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  1. biketrain
    Member

    Is this the company you mentioned?

    CHAPS

    Could not see any van pictures.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  2. kaputnik
    Moderator

    If it is CHAPS, based on their companies house listing it's a local father and son outfit;

    https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/SC421120/officers

    If you happened to be passing either of the registered address this evening I'm sure the van would be there to get the registration.

    A small white Vauxhall CHAPS van clearly visible on Streetview here registration V469 HFS. Although that was in 2012 so it may have been replaced since then.

    The 2014 photo of their other address has a white Citroen van outside (with a heavily abused windscreen and dashboard) but it's not branded and the reg has been partially obscured by Google, SOxx MMF.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  3. ejstubbs
    Member

    I think that may be the same van from which a wee lad in the passenger seat shouted unwarranted abuse at me as it overtook me when I was cycling up South Charlotte Street a couple of years back.

    I blame the parents.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  4. ARobComp
    Member

    Massive Luton van passed incredibly close passing dreghorn barracks earlier today during that ridiculous downpour. I was very unhappy about this fact!

    Posted 2 months ago #
  5. piosad
    Member

    Roseburn Place at downpour/home time even more awash with rat-runners than usual (how is it so difficult to stick a bollard in the middle of that street? irrespective of what's happening with the CCWEL or whatever they call it now, it'd just make the whole place so much more pleasant) leaving no space on the eastbound lane. Particular credit goes to the genius who came off the main road at Tesco, tried to go down Roseburn Place, saw the queue and reversed back out to join the queue on Roseburn Street, swelling the queue of those turning right while they waited for him to complete the manoeuvre.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  6. Frenchy
    Member

    Driver of "Chimney Maintenance" van (SM52 XYB) repeatedly beeping the horn and shouting "Get tae the left, ye *****" as I took primary past parked cars going up Mayfield Road.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  7. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I was very naughty. Refused to yield to the car crossing into my lane coming off Middle Meadow Walk on the green light onto Forest Road. Everyone knows they have right of way due to their weight.

    Chapped the boy's window.

    Drivist: 'You came through that light on black. Green. Red!'

    IWRATS:'Have you been drinking Sir?'

    Drivist:'Eh no, did I do something wrong?'

    Posted 2 months ago #
  8. Frenchy
    Member

    car crossing into my lane coming off Middle Meadow Walk on the green light onto Forest Road. Everyone knows they have right of way due to their weight.

    Horribly common. Often without even a glance at what's in the left hand lane before driving into it.

    Meadows-George St link is one of the Community Links+ bids, and would hopefully improve this, if it is chosen. I believe the winner will be announced next week.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  9. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Horribly common. Often without even a glance

    Aye, but the lane divider is worn to invisibility. Not their fault. And they have such momentum.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  10. friskiffla
    Member

    @IWRATS

    I have experienced that situation at MMW/Forrest Road on many occasions. To the point where last week I was frustrated enough to email the Council about it (something I don't often do). I've not had a response.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  11. Frenchy
    Member

    @friskiffla - Good work. Did you contact a councillor or council officer?

    Posted 2 months ago #
  12. algo
    Member

    there used to be a video on youtube posted by a driver coming from Teviot Place to Forrest Road complaining that the cyclist coming from MMW to Forrest Road had run a red light. The driver deliberately close passed them. I and a few others corrected him but the video has since been taken down it seems which is a shame. It's indicative of both the fact that it is not clear to drivers there is a shared green phase there, and also that when it comes to cyclists it seems to be fair game to endanger someone's life because you perceive them to have transgressed - even if you are demonstrably wrong.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  13. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @friskiffla

    I may do the same, hopeless though it is. The simple solution is a physical pedestrian-permeable barrier between the two lanes for ten metres but they'd just drive into and over that.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

  15. nedd1e_h
    Member

    Regards exiting MMW onto Forrest Rd, I've come to the conclusion that's its best wait for a gap in traffic and cross to the island, whether or not the toucan light for bikes is green.

    Then wait for a gap in the traffic approaching from Lauriston Pl. Usually you get to go before the traffic coming from Bristo starts, or at least in the dead-time between the light change.

    Sorry for my RLJs. But "you gotta do what you gotta do"

    Posted 2 months ago #
  16. wingpig
    Member

    Seeing as MMW is a road-not-for-cars rather than a cycle path, the red light at the top means a red light, so my personal legal high ground retention paradigm requires me to obey it, then wait in the Lauriston Place feeder road (not the island, as it's tiny and criss-crossed by pedestrians) for a gap in the traffic from Teviot Place into which to insert myself.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  17. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I take the @wingpig line. It shouldn't be necessary jump red lights to be safe on what is after all the jewel in the crown of south Edinburgh infrastructure.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  18. toomanybikes
    Member

    Holyrood Park 20mph road. Strava says I was doing 42-45kph

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    Posted 2 months ago #
  19. dougal
    Member

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-41301405

    Top deck of bus gets sheared off (with passengers on board) at Western General. Seems kinda odd. The WGH bus will have a fixed route - what happened today?

    Posted 2 months ago #
  20. hunnymonster
    Member

    The driver failed to see the warning sign that clearance was 12'0" (and connect that information to the notice inside the cab telling him his vehicle is 14’9").

    I should be in the collision investigation team with those skills :)

    Posted 2 months ago #
  21. Frenchy
    Member

    The WGH bus will have a fixed route - what happened today?

    That road (called Hospital Main Drive on OSM) isn't on the normal 113 route, which goes along Porterfield Road.

    Most likely driver made a wrong turning?

    Posted 2 months ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Mr Kennedy, who lives in Dalkeith, said it looked as though the driver could have gone on to the site through the wrong entrance.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/eight-injured-after-bus-hits-bridge-at-western-general-1-4562626

    Posted 2 months ago #
  23. Nelly
    Member

    Was at hospital visiting dad and saw this. Due to the position of the shear approx top of seatback, it would have been terrifying for anyone on top deck.

    Sincerely hope those injured are not serious.

    Lucky it was a Sunday, prob not packed bus.

    Definite wrong turn error, it is lodged just before the Maggies Centre if that helps.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  24. nedd1e_h
    Member

    @toomanybikes

    That's one for the police. They must've been doing over 40mph.

    Needs to be stopped before they kill someone

    Posted 2 months ago #
  25. Blueth
    Member

    Ref the Polish driver's employer not having been informed, this merely shows a lack of, or lack of adherence to, a company procedure for checking licences, which should be in place. HSE will have a field day.

    My employer had a system whereby all licences were to be checked annually by line management. Needless to say it seldom happened. Had managers realised that they could be held personally accountable for the consequences they might have been keener to do their job, but the organisation did not train them accordingly.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  26. glasgow megasnake
    Member

    Number 37 bus drives straight over advanced stop line on liberton gardens at liberton drive crossroads. As I arrive at the bike box, I knock on his window and point this out, mentioning that the space would be useful for me, on my bike. The response? 'Yeah but they aren't 24 hr are they?'. Either a) ignorant or b) nasty liar.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  27. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @glasgow megasnake

    Contact Lothian Buses? They're really good on that stuff - just say it's a training issue you don't want the dude sacked or anything.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  28. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I will call all of these in from now on.

    Dear Scottish Traffic Commissioners,

    As I was heading to work this morning I saw the driver of a coach liveried as 'The Wee Red Bus' talking to his passengers whilst in motion southbound on South Clerk Street about 08h45.

    https://www.heartofscotlandtours.co.uk/

    As I understand it this is illegal.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1981/14/section/24

    allows for a fine of level 2 on the standard scale (£500) should any driver fail to follow these regulations;

    http://legislation.data.gov.uk/uksi/1990/1020/made/data.htm?wrap=true

    (1) A driver shall not, when a vehicle is in motion, hold a microphone or any attachment thereto unless it is necessary for him, either in an emergency or on grounds of safety, to speak into the microphone.

    (2) Subject to paragraph (3), a driver shall not, when a vehicle is in motion, speak to any person either directly or by means of a microphone.

    The driver seemed to have a microphone strapped to his chest and was addressing the passengers, clearly not giving his full attention to the road. Do you think you could have a stern word with this company's Transport Manager on behalf of the vulnerable road users of Edinburgh?

    Thanks in advance,

    IWRATS

    Posted 2 months ago #
  29. Snowy
    Member

    Good point IWRATS. The whole Driver-Guide system is highly dodgy on safety grounds. Sadly, it's not even a hypothetical issue, noting the recent fatality involving a tram-track and a closely-following tour bus driver.

    Yet these firms are still advertising for Driver-Guides? (other tour companies are available)

    Several friends of mine did this very job for years. I don't think any of them were ever made aware by their employers that this legislation even existed.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  30. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Snowy

    I am following @Morningsider's view on @Tulyar's pointing out the law in light of Ms Soh's death.

    One of the Edinburgh Sustrans Cycling Officers' partners is a part-time driver/guide. Mad old world, innit?

    Posted 2 months ago #

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