CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Debate!

  1. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    I'm seriously tempted to do this once I eventually get a rack for my bike: http://www.happycyclist.org/?p=1943

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. piosad
    Member

    I haven't done the thing with the sideways flag (quite impractical through chicanes and, er, the King's Junction), but how depressing that his experience with the tagalong is the same as mine. Even with a bright orange (upright) flag somehow tailgating and close-passing a four-year old is something people apparently find acceptable.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. wingpig
    Member

    I expect an extra brake/gear lever on the handlebars and a bit of crude mechanical bodging could create a pair of flags to the rear which would extend laterally and horizontally at rest but which could be temporarily pulled upright for passing through chicanes/filtering/parking...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. miak
    Member

    Ive thought about this before .... needs an electronic retract and extend function on right and left .(and not the union flag...maybe an image of a bike. I am consulting with the engineering team..

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. Arellcat
    Moderator

    This morning, the learner driver who stopped halfway into the ASL box on Liberton Road at the big Lady Road/Esslemont Road/Craigmillar Park junction.

    Considering she was with her instructor at the time I wasn't hugely impressed. The car, SD12OXL, had a "DTS" sign on the roof, but I've been unable to find a local firm of that name.

    Under what circumstances should a learner find themselves in a situation whereby they encroach on an ASL? I thought driving was about anticipation.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. Frenchy
    Member

    Impatient driver of a Range Rover went the wrong side of a traffic island to overtake me this morning. A mile later they were still only 50m ahead of me, so that was definitely worth it.

    Also a PHC driver who stopped with the nose of their car well into the cycle lane on Old Dalkeith Road, then drove right into the ASL box on a red light 20s later.

    @Arellcat - could it have been "DTC"?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. Arellcat
    Moderator

    @Frenchy, I don't think it was DTC, but I may be mistaken. Capital letters in white on red, in a gentle but chunky serif typeface Kaputnik would probably avoid. I will keep my peepers peeled.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. Moose
    Member

    Impatient tailgating and needlessly close pass from white faux-sports golf CX14 UHP on the lanark road west.
    Followed by a loss of control of the car and the mounting of a kerb with a small child cycling on it (at 30mph at least).

    I have head cam footage of the tw*t. Does Police Scotland have any method of accepting it?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. Stickman
    Member

    @Moose: report it via 101

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. Ed1
    Member

  11. Ed1
    Member

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44924244

    Of course not a car but its interesting how manslaughter offense is used in non road related accidents

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. wingpig
    Member

    One car with a big fresh scrape along one side and another with its front smashed against a wall on Constitution Street this morning - beware of little bits of glass and plastic. The police were asking the drivers about it when I went past.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    Police and paramedics were called to Constitution Street at 8.25am close to the junction with Links Lane.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/road-blocked-after-two-car-smash-in-leith-1-4775617

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. ARobComp
    Member

    Big Elliots non hazardous waste lorry coming from George IVth Bridge down to Hanover street to turn right onto Queen Street. No actual incidents but only because there was no vulnerable road users unlucky enough to come near him.

    Fast lane changes, driving like he was in a little car not a huge lorry trying to dive through gaps and not considering road positioning. Driving like that in a city centre in a lorry is reason enough for a caution I would have hoped but no chance.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. Stickman
    Member

    Driver of red VW Beetle C10 BAG staring at her phone as she sped along St John's Road.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

  17. Frenchy
    Member

    Nice cameo from someone carrying a bike on the front of their bike in that video.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. biketrain
    Member

    Car being driven along entire length of BUS lane on M90 Southbound on Friday night. Not sure what part 'BUS LANE, painted on the road at frequent intervals, they failed to understand.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. miak
    Member

    The deliveroo cyclist should get himself down to cyclelaw. Will help with his student loan

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. Stickman
    Member

    @Ragingbike: good shout - wonder if he's aware of it and if not how to tell him?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  21. edinburgh87
    Member

    Is it just me or does anyone else object to the use of the phrase "taken out" in the EEN headline? Surely had it been a pedestrian getting driven at/over it would come over as quite crass to see a headline
    like "Pedestrian taken out by car", as if it's some sort of action filled game..

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/edinburgh-deliveroo-rider-taken-out-by-car-in-newington-1-4776067

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. the canuck
    Member

    yeah, that is poor language.
    like they're trying to make the paper more exciting.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    Not Edinburgh, but.... https://twitter.com/CyclingMikey/status/1024654472738484226

    Truck driver on route to a truck / cycle awareness thing almost runs over two cyclists. Sigh.

    EDIT: Ok, it turns out this was a different day. Say truck, but different day. Nothing to see here!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. Kenny
    Member

    Got a "sorry mate, I didn't see you" on the way home last night. I'm really not entirely sure how I'm supposed to respond to that, tbh. Every time I've heard it (and the guy yesterday truly was sympathetic and apologetic in the way he said it), I'm generally speechless, wondering if I'm supposed to just say "ah ok! no worries then mate, carry on", or what.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. fimm
    Member

    Man driving small red car pulls unnecessary overtake in order to get to the back of a traffic queue before me. He then has to jam on the brakes in order to avoid crashing into a bollard. I then filter down on the left of the car and see that he's using a mobile phone. So I park my bike in front of the car until he puts it down.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    “So I park my bike in front of the car until he puts it down.”

    Well done, that takes some courage!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  27. fimm
    Member

    Courage? Not really, we were all stationary in a traffic queue at that point. I got a bit cross and slapped the bonnet of the car, which I didn't need to do... he put the phone down quite quickly so then I gestured for him to drive off which he did; I didn't want him behind me in his tonne of dangerous machinery.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  28. Frenchy
    Member

    Had a wee argument with someone the other day when I asked them to put their phone away.

    They told me that I should be paying attention to what's in front of me whilst cycling. [Rule 2], how do you think I knew you were on your phone?

    They refused to go in front of me when the lights turned green, so I waited till the lights turned red and walked across the junction.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  29. gembo
    Member

    I am increasingly inclined to believe a significant number of drivers are on their phones at stationary points in traffic. E.g. Traffic lights. Where there is quite often a big pause once lights turn green whilst first driver In queue gets off their phone. Not sure what to do about it? From above they do not like it when you tell them to stop. Touching the vehicle is another thing they do not like.

    I am wondering if Chris Boardman will have the energy to take this on?

    I do not have any answers, just wondering if there could be a technical invention to prevent phone use in vehicles or higher resolution imagery to catch people? I am doubtful that campaigns of persuasion from one on one to mass advertising will make any difference?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  30. neddie
    Member

    The only thing that will make a difference is when the following 3 conditions are met:

    1. They start getting caught
    2. They get hit with penalty points
    3. 12 points genuinely means loss of licence.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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