It’s a bit of strata mentality seeing the public road as somewhere to try and beat other people’s records, if focusing on a record may take extra risks like strata this type of behaviour should not be encouraged
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Today's rubbish driving...
(11330 posts)- Started 13 years ago by Stepdoh
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I can't believe I'm now going to have to make a stand and throw out all of my copies of the Cannonball Run.
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Can't find the nice drivers thread.
2 white vans today held up the traffic and flashed at me to indicate I could get across a busy junction.
1 white van driver shouted at me from Corstorphine Road. I was standing on the pavement, holding on to the velo and checking my watch. Can't see how I had offended him - unless it was by not wearing a helmet.Posted 6 years ago # -
Livid. White van driver turned into the side street I was more than half way across (so I was in the half of the street they were turning into). Van was easily in touching distance.
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Got an actual paper letter from Police Scotland to say they'd spoken to their employee about the driving I reported on their webform.
Technology, customer care etc.
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“First and foremost, this road hasn’t been fit for purpose for some time and is not viable,” Mr Cole-Hamilton said.
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I agree with ACH that Maybury Road isn't serving much of a purpose other than a race track/traffic reservoir and perhaps some average speed cameras on both Maybury Road and Drive would help. However he seems to have ignored the fact that this tragic incident was caused by a criminal driving a stolen car on false plates.
Perhaps what we need is more ANPR sites around the city which can be used to track the movement of cars like this.
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Close the road until it can be proven that no death will ever happen again.
Oh wait, no...
Because cars...
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Mr Cole-Hamiliton reminds me of Mr Kilroy-Silk. Great photograph.
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@neddie, indeed. This isn't a work place where health and safety would apply you know. Three fatal crashes within a 1 mile stretch in just over 10 years is apparently acceptable.
Given that there are already mid-term plans afoot to reduce this stretch to 30mph and introduce multiple new junctions I suspect ACH is (unfortunately) flogging a dead horse on this one. If the council were going to do anything then replacing the surplus lane with a cycle lane would have a far greater effect than speed cameras.
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A contender for today's award must surely be the person who managed to put a small Hyundai on its roof on a 20mph road just off Ravelston Dykes this afternoon. Skid marks on the pavement and glass in the gutter (kindly rubbernecking neighbours came out with brooms and bins). Small son was keen to see the flashing lights of recovery truck and police car so we went to have a look.
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Impatient idiot driver in a coach this evening kept on encroaching into the bike lane when overtaking going up the mound. No point him overtaking anyway when there was such a jam.
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Spectacularly careless driving even for NWH by skip-truck T5 NWH on South Gyle Crescent at 0830. Pulled out and didn't look or didn't even slow. Seemed puzzled later when I caught up with him and bellowed afresh.
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Waiting for a red light on foutainbridge last night a filtering motorbike pulled alongside me despite there not being space. Then when the lights changed he bullied his way into the centre of the lane at my expense. Bit annoying but nothing terrible.
Round the corner onto Semple Street, there is the usual bus sitting in the stand there so I pull right to pass. Pass finished, shoulder check to move back into the lane. Argh! - same bike is passing me on inside about 30cm from my back wheel. Abandon manoeuvre with a hearty FFS and he carries on. Round the corner though turns out he is so aggrieved by my reaction has actually stopped and got off his bike. Pull up to say (a) don't undertake me and (b) you were far too close. But apparently it was my fault - I didn't do a shoulder check!? ARGH! But Good Sir, if I hadn't checked we would both be picking ourselves up from the road right now? No, you didn't check just like all cyclists AARRRRRGH!!
Mood this morning still quite Arrgh.
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Argh! - same bike is passing me on inside about 30cm from my back wheel.
Very annoying. I was undertaken by a cyclists last week and it's the last thing you expect.
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Very annoying. I was undertaken by a cyclists last week and it's the last thing you expect.
Same thing happened to me yesterday by an Uber Eats delivery guy. I'd slowed down to let traffic in front sort itself out when my left shoulder was brushed by undertaking cyclist who wasn't looking at the carnage that was going on ahead and were about to insert themselves into.
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I was undertaken by a PHV yesterday as I crossed from Dewar Place to Gardner's Crescent. No surprise that when I got round the corner he was parked up on the pavement presumably waiting for his fare, so time saved would have been about 3 seconds.
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Yesterday evening, round about 6pm, I observed in rapid succession:
- Taxi driver executing an illegal right turn from Coates Crescent in to Shandwick Place (westbound);
- Second taxi driver executing an illegal right turn from Canning Street into Shandwick Place (eastbound), apparently in his haste failing to observe the cyclist approaching from his right. Either that he just didn't GAF.(Perhaps these should be on the 'grumpy taxi driver thread'. Certainly neither seemed particularly happy with their lot. Not exactly the cheeky grinning outlaw type, at any rate. More like utterly fed up and several light years past giving a damn about the rest of the world.)
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Scottish Conservative transport spokesman Jamie Greene said: “It’s welcome that Scotland is finally entering a common sense approach to low-level speeding.
“For too long, the punishments for minor infringements have been far too severe, creating an impression of an anti-motorist agenda. These more sensible measures will help repair the damage.”
Neil Greig, of driving training body IAM Roadsmart told the Daily Record: “We welcome the idea of a range of penalties.”
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Will they go back if it doesn't work?
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Blue Volve SJ11UWA decides that a recumbent handcycle really must be going slowly so decides to overtake even though I'm going 17-18 mph in the 20 mph limit on Station Road outside Queensferry High School.
If they'd actually accelerated past it wouldn't have been a problem but crawling past at 22 mph as I got faster with the road dropping away meant we all got to the parked cars and speed bumps at the same time. I had to brake and follow them all the way to the B907, I suppose at least they weren't speeding much but still, what is it that drivers feel they MUST overtake a 'cycle whatever speed it is going?Posted 6 years ago # -
People over taking at 20 mph may be a bad idea probably safer if they went past at 25 then back to 20.
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#7 bus mounted pavement and crashed into Koyama on Forrest Rd last night!
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Someone transporting what looked like their elderly mother appeared to be waiting behind the give you any line at one of the raised table Montgomery Street cross-streets on Saturday afternoon, only to decide to advance as I was right in front of them. Fortunately, I stuck to "eyes open, please" only to be huffily informed "she said sorry!" by the passenger in the back seat, then snottily asked something about a helmet by the driver after I'd ridden past.
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"...most important..."
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I'm failing to see anywhere in that article that the new-driver crashes are on motorways. I expect most of them are urban accidents where not everyone is going in the same direction at the same speed.
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I've always been a bit dubious about this so-called "problem" of learner drivers not being allowed on motorways. They're allowed on non-motorway class dual carriageways which have the same 70mph limit but which are, if anything, more risky than proper m-ways - not having a continuous hard shoulder, often less generous slip roads and very often roundabouts and even traffic lights.
There are places in the UK where learners do not have ready access to motorways *or* dual carriageways. Do they burst into flames the minute they encounter one of these new-fangled highways?
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i'm sure i read that a lot of new/young driver crashes were in rural areas, possibly related to high speeds on small roads. i do not understand the logic behind the speed allocations in this country--where i come from, outside of urban areas, every road has it's own marked limit.
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As I'm going down Polwarth Gardens at home time at a reasonable speed (it *is* downhill), I'm overtaken by a faster cyclist before we leave the pinch point. Fair enough. I move a bit to the left, which is all the encouragement needed for a silver PHV following the cyclist to bully me out of the way with a close pass. Five seconds later I filter past them as they join the tail of the queue at the Polwarth Church lights. Lights switch on, cue much annoyed revving and another close pass. Two seconds later, I pass them again as the traffic is backed up from Gray's Loan. I thought driving was all about predicting what's going to happen in the next few seconds?
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