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  1. Ed1
    Member

    Looking at the picture of that crash the only BMW evolved is a BMW 3 series compact not a one series.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    The wrong glasses - pull the other one. And only a 14 month driving ban for taking a life - unbelievable.

    RIP to the deceased.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-39383709

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. Nelly
    Member

    I cycled along past the gyle crash site yesterday. Dual carriageway,but has a "gap" in the central reservation.

    Wonder if one car tried to pull a cheeky U-turn?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. Frenchy
    Member

    Minibus driver on Princes St. Tram in right hand lane, cyclist [me] in left hand lane. Thought process seems to have been:

    Cyclist is in the middle of the lane! I'll have to wait till the right hand lane is clear to overtake! This might slow me down by 5 whole seconds! I should rev my engine, that'll get him to speed up and get out of my way! I'll also give him the middle finger as I pass - that'll help me reach the red light before the cyclist!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. Rob
    Member

    @Frenchy sounds all too familiar. Some people seem to get angry at having to steer slightly.

    Much more mundane, this person gets bored of waiting:

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    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. Greenroofer
    Member

    Driver of big black 4x4 on the Lanark Road, who felt obliged to hoot at me and then wind down the window and offer some 'words of advice'. This because I had the temerity to stay out of the door zone and take the whole lane at one of the traffic islands near the TA centre. It was 8:45pm, the road was deserted, and I must have held him up for, I dunno, five seconds.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. neddie
    Member

    The white van man, EY09KGU who managed at least 100yds along Balgreen Rd (past the primary school) with his head down at 30mph, not even glancing up once from his texting.

    I thought 'outside schools' was where drivers were supposed to obey the laws (20mph, etc)?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    "Cumnock dad drove on pavement and hit bus outside Greenmill Primary School during morning run road rage spree

    Derek Anderson flew into a fury after he was blocked in by a bus just after 9am, steering along the footpath and confronting the driver."

    Some parent.

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/cumnock-dad-drove-road-hit-10107152

    Posted 7 years ago #
  9. Darkerside
    Member

    This morning's little delight

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    Posted 7 years ago #
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  11. wingpig
    Member

    The driver of Crystal Petroleum tanker KX63 NBF claims that i should know that he needs more than one lane to make the turn from Princes Street to Lothian Road. I do, but it's disappointing that he doesn't and accelerated round the inside of the bend then tried to change lanes into the lane I was in, presumably clearly visible in front of him in a bright red T-shirt before he moved alongside. They're not on Twitter but have a Facebook page to be complained at through. If the driver's claim is true that he's "driven further in reverse than I have forwards on my pedal-bike" then he perhaps needs to improve his navigation and drive with a banksperson.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. algo
    Member

    @wingpig - here is a video as a keepsake (I presume)

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    what on earth has how many miles he reversed got to do with anything? I hope you told him you'd spent more time brushing glass up than he had shearing sheep in his lorry.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. dougal
    Member

    Red Vauxhall Vivaro registration FN15 CGY busy overtaking cyclists with exactly no attempt made to make room. When you're travelling 100yds behind you get a very clear view of how little vehicles deviate from the line they're in.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. fimm
    Member

    Today's most rubbish piece of driving was a slightly poor overtake into oncoming traffic that would not normally get me on this thread except that the car had a "Think Bike" sticker. If you are going to promote consideration to powered two-wheelers, you might show some consideration to the pedal kind...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    "

    ‪Prosecution and conviction rates for drivers who cause fatal road crashes are lower than they were five years ago, new figures show.

    "

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39457880‬

    Posted 7 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

  17. jules878
    Member

    Just now.... (ie 11.15 pm ish)

    I was just about to turn right from Riversdale Crescent towards Ice Rink / Roseburn Park when I realised a car exiting from side road at speed was not going to stop.

    So I gave way (didn't want to get squished) and said "take care"....

    The driver bellowed "Nae f*cking lights" as he continued his left turn without stopping.

    I have solid and flashing lights on both front and back of bike, but he is quite correct that I have no side lights.

    So my failure to wrap myself in Xmas lights to ensure I'm lit from all sides clearly excuses his failure to Highway Code 172 (You MUST give way to traffic on the main road when emerging from a junction).

    Posted 7 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Three teenagers were forced to run for their lives after a driver deliberately chased them in his car – on a pavement.

    The friends, who want to remain anonymous, were walking home from the city centre to Blackford around 4am on Sunday morning.

    As they made their way down Kilgraston Road, the women were passed by a silver car travelling beyond the speed limit.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/teens-ran-for-lives-as-car-chased-them-down-pavement-1-4411206

    Posted 7 years ago #
  19. Frenchy
    Member

    Driver of a Wiseman's van who was driving down Ravenscroft St with his nose glued to his phone "has been disciplined according to company procedure."

    Posted 7 years ago #
  20. piosad
    Member

    There should be a rubbish all-round road behaviour thread. A mildly weird incident today at Gilmore Place. As I was going east past the Lower Gilmore Place corner with cars following behind (at a respectful distance) a cyclist on a road bike emerged rather abruptly from LGP, seemingly intent on getting out in front of me. I slowed down, though he did end up thinking better of it. I felt a tinge of annoyance as I'd not even try to nose out in front if I were in his position, but thought this the end of the incident. Once past the corner, I was (exemplarily!) overtaken by a Parcelforce van, with whom I then caught up at the lights, him in the left lane, me waiting for the right turn. This is where things got a bit weird as the Parcelforce driver addressed me. I couldn't hear him over the engine noise. Eventually I realized he was having a good-natured moan to me about that cyclist overtaking him (which I couldn't see) and then running the red at the junction. I expressed a muffled solidarity with his annoyance, but desisted from pointing out he had actually driven into the ASZ on a red light in order to get closer to me to have the conversation.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  21. gembo
    Member

    @piosad the layout of the road along that way encourages this sort of thing.

    If you spot the lights at the very end are red you can take the right lane all the way as cars are not really going to get past you except to be in front of you at the ASZ. You can then overtake them again. Then when lights change if turning right you cN bet the car coming from the lane at the theatre.

    So all in all not my favourite road nor junction.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  22. piosad
    Member

    Yeah, it's not great is it. Today's rubbish driving there comes from the dark VW who did a very impatient close overtake starting off from the lights at Viewforth. I hadn't even overtaken them; as far as I could see all I had done to deserve it was to commit the cardinal sin of Being On The Road While Cycling. Of course they were still waiting on the red by the time I came up to the KT junction.

    My life will be so much less stressful if/when the Meadows to Canal thing eventually materializes.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  23. Min
    Member

    I just got overtaken by a motorist while doing 20mph in one of the new 20 zones. I was driving a car at the time.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  24. Frenchy
    Member

    Impatient driver squeezing a cyclist through a traffic island on Lasswade Road, downhill past The Murrays.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  25. Greenroofer
    Member

    Comiston Drive. Double parked van on the opposite side of the road to me. Wide road, but still not enough space for me on my bike and oncoming Audi to fit through the gap safely. I have priority, and make my intention clear to exercise it. Audi goes for the gap anyway, and misses me by inches.

    It's in a 20mph zone. All the person in the car needed to do was predict my actions and lift their foot off the accelerator gently. They wouldn't even have needed to come to a halt.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  26. SRD
    Moderator

    Have been taking micro-srd to holiday club this week, which involves navigating around the back of Watsons. The dropping-off parents on Tipperlin are just a menace - completely oblivious to any other road users - and the rat-runners through Morningside Place are unbelievably entitled - driving straight through at a six-year old with no where to go.

    Quite a lot of them heard exactly what I thought of them this morning.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  27. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Good for you, SRD. There are a lot of self-entitled drivers round there; I've encountered some of them too. I was recently shouted at for 'riding in the middle of the road' (Millar Crescent), and said driver tried to undertake me as we both waited to turn right onto Morningside Road! Needless to say, she wasn't given the opportunity.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  28. jonty
    Member

    Indefensible stuff. Once upon a time, drop-offs round the back were against school rules and probably still are. Might be worth writing a letter/email letting them know quite specifically how their blazers put you in harm's way - they do care about this stuff (or at least make it look like they do) especially as you'd sound like a prospective 'customer'.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  29. Frenchy
    Member

    Apparently raising my hand in mild exasperation when a driver pulls out in front of me, forcing me to brake (automatic fail if you did that in your driving test), makes me a five letter word rhyming with "brick".

    Posted 7 years ago #
  30. davidsonsdave
    Member

    SRD's post reminds me of my nursery drop off, which for the last part is along a single track road with passing places. On the way into nursery, I always ensure that I use the passing places (which are on the left) so that cars coming the other way don't have to brake for me (on my bike with trailer).

    On my way out, cars coming the other way regularly do not extent the same courtesy to me. This morning it was the driver of a monstrous black SUV who drove straight at me. I was tempted to put the speed on and force them to reverse, but instead I stopped early to block their exit from the next passing place, keeping them there for just that bit longer than was necessary, my face leaving them in no doubt about my opinion of their standard of driving.

    Posted 7 years ago #

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