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  1. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Lady in a (I forget) 4 wheeled contrivance was so desperate to get out of the Scottish Widows basement carpark on Semple Street that she literally threw herself infront of me. OK, I've come to expect this sort of thing, but she was pulling right in to the back of a stationary queue at reds waiting to turn into end of Morrison Street. And I did have to come to a dead stop to avoid T-boning her. And perhaps more importantly there was a fire engine very close behind me and I was actually trying to get in to the right, somewhere safe and non-obstructing which she completely prevented me from doing so I had to go round the outside and tuck in some place else.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. Rob
    Member

    Classic MGIF to queue maneuver:

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    I don't normally get much grief on Great Junction Street. Probably because of the obvious queues/red lights up ahead.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. dougal
    Member

    Big people-carrier-taxi driven by an idiot yesterday.

    Heading north on Lothian Road at 10.30 last night, waiting at the lights at the junction with West Approach Road. The taxi driver used the W Approach green light as his own green light and nearly smashed into the side of a small car.

    I gave a sarcastic slow-clap as he reversed back behind the stop line. Well, not actually behind it - the rear wheels ended up behind it. And that's what counts, right?

    Thirty seconds along the road on Princes Street and the same taxi was still to my right. Two pedestrians outside the bank/McDonalds waved for a lift so he just swerved left before realising there was traffic (eg me on bike, a car behind me) in the left hand lane.

    I moved past as he was at an acute angle, 1/3 into the left-hand lane, indicators on, blocking both lanes. I nearly shouted "don't get that taxi, the guy clearly can't drive".

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. SpeedyG
    Member

    An Expert (in name only) Logistics courier vehicle (7.5 tonne truck) pulling out of a side street on to South Gyle Mains this afternoon. Would never had been a problem if it hadn't been for the pesky cyclist that was already on the road. I, the cyclist, grabbed a lot of brake but was never going to stop in time so swung around the cab but in doing so upset myself on the bike.about 5 metres or so past the cab my disk brakes bit down hard throwing me over the handlebar.
    I left the bike in the middle of the road and remonstrated with the driver, unfortunately I swore once or thrice but blame this on the adrenaline. The driver just sat there and said "I never hit you" followed by "I never saw you". So that's OK then, I missed the offside front of his cab by inches and I've sustained a very small cut to the thumb (frayed wire off my shifter cable I suspect) and a scraped and bloodied knee that's stiffening up nicely now!
    I've called their office and someone from the depot will speak to the driver, they have my details but don't expect much feedback.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. jonty
    Member

    Screw "feedback" - despite the (extremely lucky) lack of a collision, you've been involved in a road traffic incident. Get your bike checked over at a local bike shop or two and then submit a claim to the company for the cost of the examination(s) and any repairs (including cosmetic) along with a note explaining how lucky they are you're not lodging a personal injury claim as well. Ensure you report it to the police too, if only to get a reference number for the insurance claim.

    Cycle Law Scotland or similar is your friend if you need any further advice.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. Frenchy
    Member

    "I'm pulling over now...good luck!"

    (Contains loud and distinctly non-zen language)

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    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. Rothar
    Member

    The dafty in the blue Peugeot 307 - SD57 MOA.

    Yes, I saw you, and yes, you saw me!

    A MGIF manoeuvre: pulled out on me whilst on a roundabout - forcing me to apply my brakes sharply, followed by an utterly pointless and close last minute exit on the next roundabout, again said brakes were applied rather swiftly and unnecessarily.
    Perhaps they had taken driving tips from the latest (Don't) Think! Government ad - http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/twitter-reacts-governments-desparately-misguided-cycle-safety-campaign-video-286550

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. tammytroot
    Member

    MGIF?
    Is that like SMIDGAF?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  9. tammytroot
    Member

    Sorry, meant to add sympathies for the incident as well.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. Frenchy
    Member

    Is that like SMIDGAF?

    Aye - Must Get In Front, regardless of practical benefits to the driver and safety of other people.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    "

    He said: “It was total carnage. I would say about three cars were written off.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/chaos-as-bmw-hits-five-cars-in-slalom-on-broomhouse-grove-1-4241188

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. dougal
    Member

    White Van Man for John Something-like-McNamara on Leith Walk, sat waaay too close to my back wheel, revving and trying to push past on single lane with high fence. Gave me verbal abuse and finger wagging as he passed so he could join the traffic sitting on the roundabout at London Road.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. algo
    Member

    Not really rubbish driving, but I had a very civilised chat with a motorcyclist on a serious looking Triumph who entered three ASLs along side me in a row this morning. I mentioned to him that it was a fineable offence, and he said two wheels were two wheels in his book, and he had to "protect himself from the cagers" too, which I entirely sympathise with. I imagine he's knowingly relying on the fact that the police just turn a blind eye to ASL encroachment in general. He was a reasonable guy, and his riding was certainly that of a seasoned and considerate rider.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @algo

    I think the owner of Freewhelin in Shandon rides a Triumph....

    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. algo
    Member

    @IWRATS - it was a white fairly powerful looking thing (I'd guess even maybe 900cc). I should have taken more notice. This guy was certainly no anti-cyclist - he was perfectly reasonable I thought..

    Posted 7 years ago #
  16. steveo
    Member

    Drivist stopped over the pedestrian crossing, suddenly had to fix her hair when the lollipop man started to cross with the green man and told her in no uncertain terms that they should not have crossed the line until it was clear to proceed.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  17. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @algo

    I had the same chat with Mr Freewheelin - admired his bike in an ASL at the Myreside/Colinton moonscape junction.

    I'd rather PTWs kept out of ASLs, but I'm not a fan of ASLs and most bike riders' roadcraft is pretty good.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  18. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Motorbikes are generally pretty fast away from lights (I'd say the order is Mbikes > cyclists > cars over 20-30 yards if everyone is paying attention and motivated) so provided they're going to be sensible about it (Deliveroo scooterists need not apply), I'd personally rather have them alongside than behind the line & attempting a quick pass.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  19. ARobComp
    Member

    50% of drivers in the queue for the temporary lights at fountain park on their phones. (12 vehicles)

    Also this from the other week is now on SWD http://www.scotlandsworstdrivers.com/tesco-investigates-video-showing-van-almost-hit-cyclist-1-9961/

    Posted 7 years ago #
  20. algo
    Member

    @IWRATS In concur - @Murun Buchstansang - I also concur

    Posted 7 years ago #
  21. Frenchy
    Member

    50% of drivers in the queue for the temporary lights at fountain park on their phones. (12 vehicles)

    I was shocked yesterday because I actually went the whole day without seeing someone using a phone whilst driving.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    "this from the other week"

    Any further response from Tesco?

    Tesco backed their driver when van came into contact with rider in Edinburgh.

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3748&page=19#post-84485

    Posted 7 years ago #
  23. Anyone breaking the law at an ASL is breaking the law. They are neither reasonable nor considerate in my book. The number of wheels their engine powers is irrelevant.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  24. dougal
    Member

    Driver of large coach on Princes Street west end in the right lane of the two which turn into South Charlotte Street. Overtook me on the straight and used both lanes to turn the corner, requiring me to hit the brakes sharp. The guy DGAF clearly and neither did the cab driver behind me who used my new kerb-hugging position as an excuse for a dangerous overtake on the corner.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  25. ARobComp
    Member

    @chdot - they're "investigating" but likely nothing will come of it. They've told this to Scotlands Worst Drivers guy but not to me of course... They fobbed me off with a note about how they couldn't release any details on the investigation because of "data protection"

    Posted 7 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Hamilton, of Bonnybridge, Stirlingshire, had denied causing Mr Wills’ death by dangerous driving. But yesterday on the second day of his trial at the High Court in Stirling before Lord Ericht, the Crown accepted his plea of guilty to the lesser offence of causing death by careless driving.

    Sentence was deferred and he was banned from driving immediately.

    "

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/bin-lorry-driver-faces-jail-after-causing-death-of-80-year-old-1-4242018

    Posted 7 years ago #
  27. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Yesterday evening was circus time for some reason.

    1) A guy veering around between lanes without indicating at the roadworks on Bristo Place. Waved when he eventually saw me.

    2) A lady MGIFer at the junction of Relugas and Mayfield. Traffic solid as I right turned onto Mayfield so I took ten seconds to fit my lights. Lady appears on my left signalling right. I do the 'you stay there' signal, she pulls out after me, overtakes, gets stuck at the lights. I do the 'your life is a tragic farce' headshake.

    3) Guy totally fails to clock me on the Lady Road roundabout as I turn into Cameron Toll. I wasn't signalling as I needed both hands but he wasn't looking anyway. I knew he was going to do it about three or four seconds before he did it so no danger.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  28. dougal
    Member

    A taxi driver waiting at the green lights outside the Playhouse on northbound carriage? Well of course he's examining a little glowing box in his hand. I peer into the cab and he drops it, gives me the thumbs up and drives off... immediately pulls into the taxi rank on the left. Couldn't wait ten seconds and thirty yards to check Facebook.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  29. jdanielp
    Member

    The young lady driving a red hatchback in the 5mph nose to tail traffic on the A71 just now. I had dismounted from my bicycle and was looking to cross to the north gate of Heriot-Watt campus via the traffic island. From previous experience, I know that I can wait for a long time when there is nose to tail traffic for anyone to actually bother to stop for me despite the complete lack of impact of their journey, so I made it very clear that I was about to cross the road by starting to wheel my bike out in it before crossing at the first available gap of a reasonable looking size. Just as I cleared the east-bound lane without having caused the oncoming driver to need to brake, she took the time to sound her horn to which I responded with the raised arm of exasperation. I then made the mistake of glancing back as I crossed the empty west-bound lane to see her giving me the finger, a gesture which I returned... I know, I should have gone with a thumbs up both times.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  30. CJC
    Member

    The oncoming taxi driver on Westburn Avenue who tried to overtake a cyclist, but had to abort when he realised I was oncoming with a double decker behind me. In his abort he squeezed the cyclist he had not quite finished passing in to a parked car.

    The cyclist looked annoyed but was very controlled. I would have shouted at the taxi driver, but he seemed to just let it go.

    Posted 7 years ago #

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