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stickyPolice Scotland are truly pathetic.
I was once in some serious physical danger about fifty metres from where that was filmed. Police Scotland were present in force within minutes.
This may not have been enjoyable, but it wasn't dangerous and no one got hurt. I can't share the sentiment above, I'm afraid.
Agreed. The police certainly aren't perfect, but it's also easy to criticise without knowing the background to pressures and constraints and budgets etc etc that the police are stringently subject to.
Also, it might be that the PF decided that it wasn't worth taking anywhere, so the police actually decided to have a word so that at least something was done, in which case they may have actually gone beyond what was required.
All conjecture of course, unless we know every step the police did and didn't take, and where it was moved within the justice system.
I've had disappointments with the police, but also been very impressed with how professional a lot of them have acted despite clear (politically driven) issues they are having to face. And have had recent cause to call them about some seriously suspicious activity, which they responded to in a very quick and serious deterrent fashion.
My recent experience (a fortnight ago) with the police is they did a reasonable job under the circumstances.
A taxi Driver threatened to "F**k me up" I had no video or witness evidence. They did seem to believe my version, they wee sympathetic and not in the least surprised. They assured me the driver would be warned (as they didn't expect a confession) and that the Cab Inspector would be informed so it was on record.
All reasonable IMHO
I'm still waiting to hear about the colision I was involved in some months ago despite various emails. Maybe I should just call them to save the trouble.
Depends what you plan on calling them...
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Police as part of compliance process Inspector Brian Poole, Head of Tayside Divisional Roads Policing, Police Scotland
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I'm still waiting to hear about the colision I was involved in some months ago despite various emails. Maybe I should just call them to save the trouble.
You'll be waiting a long time unless you chase them up.
Called them before to no avail. Makes you feel pretty helpless and pretty worthless. Bring back L&B.
Edit - I'm already chasing them up that's the trouble.
It's the "broken window syndrome" on the roads.
Because "minor" infringements are completely ignored, the law is routinely ignored for larger and larger offences.
"Because "minor" infringements are completely ignored, the law is routinely ignored for larger and larger offences."
Absolutely spot-on. Also leads to the feeling that motoring offences are pretty much socially acceptable. Certainly things like speeding. It's just the norm, and admitting to being caught for that carries no stigma.
"Police Scotland are truly patheticly funded.
FTFY
With money being diverted to "vote winners" like tarmac, free prescriptions and the freeze council tax, there's only so much left to go round.
Improving road discipline (drivers and cyclists) is a sadly ignored area which will remain so unless there is greater political pressure to do something.
Last Wednesday morning, I was cycling towards town along Haymarket Terrace. I was in the inside lane which was, unusually, clear (no waiting taxis). I was in the middle of the lane, doing a steady speed slightly faster than the outside lane which was moving pretty slowly. Approaching Roseberry Crescent I was around halfway level with an HGV in the outside lane which started to indicate left and then started to turn as I was roughly level with the cab, despite my presence. This was all at fairly low speed and I had been aware of the possibility of him turning across me so moved left a little and cleared him without too much drama, but still pretty bad driving on his part. Have had a few similar situations before (although never with anything bigger than a car) and would generally cycle on with a parting shout about using mirrors, but in this instance the driver of the HGV beeped at me angrily and shouted something as I passed. I completely lost my cool at this point and did a U-turn to chase him whilst shouting at him to stop, which he did and then leapt out of his cab trying to blame me (apparently I was being “cheeky” and “sneaking” up his inside despite him indicating left). We had a bit of a shouting match (very sweary on my part sadly) for a couple of minutes (me: I was in the middle of the lane, you can’t just turn across me, dangerous driving; him: I was being cheeky/a smartarse, some desperate stuff about me not being able to drive / only cycling to antagonise drivers). During this he threatened to hit me 3 times and also tried to demand I give him my name/details (not sure to what end). Some bystanders got involved on my side and he argued the toss with them for a while too.
I eventually gave up and cycled on as he was clearly not going to back down and I couldn’t see anything to be gained by continuing to shout at him, so was intending to complain to his employers. I took a photograph of his reg but there was no company name displayed on the HGV - is there any way to find this out other than filling out a V888 to the DVLA? Has anyone done this successfully before?
Big Smoke - put in a written complaint. I made the mistake of trusting them to do their jobs properly and they had originally said the driver would be charged with dangerous driving. Fast forward a few months and after a lot of chasing I was told no charges would be brought. In my complaint I quoted chief constables comments about road safety and the road traffic act.
Unbelievably though I had to complain about my complaint not being responded to!
Saturday afternoon.
Not particularly clear from the video, but when I raised my arms to ask "what are you doing?", she points at me and says "You", or something. I cannot for the life of me figure out what she expected me to do. The driver behind me, who honks, I'm going to pretend was honking at her and not me. If anyone can offer any insight, I'd appreciate it.
Bonus car parked on the double yellow lines, in the QBC bike lane.
NSFW language.
Eh? Why didn't you just go round?
I suspect the driver was quite reasonably gesturing 'no, you have way' expecting you to go around and a bit confused why you stopped.
I have to say that in my view that is not a very serious misdemeanour by the driver - she overshot a bit, but these things happen - I make mistakes on the bike quite frequently, most of which are forgiven. I would have given some signal of understanding and gone round - I think stopping was political gesturing to be honest.
"I cannot for the life of me figure out what she expected me to do"
To go round the front I suspect.
Had the same thing happen to me in Gorgie yesterday (just after a driver had opened their door into traffic, i.e. me). I went round the front and made a 'pushing' motion to suggest they should be further back. Horses for courses, that's how I deal with it as (like algo) I don't see that as a particularly irksome thing to happen (relatively).
"Eh? Why didn't you just go round?"
Because there were cars behind me, which I didn't want to veer in front of.
She also saw me before overshooting the line.
"Because "minor" infringements are completely ignored, the law is routinely ignored for larger and larger offences."
^This.
Speeding on the motorway normalises speeding on A-roads which normalises speeding in town and will normalise speeding on 20mph roads.
The generally anti-social behaviour needs hammered, hard. I see vehicles parked on double yellow every bloody day - I don't think it's rose tinted spectacle time to say that 25 years ago people just didn't park on double yellows.
And there was a baby blue Fiat 500 parked blacking the dropped kerb at Randolph Lane on Sunday which meant I couldn't access NCN 1 without heaving my bike onto the pavement...
I am seriously thinking about printing up some "you park like an inconsiderate [****]" cards to put on windscreens. Need to think of a suitably arresting noun to drop in there. Something that children perhaps have to ask their parents what it means.
nincompoop
The idiot boy racers who were haring around Arthurs Seat last night. I reckon they passed me at 60mph+ at one point (in a 20!). They were racing each other, tailgating each other and other cars and driving like absolute idiots.
A yellow convertible (Honda S2000 I think) and a blue Mercedes.
Passenger of the convertible was filming entire thing on his phone. Occasionally standing up in his seat to get a better view of the other car.
The park was very busy last night with the good weather. Lots of cyclists and many pedestrians and runners (so many that a lot of runners had to run on the road, no room on pavement).
I saw them CJC!!!!
Just as they were going into the park from the Commie. They turned left to head down the hill while I turned right for the south road. Guy in the Honda was filming and the engines were being gunned in readiness despite the cars ahead of them. Not at all surprised to hear of their exploits.
@PS agreed. What really gets me about this is the official permission some folk have to park all + every day on double yellows. That stinks of corruption to my mind, and Edinburgh is no stranger to widespread institutional corruption as we know.
Anyway, I've just consulted the OED and I have some more nouns for you which children may have to ask their parents about: hare-brain; nidget; moonling; driveller; poggle; tattie-bogle.
@CJC Hopefully they'll be daft enough to post the footage.
@PS - I suspect that the stickers that these guys use would make inconsiderate drivers think twice about where they park. [url=
On the A1 just reaching the Duddingston Golf course entrance. A couple of chancers stuck in a queue on my right towards Duddingston Road and Road West gunned it from the queue they were stuck in withought even indicating just to race for a green light left. They had got lucky this time but it really was a dick move.
The driver of the white van behind me on Gray's Loan and then Myreside Road earlier this evening who felt the need to rev the engine while I was in primary, avoiding the door zone of the parked cars and the worst of the potholes. He then sounded the horn as I cheerily waved him by when it was actually safe for him to overtake me.
This evening, Newbridge, I'm heading west on Old Liston Road, going to turn right onto Cliftonhall Road before the roundabout. I've seen a couple of cars come out of the junction to join the queue for the roundabout, so I'm being careful. Just as well, as when I move to the right and make my clear signal to turn right, the pr*t stopped at the junction pulls out right in front of me, no looking whatsoever. Cue brakes (mine), shouting (me), swearing (me again), waving (ditto). Driver pulls away to the roundabout clearly oblivious. I despair sometimes.
Classic MGIF:
Not sure ... drunk maybe?
I didn't think 'drunk' while you were following; could just be hunting an address, but from 2 mins into the video, their road positioning in the face of oncoming traffic went to pot...which may actually have been the issue if you see what I mean...
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