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  • Started 13 years ago by Stepdoh
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  1. Frenchy
    Member

    Kingsway West appears in this 1937 map: http://maps.nls.uk//view/82884783

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. sallyhinch
    Member

    Overtaken by a van driver on a bend, who then slowed down and moved left to negotiate a speed cushion, apparently oblivious to the fact that I was still there, not quite overtaken yet. He then pulled in outside the same shop I was heading for, didn't find a parking space so drove right onto the pavement diagonally from the corner, across the dropped kerb.

    I got to the door of the shop first, naturally, thought about saying something like 'that was a bit of a squeeze there' but having seen his parking performance, decided against. I even held the door for him, although I did think about starting to pull it closed as he was half way through to see how he liked it. I don't think he even registered I was the cyclist he had passed 30 seconds before

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. gembo
    Member

    @sallyhinch, that would have tested my zen. I was close to losing t with the various taxis on Friday but employed very powerful mindfulness techniques

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. sallyhinch
    Member

    It was cowardice as much as anything kept me quiet, TBH. I couldn't see the conversation ending well and I wasn't frightened enough to raise it out of anger.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. gembo
    Member

    Always wise and zen like to pick our battles

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. algo
    Member

    11 this morning (Sunday) - in theory the road should be shut to traffic. This looks like nothing - but it was really scary to pass at this speed this close. I was going lamentably slowly admittedly but I did not enjoy this at all (EF17 YRT)

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    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. Snowy
    Member

    Grr. There's a good example of someone who simply does not give a toss about anyone except himself. That's a max of 18 inches between the bike and the wing mirror. EF17 YRT ? Report...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. Frenchy
    Member

    @algo, you appear to have had a police officer witness the pass as well!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @algo

    Drop a dime on that dirtbag. Police matter without a doubt.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. unhurt
    Member

    Too close and wayyyy too fast. Ergh.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. gembo
    Member

    If car not meant to be in the park won't they do him or her for that too?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. rider73
    Member

    @iwrats "dirtbag" - are you really Clint Eastwood behind that name?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  13. sallyhinch
    Member

    Clearly the driver wasn't fooled by the police outfit for some reason ...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @iwrats "dirtbag"

    Is the idiom not colloquial for this part of the planet's surface?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. Stickman
    Member

    It's sad that your daughter already has the resigned look of "another close pass" but the start of the video when she's looking around her nonchalantly made me smile.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  16. HankChief
    Member

    I'd be tempted to tweet that to Historic Scotland and copy in all & sundry

    Posted 6 years ago #
  17. GDR
    Member

    @algo I remember passing you at the start of the climb ( on my bike). I said hello. I remember this car racing past. Also on the descent a green/blue Volvo estate hammering past. Almost caught it up at the Commie Pool. Wanted to ask how the 20 limit was working for him. Anyway I found myself thinking again why is this road not shut on Sunday and why is the speed limit ever ever enforced in the park. I have had too many high speed close passes in what should bea leisure facility.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  18. redmist
    Member

    I thought the climb up Queens Drive was shut on a Sunday ? I remember the barriers at the bottom being closed, is this no longer the case ?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  19. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Terrible pass algo. Doubt the polis will do anything though given past episodes.

    "11 this morning (Sunday) - in theory the road should be shut to traffic."

    "I thought the climb up Queens Drive was shut on a Sunday ?"

    Am confused by this - it may occasionally be closed for events, but the High Road otherwise remains open as far as I'm aware. From the (mis)managers' website (my emphasis):

    "Park roads
    Sunday road closures
    All roads in the park (except the High Road and to access car parks) are closed every Sunday, from:

    8.30am, re-open for 6pm in summer (late March/early April until late October)
    8.30am, re-open for 4pm in winter (late October until late March/early April)
    The High Road is also closed every night in winter from 3.30pm and will re-open each morning, if it safe do so, at 8.30am."

    https://www.historicenvironment.scot/visit-a-place/places/holyrood-park/park-roads/

    Posted 6 years ago #
  20. algo
    Member

    Many thanks all for the empathy and understanding. The gate was open at the bottom - I don't know if this means the car was really committing an offence or not. Unfortunately the polis are unlikely to do anything about this given my previous experiences but I may well put it in anyway and will probably follow @HankChief's suggestion (any help as to exactly who "all and sundry" should be welcomed :-))

    @GDR thanks for the greeting - I hope we said hello back - what bike were you riding? I am still recovering from injuring my back so am even slower than usual. I usually find it a very cheery experience going up there - most people overtaking us on bikes and greeting us on the way past, and my lamentable speed meaning we often get into races with people walking up - I am very grateful for this as it usually spurs my daughter on to actual push on the pedals :-)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  21. redmist
    Member

    My mistake, I've not been round Queens Drive on a Sunday for a while. It definitely SHOULD be closed !

    Posted 6 years ago #
  22. Frenchy
    Member

    (any help as to exactly who "all and sundry" should be welcomed :-))

    Historic Environment Scotland seem to operate two main twitter accounts:

    https://twitter.com/HistEnvScot
    https://twitter.com/welovehistory

    The former seems more appropriate for this.

    Councillors:

    https://twitter.com/davidfkeySNP
    https://twitter.com/lmacinnessnp
    https://twitter.com/Alex4Craig_Dudd
    https://twitter.com/joan_griffiths
    https://twitter.com/johnmclellan
    Can't find a twitter account for Cllr Campbell (Lab).

    Constituency MSP:
    https://twitter.com/ashtenRD

    Police:

    https://twitter.com/polscotrpu
    https://twitter.com/EdinPolSE

    Posted 6 years ago #
  23. algo
    Member

    amazing - thanks @Frenchy - I'll get onto this tonight

    Posted 6 years ago #
  24. Snowy
    Member

    Well, with 2 independent witnesses, and video evidence of careless driving, I'm sure the police will be enthusiastic to put it forward for prosecution.

    Right?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  25. GDR
    Member

    @algo you did indeed say hello! I was the rather large person on a titanium kinesis bike. I was wearing a blue jacket. I also always say hello to folk but find it amazing how many people just blank you. I also go fairly slowly so perhaps I am not deemed to be a proper cyclist!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  26. Frenchy
    Member

    Overtaken this evening whilst I was exceeding maintaining the 20mph speed limit on Mayfield Road. Utterly ubiquitous, and not worth posting about, except the vehicle in question was a police car, so presumably was being driven by a police officer

    Posted 6 years ago #
  27. LaidBack
    Member

    @algo - that road should as you say be treated as a privilige for people to use powered vehicles on but sadly the petrolhead community use it as the sunday cross town shortcut. No doubt they blame HS for putting gates across lower road.
    Other users are car assisted dog walkers and loch side picnicers.
    I rarely take people up there as if person is on a trike we have to just keep in middle of road till a lay by gives safe space to go by.
    People though will try and intimidate as it's stressful driving at 6mph when you've got a dog to walk!

    We had a respite when the road got frozen so considered too dangerous to drive. HS kept barriers closed on at least two Sundays in Jan. Cyclists went round barrier and had safer time despite the ice. People also ran and walked away from revving engines.
    For a while it was almost like a park.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  28. Frenchy
    Member

    Close pass from the driver of a bin lorry this morning. I had to slow down significantly, and the driver coming in the other direction actually had to stop to let the bin lorry driver complete his manoeuvre. I was overtaking a stopped bus at the time, and being hemmed in on both sides by large vehicles was rather uncomfortable. Anyone know the appropriate email address to send complaints to?

    Also, lots of drivers hadn't cleared the snow from their vehicles' roofs this morning.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  29. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Frenchy

    Transport Managers for CEC are;

    PATRICK JOSEPH TRAYNOR
    Scott Millar

    at

    38 RUSSELL ROAD, EDINBURGH, EH11 2LP, GB

    They're responsible for the conduct of all the council's LGV drivers.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  30. dougal
    Member

    @Frenchy One of my cycling colleagues got a face full of snow from the roof of a passing car. He was not impressed.

    Posted 6 years ago #

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