difficult intersection (Gilmore Place at Home St/Leven St) in Edinburgh. I was appalled to see your delivery driver in Van registration YE63 RNZ negotiating the turn from Home St onto Gilmore Place (heading West), without his hands on the wheel. As far as I could see, he was attempting to fit the top back on a flask, and seemed to be handling the wheel with his elbow. I gestured (politely) to him that he should have his hands on the wheel, and he stopped, and rolled down his window to discuss. Luckily I was unable to hear anything he said, but in doing this, he managed to entirely block up this junction, and leave traffic marooned in the hashed area after the lights changed.

    I hope you share my concerns with the dangers of not being fully in control of a vehicle, especially at a busy junction at rush hour, which was filled with vehicles, and pavements crowded with pedestrians.

    I would appreciate you informing me of any actions taken as a result of this complaint.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. jdanielp
    Member

    The driver of the red hatchback which pulled out of the eastbound traffic queue on Lauriston Place to turn right onto Nightingale Way this morning despite the fact that I was already crossing the 'pedestrianised' junction so they cut the corner on the wrong side of the road and in doing so drove right at me and then passed so close that I was easily able to slap the side of the car. This lead to abrupt braking and angry shouting. I suspect that the dire weather saved me from a rather worse confrontation.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Sorry to hear that jdanielp. I think Copenhagen junctions are only going to work here if we can import Copenhagen drivers and police and deport many of the current incumbents of the roles...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. jdanielp
    Member

    @MB indeed. Thank you for your sympathies in any case! I was bemused when a photo of this junction was shown as a model of street design at a Living Streets meeting last year. Whilst the raised and differently textured surface makes a lot of sense to me with its implication that the pavement continues across the mouth of the junction, the sweeping corners appear to encourage drivers to approach it as if it is the apex of a racing circuit which rather defeats the intention that they should be giving way...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. Roibeard
    Member

    Having experienced rubbish driving from Danish drivers in the absence of infrastructure, and good driving in the presence of infrastructure, I'm guessing that infrastructure (segregation with priority at side streets) is necessary, although it may not be sufficient!

    <Edit to add>

    Of course, tight radiuses are required to reinforce the need to slow for the junction...

    </Edit>

    Time will tell...

    Robert

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    jdanielp & Roibeard,

    Absolutely, much too wide an entrance for a one-way street which quickly narrows to one car width.

    Posted 8 years ago #

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