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  • Started 13 years ago by Stepdoh
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  1. chdot
    Admin

  2. acsimpson
    Member

    The Lothian buses slalom run has made it to the Beeb.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

  4. rider73
    Member

    @chdot - :) i liked that link. certainly saved a lot of lives as it could have been a major major accident

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. rider73
    Member

    MR 4x4 VOLVO DRIVER - just because you dont want to go in the small car park for the coop dont just stop in the middle of the road in the non snowed bits of the road and put your hazards on to get your effin paper and make the rest of us struggling to get round you.

    ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. Stickman
    Member

    In contrast to the Lothian Buses drivers, Citylink were maintaining their usual low standards this morning. A 900 was being driven murderously close to the car o front along St John's Road. Both drivers were going too fast.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    Sadly, the skills of driving in snow and ice seem to have been lost by a modern generation – much skidding around at totally inappropriate speeds and don't start me on the incompetents in the latest-model cars with spinning wheels failing to do hill starts. I passed quite a few of them in my 1955 Austin A30 at a steady 10mph.

    http://www.broughtonspurtle.org.uk/letters/cold-outside-hot-under-collar

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. steveo
    Member

    Must admit I had an embarassing 5 minutes trying to get out of a space at my Aunties house one wheel on tarmac and one on slush- facing up the hill. Once I remembered to turn off the traction control I managed to coerce it over the lump of ice out of the space and up the hill.

    Still mortified though.

    Traction control plus low speeds had done me fine up until that point to be fair.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. neddie
    Member

    Sadly, the skills of driving in snow and ice seem to have been lost by a modern generation

    And why isn't it mandatory for HGVs to carry snow chains at this time of year?

    Yes, they are difficult to fit. But it's much easier and quicker for each lorry driver to fit the chains when they get stuck and free themselves, than wait for a tow-truck (which may or may not be able to access them) to pick them out one by one.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    Quite shocking standard of driving tonight, numerous close passes, numerous examples of people just driving straight at me from side streets numerous people sticking out from give way and several examples of parking where only half the car was parked and the other half was sticking right out in the road.

    Must have been the snow?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. glasgow megasnake
    Member

    Sadly, the skills of driving in snow and ice seem to have been lost by a modern generation

    I'm not sure how true this is (I cant know, I wasn't there for the 'not-modern' generation).

    But modern cars do have a lot of characteristics that make them harder to drive in snow - chiefly, larger, wider wheels with lower-profile tyres - than older cars (with narrower tyres).

    I think the substantially better isolation from the road that modern cars provide compared to older cars, together with the generally totally lifeless/disconnected electric power steering, and the much higher limits of grip/capability, makes it much easier for drivers to forget about the technical skill of operating a car day-to-day. When they do then require some actual driving skill/mechanical sympathy (when it snows) they are totally lost - hence the 'more throttle = more go' approach people seem to take once they are stuck (and getting stuck in the first place).

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. unhurt
    Member

    @chdot reading on my phone for a moment I didn't realise you were quoting a Spurtle letter. I thought you were going a bit Iwrats on us.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  13. Kenny
    Member

    > Quite shocking standard of driving tonight

    Agreed! This grey van was so desperate to cut in front of myself and the guy in front of me before his lane ended abruptly, I nearly shouted a warning to my fellow cyclist. But it's one of those ones where, looking back at the video, it doesn't seem quite as bad as it seemed at the time...

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    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    "@chdot reading on my phone for a moment I didn't realise you were quoting a Spurtle letter. I thought you were going a bit Iwrats on us."

    John Hein is a well-known troll/nuisance of Spurtleshire and other publications who the Spurtle gives inordinate house room to.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15811396.The____respectable____capital_flat_being_used_to_clean_Europe___s_dirty_money/

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Railtrack-Other-Letters-John-Hein-ebook/dp/B00CMCCHOG

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. gembo
    Member

    A white van did wait for me when I left Evans having failed to fix the Boa button on my specialised winter defroster bootee. Was grateful but the driver behind gave the van a very angry toot.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  16. ARobComp
    Member

    Driving yesterday on main roads was abysmal. Indicators clearly heavily affected by snow as they were barely functioning on most turning cars.

    This morning mostly fine apart from MGIF toyota massive van thing on colinton road who didn't seem able to see the bus pulling out about 20m ahead.

    Other than that just a LOT of traffic. Obviously the kids not that keen to walk to school today... (or any day?)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  17. fimm
    Member

    Rather more snow than I was expecting in Livingston. Traffic moving slowly and mostly fine apart from one idiot in a van who pulled a pass that I'd have grumbled about in good conditions but which was completely unacceptable in the lying, ridged, slushy snow on the road that we were all dealing with.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  18. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Whooshy Mercedes heading west on Gilmore Place at well in excess of 20mph limit which drenched several parties of schoolchildren and their accompanying adults in slush. Is co-opting of @iwrats's ravens possible?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    A second lorry driver involved in a crash on the M1 that killed eight people has been cleared of causing death by dangerous driving.

    David Wagstaff had previously admitted eight counts of the lesser charge of causing death by careless driving.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43320649

    Posted 6 years ago #
  20. Rob
    Member

    Just some basic red light jumping:

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    Posted 6 years ago #
  21. Stickman
    Member

    Driver of black cab 869 on his phone driving down Morrison St.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  22. wingpig
    Member

    Two couldn't-wait-until-after-the-pinch-point passes on Milton Road West yesterday morning.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  23. dessert rat
    Member

    @Stickman - Did you report to licensing@edinburgh.gov.uk

    I always ping them an email

    Posted 6 years ago #
  24. Ed1
    Member

    Well it may have been legal use if was calling 112 or something may be it was a matter of national security -)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  25. ARobComp
    Member

    Blue transit van passing about 10 cm away from me on Henderson Row with an oncoming car and the car in front pulling in to stop at the side of the road. Thankfully I'd not started pulling out to pass that car yet.

    Really pointless MGIF move. Very disappointing. Lots of people on their phones in recent days too.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  26. Stickman
    Member

    Driver of a Rabbie's tour bus speaking on his headset as he drove through Haymarket. Thought that wasn't allowed?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  27. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Stickman

    It is not allowed. I reported them to the Traffic Commissioners, who said it was none of their business and put me on to the DoT who put me on to someone else.

    Basically no one cares. Could try 101 I suppose.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  28. fimm
    Member

    Rubbish overtake no.1: driver on Lanark Road West overtaking on the double white lines and nearly taking out a chap on a motorscooter coming the other way, who was invisible to the driver because of the little hill. That's why there are double white lines there...

    Rubbish overtake no.2: driver pulled out to overtake me on the corners at the top of Balerno and had to jam on the brakes when a car appeared from the opposite direction. That's why there are double white lines there, too. They may have been bullied into it by the driver of the monster white car behind who likes using their horn.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    “It is not allowed”

    But is it illegal?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  30. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    But is it illegal?

    Yes. But that doesn't matter unless someone's willing to enforce the law. I guess it is actually a 101 call?

    Posted 6 years ago #

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