and I suspect she may be getting the bus shortly once dealt with by the courts.”
I bet she won't. }:-(
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Today's rubbish driving...
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Lots of terrible driving in Loanhead at the moment. Traffic lights in centre of town being replaced, with temp ones causing big delays. Lots of cars taking the chance and going the wrong way down a one way street to dodge it. A real shame that they didn't notice the police car turning up to ticket them...
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@IWRATS good sketch! Limmy certainly used to be a cyclist, athough I don't remember seeing him Tweet about it lately.
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Aye, rides a Triban 540 in his jeans. Limmy is my poster boy for integrating cycling into everyday mental health care.
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Aye, rides a Triban 540 in his jeans.
They're stretchier than I thought.
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really loved how that woman has absorbed motivational-speak.
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Today is Leave Your Brain At Home Friday.
In the short stretch in Linlithgow between the Tesco and the Oracle campus, I received:
* several instances of aggressive tailgating/horn-honking
* two MGIF overtakes on a blind summit
* several bog standard close passes
* two aggressive MGIFs just before a traffic island
* two definitive punishment passes where the passer or passenger shouts abuse for as long as possible before and after the passOne was a liveried white van for a roofing company. R Stewart maybe? I have already forgotten all the details. The whole thing quickly becomes a blur of stupidity.
Maybe if drivers could get lessons in how to drive safely, you know like Bikeability but for cars? And if they paid taxes rather than being massively subsidised for their transport. Maybe then they would learn how to behave.
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What do people think of this?
What I see in that dashcam footage is the driver not stopping until after he'd pulled to the left towards the jogger and the jogger had given his mirror a slap. He didn't "stop to avoid the jogger" - he changed direction towards the jogger, and then stopped after the jogger expressed his displeasure at the manoeuvre. OK, the jogger should perhaps not have reacted in the way he did, but the footage hardly "exonerates" the driver - he chose to endanger the more vulnerable road user by moving towards him, rather than waiting for the oncoming car to go by and passing the pedestrian at a safe distance.
(He also looks like a smugly self-righteous old tw@, but that's by the by.)
Then again, this happened near Stevenage where the car is king - despite the town itself having been provided with a segregated network of cycle paths from the get-go: https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/sep/19/britains-1960s-cycling-revolution-flopped-stevenage
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He pulled in as was a car coming in the other direction. I have jogged along the long Dalmahoy road often and single roads in the borders, used run 10 miles a day years ago, if a car is coming toward should possibly have checked its clear behind if jogging on the "wrong side" of the road. A pedestrian would walk against the traffic a cyclists in direction of travel when running if any good will be closer speed of cyclists 10 mph. The highway code treats a pedestrian the same if running or walking if run as someone walks expect to have to stop sometimes if travelling at nearer the speed of a bike.
When jogging many runners think should jog in the direction of travel if do don’t have that problem. Personally I used to often jog on the wrong side of the road as the man in the video it safer but if do this then have to expect to be stopped sometimes.
I am guessing the jogger in the video just through the driver pull in the way to take the piss not realising the routine
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@ejstubbs I agree with your analysis. Had I been the jogger (not that I jog, but I could find myself in a comparable situation when walking), then I would have probably just slapped the door or 'waved' at them.
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“Never in my right mind would I jog on that narrow road,” said Vic, a former professional driver.
A "professional driver" - that explains a lot
“It’s too dangerous. There’s just about room for two cars to pass each other.”
When you are driving a voluminous 4x4, yes.
Vic came around a blind bend to see the jogger
The language in the article here: he just happened to "come around". => So actually he was going far too fast round a blind bend.
Vic turned the car around and drove after the jogger... Following a brief confrontation...
Yeah, we can all guess in what manner you drove back towards the jogger, after he had dared to touch your precious motor. No doubt you deleted the footage of that bit
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What I see in that dashcam footage is the driver not stopping until after he'd pulled to the left towards the jogger and the jogger had given his mirror a slap. He didn't "stop to avoid the jogger" - he changed direction towards the jogger, and then stopped after the jogger expressed his displeasure at the manoeuvre.
Agreed. He also had plenty of time to have slowed down as the jogger is clearly visible on the bend well before the other vehicle is. He also come extremely close to the jogger.Still, decent law-abiding driver etc. Wing mirrors are worth much more than the puny lives of people who aren't driving.
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Guy driving a quad bike at about 50mph to overtake a car at a traffic island on Gilmerton Road. Still, he had the decency to display a number plate while he was at it so I passed that to Poileas Alba.
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Looking at the very end of the video, just before it cuts, it looks as though he's gone to make a 3-point turn right in the middle of that blind bend!
There's no other reason for him to start pulling aggressively to the right as he sets off again.
The article (and Vic) makes out the jogger shouldn't have been there, as he was on some sort of 'dangerous' leisure activity. But perhaps he was using the road to get to work and running was his means of transport?
Wrong on so many levels
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I wonder if Heidi Alexander has seen this - perhaps she'd like to table a motion to have more stringent laws controlling people using their legs as a mode of transport.
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@nedd1e_h your suspicions are confirmed 'Vic turned the car around and drove after the jogger to try to get an explanation. Following a brief confrontation he decided to leave it at that and went home.'
He presumably chose to turn in the 'narrow', 'dangerous' road twice!
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Guy driving a quad bike at about 50mph to overtake a car at a traffic island on Gilmerton Road. Still, he had the decency to display a number plate while he was at it so I passed that to Poileas Alba.
Good work. That the one near Morrison's? Seen motorcyclists pull similar manoeuvres there.
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That the one near Morrison's?
Yeah, been blatting round like a doorknob for a couple of weeks now. Enough's enough.
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Nice work, iwrats. Pretty sure that'll be the same doorknob (or at least vehicle) I've heard stoorying about the 'hood.
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Nothing dangerous, but just very annoying.
Coming down to the Kirkliston traffic lights a white van was trundling at walking pace about 20 yds from the entrance to the ASB when the lights turned red. The driver didn't brake, but ended up trundling on, coming to a stop a good 5-10 seconds later with his back wheels beyond the exit from the ASB. Probably just done to stop a Cyclist filtering in front of him.
Promptly decided to dismount and walk across at the pedestrian lights and get on my way well before he could move again.
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Spotted a neighbour doing the "if I hold my phone by my right leg whilst I text, no one will notice" thing on my way home today.
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Some really diabolical driving this morning. First a chap who takes my signalling left to turn into the nursery driveway (avec passenger) as a cue to rev up and close pass to race to the red light. Then a left hook at Polwarth Church by a white van who was behind at the lights and so had to actually go around me, encroaching on half of the opposite lane as they were literally turning right after the manoeuvre. A couple of unnecessary close passes on the way to the King's junction, followed by a very aggressive overtake from a standing start at the junction itself from the car behind me, which then sped up Leven Street as if the devil was in hot pursuit. Jeezo.
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Not today, but Saturday evening. I was heading down Craiglockart Avenue looking to turn left along Lanark Road. There was a slightly longer than normal queue waiting to turn right towards Slateford station. Black BMW pulls out of second spot in right-turning queue - which was held at the lights - and instead turns left at the green filter. OK so far, all done safely and with appropriate signals. Big merc SUV in fourth spot then does the same - except it then turns right from the left-hand lane, across the front of the right-turning queue, and against the red light.
Genuine "WTF?" moment.
Not helped by the fact that the merc driver had left it a bit late to change lanes, forcing me to slow down to avoid their family minibus (with one person on board).
Thought I had it all on camera but turned out the poor thing was having a bad day and/or couldn't be bothered...
(That road does seem to get more than its fair share of very poor driving when the junction at the bottom clogs up. I once sat in disbelief watching twenty or more cars and vans driving down the pavement on the left in order to get past a long tailback of right-turning traffic.)
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(Aka today’s rubbish car owners)
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15656752.Three_day_clamping_blitz_on_untaxed_Edinburgh_motorists/
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Cracker today. Going up Minto Street and notice a lady waving her arms at me as she overtakes. Caught her up at the lights.
'You came shooting out of Cameron Toll and now I'm on the wrong road!'
Off she goes. Caught her at the next three lights, chapped her window each time.
'Madam your conduct is erratic and I don't believe you are in full control of this vehicle. Have you been drinking?'
Just about had her in tears, felt like a bit of a psycho but there you go. Had enough of that kind of tosh. She eventually made one of the forbidden right turns on the way into town.
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'You came shooting out of Cameron Toll and now I'm on the wrong road!'
I...uh...um...what the...how?
Congratulations on such a coherent response!
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I...uh...um...what the...how?
Yeah, me too. She may have been a bit mad, was certainly anxious. I really don't think she should have been driving.
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MGIF, even if there might be stuff coming the other way around a blind-ish sharp bend:
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Blue Golf confidently driving eastbound - ie the wrong way - out of Rose Street this evening, across the junction with Castle Street (no way out that way at the moment, of course) and continuing along the next bit of Rose Street towards Frederick Street, apparently oblivious to the big round sign with the white horizontal bar on a red background (very seasonal) that they drove past in doing so...
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