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  1. Frenchy
    Member

    Two drivers pulling out in front of me as I went up Gilmerton Road.

    First turned right out of Moredunvale Road despite there being traffic coming both directions on Gilmerton Road. I had to stop completely, and the elderly driver didn't look in my direction once, despite some loud shouting. If as oblivious as they seem, they really should not be driving any more.

    Second was the driver of an Iceland lorry turning right from Drum St to Ferniehill Drive. He saw me coming but either forgot how long his vehicle was or just didn't care, and turned across in front of me anyway.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Unless there's something seriously weird about the phasing of the lights at the South Clerk Street/East Preston Street junction a Lothian bus just jumped a red to turn right into my path.

    A coach had got stranded turning right into town and drove off on the amber, but I had green to go straight ahead and was in the middle of the junction when the bus followed it and came at me from my right.

    I slowed down, but I didn't let him bully me. Not sure if the cars behind did the same thing, suspect not.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. piosad
    Member

    Either something weird or mind-boggling levels of couldn't-care-less MGIFery this morning. Eastbound on Gilmore Place as usual, I'm approaching the shops and there is a car doing a three-point-turn in the middle of the opposite lane. I slow down a bit to give them the time, at which point the driver behind me overtakes and cuts immediately in front of me to stop at the kerb (cycle lane? what cycle lane?), thereby forcing me to overtake themselves but now at a much less safe distance from the car astride the other lane. What the hell was that?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. Frenchy
    Member

    Video of those two incidents mentioned above (some swearing involved):

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    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. fimm
    Member

    A driver pulled a somewhat nasty aggressive and unnecessary overtake on the way to a red light in East Calder this morning. Wouldn't have bothered posting except for the fact that when I pulled up behind the car I noticed that it had a little sticker in memory of Paul Walker (or I guess more accurately Paul Walker's "The Fast and the Furious" character, I suppose) on the back...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. sallyhinch
    Member

    I'm glad you're posting @Fimm as I just saw this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-41073530

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. fimm
    Member

    @sallyhinch sounds nasty. I used to use that roundabout most days on the way to the station, but usually take the cycle paths these days (not so much to avoid the roundabout as the nasty road that leads to it).

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. Stickman
    Member

    @edintravel:

    "We're hearing a vehicle has hit one of the bridges on Balgreen Rd (not sure if it's tram or rail) - could be some delays there. #edintravel"

    Posted 7 years ago #
  9. algo
    Member

    @Frenchy - how good are your stunt falls? Maybe a dukes of hazard style roll-over-the bonnet on the first one might make them aware of your presence?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. Frenchy
    Member

    I think I'd have been clinging on to the window wipers till they got home and out of the car before they noticed me.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. fimm
    Member

    I think the driver of the Iceland lorry was taking the opportunity to turn given by the car in the outside lane.
    Drivers of motor vehicles do force other drivers to stop, or pull out into gaps that aren't quite big enough. I think the lorry would have turned regardless of what kind of vehicle you'd been in.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. jonty
    Member

    I think some drivers of long vehicles work on the basis that if they don't force anyone to stop suddenly, it's fine. Not what the highway code says but sometimes hard to blame them in congested traffic.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. neddie
    Member

    What the Iceland lorry did, I call "the London right turn".

    Basically, because London is so congested, there is never enough of a gap to ever make a right turn without causing someone else to slow. So London drivers, turning right, push out across the first half of the carriageway causing that side to slow/stop, then wait for a second "gap" on the other half. Then they complete the manuevre, which then causes the other side to slow.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. Frenchy
    Member

    Agree with the above comments. It's not actually as bad as I thought it was at the time - I possibly wouldn't have noticed it at all if I hadn't already been primed by the first one.

    It's definitely been my week for noticing right-turning drivers on Gilmerton Road though:

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    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    "

    A 20-year-old has been charged with various offences including causing serious injury by dangerous driving, failing to stop and report a collision as well as theft of a motorcycle.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/two-arrests-over-drylaw-hit-and-run-1-4545745

    Posted 7 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

  17. HankChief
    Member

    My 'test' for whether someone else's driving is unacceptable is whether my response would have been different had I been in a car* **.

    From the video, I wouldn't be that bothered with either, but I wasn't there so YMMV.

    *Not everyone may have regular experience of having been in car so this may not work for everyone.

    **It also doesn't take into account that you are more vulnerable on a bike so should be given more consideration.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  18. dougal
    Member

    @HankChief - I think I prefer "would they have done the same if I were in a car" - nobody ever "doors" a bus, punishment passes a slow-moving tractor or takes a corner sloppily through a lorry.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  19. wingpig
    Member

    "No-one ever... ... punishment passes a slow-moving tractor..."

    It probably has less of an effect for the high-seated cage-protected tractor driver (and therefore less satisfaction for the overtaking bully) but I've seen plenty of narky close/fast/revvy overtakes of tractors, combines and sprayers. To be fair to some of them the drivers of Lincolnshire can sometimes seem sensible and patient.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  20. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Frenchy

    You need to up the Doricness of your video chat. Fit in 'i hell wis at, min? Etc etc.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  21. wishicouldgofaster
    Member

    dougal - I saw a woman driver door a bus in Guildford once. The door was practically snapped right off. She had the cheek to have a pop at the bus driver too when it was a clear case of not looking from her.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  22. Min
    Member

    I read a whole article in a magazine once about poor beleaguered drivers in a particular street who were complaining that it was too narrow and that three of them had had doors ripped off. Still not one of them considered the possibility of checking to see if it was safe before flinging their car door open. It was all Someone Elses Fault.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  23. splitshift
    Member

    The tw*t in the white Mercedes at the bottom of salmon inn road, nearly edinburgh, falkirk that central belt suburb, who decided to indicate right, then turn left to sneak out and around, however the use of mirrors was clearly optional, as I was rapidly approaching near side! Stopped banged on boot, all very quickly, out of car, pink tie swinging, ya ya ya , I was in front, blah blah!
    Oh how I love when I know which garage you work for! , and which owners club forum to post on !!!! Keep wearing your name badge, which even states which sales department you work for!!! Because I can :!)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  24. wingpig
    Member

    Several combination MGIF/left-hooks on the way home yesterday: the first from an AAA Coaches coach, which steamed acceleratingly past along Castle Terrace, then turned up Johnstone Terrace from the wrong lane as they didn't have space/time to get into the left lane. Slightly later, an impatient wee white van steamed past at excessive speed on the Cowgate just before South Bridge before slowing and turning up Blackfriars Street - this may have been the van which first impatiently overtook right at the start of Castle Terrace, which then blocked the ASL on Lady Lawson Street insufficiently well to prevent me using it. Some sort of car steamed impatiently past on the Canongate (having had their ire stoked by having to wait behind me and several other stationary vehicles at the new pelican crossing) before pulling over to park a short distance later.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  25. c30c60
    Member

    Following on from the GoGoVision lorry + generator sideswipe. I emailed, then Tweeted, then finally today Fbk Message'd the company, which got a fast response:

    "This is the first time this has been brought to my attention. I can only apologise. The driver in question has now been relieved of his position with our company. I apologise again for this incident."

    I don't expect somebody to lose their job over a single anonymously-reported incident, and I wonder what the full story was.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  26. Frenchy
    Member

    Wow, certainly an emphatic response.

    Quite possible the driver had a history.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  27. jonty
    Member

    Or quite possible the driver was only really seasonally employed for the Fringe?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  28. c30c60
    Member

    Previous form or casually-employed were my guesses too. Either way, he didn't seem fit to be in charge of the vehicle.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  29. Frenchy
    Member

    Posted a couple of months ago about being hit by an apple which was thrown from a car. Found out today that the car had been stolen from the forecourt of a garage, and the thieves have been captured (police officer's word). The thieves wouldn't admit who was driving and who was the passenger at the time, which means that neither could be charged with the assault, but both will be charged with the theft.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  30. Frenchy
    Member

    Cycled through the city centre around 6 o'clock tonight, which was a mistake.

    Overtaken twice on Princes Street whilst in the right hand lane (but riding left of the tram tracks).

    Tailgating buses on Princes St.

    Taxi squeezed past with about a foot of space in the contraflow northbound on Leith Street, then turned left in front of me without indicating.

    Driver going up Broughton Street on his phone. When stopped at lights, asked him not to use his phone whilst driving. He was most confused.

    etc.

    etc.

    etc.

    Posted 7 years ago #

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