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  1. Gilbot
    Member

    Doing laps of Arthur's Seat today.
    About half way up I hear a beep.
    Few seconds later much closer beep beep beep.
    Look round and see an old couple in a small car.
    Ignore them and carry on.
    Hear him beeping more then mounting the grass verge to overtake.
    He then backs off and I shout at him, "you're going to have to wait, there's no room to pass."
    I don't believe in gutter cycling on narrow roads and I was going pretty fast up there.
    The next passing place was at the top.
    Get up the hard bit at the final part of the climb then pull in to let the old **** past.
    He & wifey shouting at me, "get on the cycle path."
    I'm pretty sure that's a pedestrian footpath you demented old fools.
    Told him he should learn some patience as well as telling him to do unspeakable things to himself.
    I know I should have kept cool but it felt good.
    Bullying and aggressive drivers really put me of doing that climb.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. mgj
    Member

    Well played; you must be pretty fit already though to have any breath left at the top for instructing the idiots on their mistakes...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    "

    In the video, the driver of a large coach – branded with the logo for Scotland-based tour company Grayline – can be clearly seen using a phone, with just one hand on the wheel.

    At the time he was driving along Elm Row – one of the busiest routes in town, which is regularly used by motorists and cyclists alike.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/coach-driver-caught-using-his-mobile-at-the-wheel-in-edinburgh-city-centre-1-4175428

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. unhurt
    Member

    Black cab 1038 turning left out of Roseburn Gardens with a mobile phone clamped to his ear at 10:40 this morning. So intent on his conversation he was oblivious to me (on foot) making the universal gesture of "the phone?? really?" at him. Who do I report these things to again?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. Frenchy
    Member

    Black cab 1038 turning left out of Roseburn Gardens with a mobile phone clamped to his ear at 10:40 this morning. So intent on his conversation he was oblivious to me (on foot) making the universal gesture of "the phone?? really?" at him. Who do I report these things to again?

    Council: https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/20023/licences_and_permits/1033/make_a_complaint_about_a_taxi_or_private_hire_car

    Police can't do anything about people using a mobile phone whilst driving unless they witness it themselves. Not sure if they'd act on video footage, though.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. wingpig
    Member

    Despite being in ultra-primary for turning right out of Mountcastle Drive South I was still revvishly overtaken by NG02 LDA's driver ten metres from the give way line. Any time he saved he then wasted several times over as he popped his head out to shouting enquire why I was waggling my little finger at him.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. wingpig
    Member

    A small grey car shuddered to a small skidding stop two inches from someone's knee in the heavy rain this morning as its driver failed to notice someone walking across the pelican crossing, who had started crossing since before the vehicle left the give way line on the other side.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. wishicouldgofaster
    Member

    Driving to the conditions - NOT!!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  9. chrisfl
    Member

    Slightly odd conversation this morning with some HGV drivers delivering to the cement works on Cutlins Road. A lorry was parked on one side of the road and while another lorry was inching past, the road was completey blocked and I took out my phone to stop an alarm that had gone off.

    Another Cement works delivery driver then started shouting at me, then got out the vehicle, it turned out he thought I was taking pictures (I wasn't although if I was what's the problem)? He was then joined by another driver from the cement works. Having established that I was just waiting in the road and didn't have any particular gripes with them, they had a friendly rant about all cyclists wearing Hi-Vis (like them) and not undertaking. We shook hands on me not wanting to be killed and them not wanting to kill, and continued on our way.

    Once I got to Edinburgh Park I was overtaken by a driver on the phone who ended up in the car park of the company I have my pension with. Very tempted to put a support request in asking that they try not to kill their customers.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. sallyhinch
    Member

    Of course the pension company have a vested interest in wiping you out before you start claiming - as a cyclist you're going to live for ever and put a serious crimp in their actuarial tables

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Rubbish driving brought to you today by me. :-(

    I was heading south towards the FRB around teatime and misjudged the speed of a particularly capable cyclist who came around the roundabout from Rosyth where the road dips under the A90 and you get a boost of speed. I know this only because I did it myself last week. I nipped out in front of the guy, probably cutting him up a bit, which caused him to yell out. I did think about waiting in the lorry layby nearer the bridge to apologise, then realised that I would have used the "But I'm a cyclist too!" line and been read the riot act for my trouble.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. acsimpson
    Member

    Arellcat, it was me. If I remember correctly I had a bus on my tail so was probably going quite quickly. I don't like that roundabout as you are having to be aware of what's behind you as well as ensuring you don't get cut up and are ready to move into the bus lane which doesn't give way to the roundabout. While doing this you need to ensuring that if there is stationary traffic just round the corner you don't run into it.

    So a vehicle pulling out unexpectedly while you're looking in one of the other directions is always a little startling.

    If you had stopped to apologise I suspect you would probably have just been met with bemusement as I had moved onto thinking about other stuff by the top of the sliproad.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. LivM
    Member

    Passed the aftermath of some rubbish driving on Queensferry Road half an hour ago. One car on its roof, another with front bashed in, a couple of others in disarray. And a tent. Not good.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. wingpig
    Member

    Just passed the Queensferry mess. On the way out this morning there were some police coning around a burnt car shell on the Newbridge roundabout.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. nobrakes
    Member

    White van on overgrown single track road, very little space. Pulled over as he came towards me, he went past at about 40 mph, missing my handlebars by about 6 inches.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  16. Roibeard
    Member

    Where the driver might pass only with care and courtesy, I no longer let drivers pass.

    I've learnt to bring them to a halt by maintaining primary, and only then squeezing past when they're stationary.

    Of course the driver will be hacked off by this display of assertiveness, but you've protected yourself in the process.

    And yes, one day, one of them may choose to run me over, but I'm playing the odds that most of them are simply careless, not murderous.

    Robert

    Posted 7 years ago #
  17. Frenchy
    Member

    And yes, one day, one of them may choose to run me over, but I'm playing the odds that most of them are simply careless, not murderous.

    I worry that some of them are so careless as to not even see me.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  18. LaidBack
    Member

    White van on overgrown single track road, very little space. Pulled over as he came towards me, he went past at about 40 mph, missing my handlebars by about 6 inches.

    Kintyre welcomes careful cyclists - as long as they make room for careless drivers! Think you're still in that lovely part of the world?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  19. nobrakes
    Member

    Laidback,almost everybody has been very courteous, sometimes overly so (like when they stop in a passing place 200m away on a steep incline, and you then feel obliged to put some proper effort in to get up to where they have stopped). I am noticing the 'what on earth is that crazy contraption, better give it a wide berth' effect as well.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  20. neddie
    Member

    A driver with a huge smartphone "suckered" onto their windscreen, directly in the line of vision.

    I was approaching in the opposite direction and her face was completely obscured from my view!

    The stupidity of some people is just unbelievable.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  21. Rothar
    Member

    Around 5.15 this evening, I was cycling down Queen's Drive and on the roundabout, a driver in a biscuit coloured car looks at me and pulls out of Holyrood Gait forcing me to apply my brakes sharply and just missing me crashing into the side of the vehicle ever so slightly!

    Can't work out whether it was my hi-viz helmet or hi-viz vest that the driver didn't see?

    Anyway, it was a clear failure of MGIF as I pootled on ahead whilst she got to enjoy sitting in a long line of traffic.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  22. biketrain
    Member

    Spotted two Council workers driving Council vans whilst on their mobile phones, in last 24 hours. Details and reg numbers passed to Edinburgh Council.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  23. skinnypins
    Member

    Two drivers using their mobile phones while driving up Dundas St this morning.

    The first was in a Tremmel Properties van, so a less than ideal company ambassador there.

    The second was staring down at their lap (hands busy fiddling with their phone) and driving so slowly that I undertook them while climbing the hill on a Brompton! I imagine they'd argue it was safe to do so as there were no other cars around them...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  24. wingpig
    Member

    Large black SUV thing overtook me yestereve on Dundee Street n the right-hand bend past the slip down to the WAR, whilst I was in primary overtaking another cyclist, who was in the gutter. The car's right indicator was then switched on as it slowed to turn right down Dundee Terrace, whereupon both cyclists re-passed it.
    This morning I was walking on the clearly-delineated footway past the green/white shoutball venue when a van coming the other way U-turned and swung round to park, not going very slowly not very far away from me.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  25. condor2378
    Member

    Last night I had a first. Beeping, handwaving, out my way 4x4 pulls over to call me an Ahole for holding primary, I tell him the side of the road is bad. After a bit of to and fro, I point out that we've now spent more time arguing about it than I held him up. He agrees, says sorry and shakes my hand. I was genuinely taken aback, but shook his hand and said thank you. The one time I didn't have my helmet camera on.....

    Posted 7 years ago #
  26. deckard112
    Member

    ...would be the taxi driver who squeezed past me on the Dean Bridge this morning whilst there was traffic passing the other way, only for him to join a queue of traffic. I pulled up and gave him a mouthful(no swearing though!) which I think his poor passenger got more of than he did. Driver made a point of looking dead ahead though refusing to make eye contact, clearly knew what he'd done and assume he didn't want to engage with a 'witness' in the cab.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  27. minus six
    Member

    Textbook punishment pass by Timberbush Tours driver yesterday morning

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    Posted 7 years ago #
  28. algo
    Member

    @bax - did they even see you? If they did that is criminal - I've had a few of those, and the time it takes for the coach to pass while you become destabilised within touching distance feels like about 5 minutes. Utterly disgraceful.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  29. minus six
    Member

    Caught up with him at the junction moments later and he gave it the old non-plussed "didn't see you" shrug. i pointed at my handlebars and said, well my camera certainly saw it. Almost felt sorry for him when the jaw dropped.

    I've had previous with careless Timberbush minibus drivers in town, I know I'm not the only one here who has, so it will be interesting to hear their response to the clip.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  30. minus six
    Member

    @deckard112

    Really have to take the full lane on Dean Bridge

    I go three quarters over, just to make sure the message is clear

    Posted 7 years ago #

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