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  1. wishicouldgofaster
    Member

    Glenogle road last night - a big jeep overtakes me very close at speed.

    Annoyingly though the driver decided he wasn't in a hurry after all just before the pinch point as he stopped to chat with a driver coming the other way with both cars blocking all traffic.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. Frenchy
    Member

    Heading up Kirk Brae, between Liberton Road and Double Hedges Road, had three or four of the worst passes I've ever had on that stretch one after the other. Really felt like they'd made the road narrower overnight.

    EDIT: And when I got home I realised I'd taken the memory cards out of my cameras and not put them back.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. Frenchy
    Member

    https://youtu.be/5lVtEJHZtwA

    Guy was genuinely about to overtake through that pinch point until I stuck my hand out in a "Stop" motion.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. dessert rat
    Member

    100miles to Melrose and back today, 4 close passes during the day, all on Kirk Brae.

    My first and last time on that road.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. neddie
    Member

    White Landrover Discovery G2VUP travelling in excess of 40mph eastbound on Warrender Pk Rd (20mph limit) this afternoon (Sat 1st July 2017, 14:46)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. Frenchy
    Member

    @Iain - not fun. Where on Kirk Brae? The very bottom, then just before the traffic island on thesteepestbit?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. Frenchy
    Member

    Double post.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. Stickman
    Member

    No right turn from Roseburn Terrace into Roseburn St which is closed for gasworks. I've seen several cars in a row do u-turns round the crossing island to turn left down Roseburn Gardens, and one just go on the wrong side of the road to do an illegal right turn down there.

    There'll be a collision soon.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. Stickman
    Member

    Driver of "Loch Ness Tour" coach who was giving a woman no space and driving murderously close on Princes St.

    How the **** are coach drivers not aware of what happened a few weeks ago?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. wingpig
    Member

    SN15 CYK, whose driver was using a headset microphone as they went through the Shandwick Place/Princes Street junction. Rabbie's.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. Frenchy
    Member

    @Wingpig - that VRN isn't quite right, it belongs to a tractor according to the DVLA.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @wingpig

    @Morningsider suggested the Traffic Commissioner as the best point of complaint;

    enquiries@otc.gsi.gov.uk

    Posted 6 years ago #
  13. wingpig
    Member

    SN14. Misheard myself half-day home.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. I knew I'd noted the number of the Rabbie's driver I saw driving whilst using a microphone somewhere - found in in a draft Tweet this morning: RX12 EGY

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. Stickman
    Member

    Usual low level rubbish driving today, but it was the sheer number which struck me (and these were just a sample)

    - driver stopped on the zigzags at the crossing on St Johns Road to go into Costa

    - driver stopped in St John's Road bus lane to go to the bank machine

    - car doing a U-turn without signalling round the pedestrian crossing at Roseburn Terrace to go down Roseburn Gardens

    - black taxi making an illegal right turn into the Haymarket drop off, again without signalling

    - driver on his phone on West Maitland Street

    - driver going through the red straight ahead light at West Maitland Street

    - white van driver DF65 BJJ running the red light at the EICC crossing

    I guess Nick Cook would say they were all making rational assessments that their actions were safe and that the laws were unnecessary.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  16. neddie
    Member

    ^^^ like

    Posted 6 years ago #
  17. fimm
    Member

    Chap driving Edinburgh City Council bin lorry registration VE64 ADJ (possibly) waiting to turn out of Downfield Place to Dalry Road was using his phone. So I stopped and made "phone!" gestures and he informed me that it was "OK, hen, I'm not moving"...

    Is it worth complaining? If so where to?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  18. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @fimm

    To the Transport Manager of CEC;

    https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/view-details/licence/2188

    Name

    PATRICK JOSEPH TRAYNOR
    LIAM GLASS

    38 RUSSELL ROAD, EDINBURGH, EH11 2LP, GB

    Posted 6 years ago #
  19. Frenchy
    Member

    Yes. Good question, possibly waste@edinburgh.gov.uk

    Posted 6 years ago #
  20. Arellcat
    Moderator

    fimm, your CEC driver is wrong.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2003/2695/made

    In the amendment, 'driving' means being in charge of a motor vehicle, and being in charge means being the driver and having the engine running, whether you're moving or stopped.

    If a passenger doesn't attempt to stop the use of the mobile phone, then the passenger is also guilty of the offence.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  21. fimm
    Member

    @Arellcat I thought as much. Should have made more of an issue of it at the time, I think.
    IWRATS/Frenchy thank you for the links.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  22. Stickman
    Member

    @Arellcat: I never knew about passengers also committing an offence! Would be almost impossible to prove though.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  23. qwerty
    Member

    SP63ONS neon blue Vauxhall Corsa, angry male driver who had a problem with me being in the correct lane to go straight ahead on Lanark Road (therefore holding him up by a few seconds) heading towards the Cross Keys this evening and didn't mind showing/shouting/waving angry fists about it, even after following me along the road for a while. Presumably he wanted me to move into the incorrect left lane as a cyclist so that he could get past, because he thought he should have priority.
    Duly reported to 101.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    "Duly reported to 101"

    Good.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  25. qwerty
    Member

    First time I've reported such an incident to 101, wasn't sure whether to, but the sheer nastiness/unreasonableness/anger seemed so out of order it was worth flagging (in case the driver has other incidents).

    Posted 6 years ago #
  26. Snowy
    Member

    @arellcat @fimm @stickman

    Not just passengers. Anyone!

    "No person shall cause or permit any other person..."

    So if you see someone using a mobile phone behind the wheel and you have the opportunity and capability to do something about it, then you are obliged to, or you are yourself breaking the law....it would seem!

    Unlikely to ever be tested in a court, since law enforcement seldom seem to prosecute even flagrant breaches, but it's nice to know there's a legal defence for yelling at someone to get off the phone...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  27. wingpig
    Member

    Although he didn't touch it with his hands I did wonder how much attention the minibus-taxi driver in the left lane going from York to Picardy Place with a phone mounted in his sightline on his dashboard (in addition to a satnav) would be paying to it instead of squishy hazards, so I wasn't surprised when he moved into the space I was trying to be in without indicating or looking on the way down to the roundabout. Apparently I should put a sock in it.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  28. Stickman
    Member

    Small dark blue hatchback being driven along St John's Road with a flat tire this evening. I'm not convinced the driver knew.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  29. Frenchy
    Member

    Two this evening:

    PHC driver was behind a bus stopped at a bus stop on Canongate. My wife and I were cycling towards him, downhill, but he couldn't be jeered to wait 5 seconds for us to pass before he passed the bus. Bus driver gave a commiseratory wave/shrug/head shake though, which really did make me feel better.

    Taxi driver with an extraordinarily close punishment pass going through the junction between Craigmillar Park and Liberton Road. My wife had said to me as we waited at the lights that the taxi driver behind us hadn't given her much space when he passed, so I was watching him carefully, and made sure to take a strong primary position. Glad I did, as he left barely a foot of space as he passed.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  30. Arellcat
    Moderator

    I was having a great ride this morning, on my usual 30 mile training route. But just two minutes away from getting home I was punishment passed by a van driver for Rollo Developments. I will be writing to them.

    Posted 6 years ago #

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