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Sounds exciting! (well, terrifying)
Was it like this?
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Today's rubbish driving...
(11330 posts)- Started 13 years ago by Stepdoh
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Posted 6 years ago #
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It was less exciting that that :). I didn't even know he was there until I happened to glance behind me when I was in the car park and saw him stopped in front of the doors, getting out as the doors closed.
It also occurs to me that since it was a commercial vehicle (Some stonemasons I think), it shouldn't have been on Queen's Drive in the first place.
It also also occurs to me that I should have just waited behind him, since it was clear that he was in a hurry.
Posted 6 years ago # -
Well holy flarglesnot...
White van runs red light at Morrison Cres passing me on Morrison link heading to Tophichen Place. Then runs red light over Morrison Link and turns right onto Torphichen Place- breaking the left only one way.
I caught up with him at the junction and he then turns right again from Torphichen Place onto Torphichen Street breaking another left only direction and getting beeped at by a car.
I can only assume he has sat nav on and is blindly ignorning all of the left only signs and green lights with big arrows on them.Posted 6 years ago # -
More death on the roads of Fife, and lying, perjuring drivers:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-45299129
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Part of his defence was he had not noticed signs. Presumably as he was going too fast? Should have had more points added to his penalty for that admission.
Lives in Kinross has to report in 90 mins to airport. As stipulated in his contract? If he stays put in Kinross and his contract stays the same he will be disqualified and lose his job the next time he is caught speeding and incurs penalty points?(do you lose licence at 12 points or do you have to go over 12 points?, he is on nine just now?).
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He could have moved to somewhere with better public transport links to the airport if he didn't want to lose his job.
His defence seems to have rather cleverly managed to deflect focus on to the 50mph limit that he "failed to notice" - which rather ignores the fact that he would still have been nearly 20mph over the limit if the roadworks hadn't been there.
And £1,400 does not, to me, seem like a "substantial fine" in the overall circumstances.
@gembo: 12 points is normally automatic disqualification. (For recently qualified drivers it's six points - and you can get that for being on your hand-held mobile phone while driving.) However: "More than 10,000 motorists are allowed on the roads despite having 12 or more penalty points on their licence." At the time that article was written, there was a woman in Oxfordshire with 51 points on her licence who was still allowed to drive. The article also states: The category with the greatest rate of offending was men aged between 25 and 34. Ewan Stewart is 29, bang in the middle of that sweet spot. Whatever happened to "setting an example for others"?
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He could have moved to somewhere with better public transport links to the airport if he didn't want to lose his job.
It is not obvious to me that someone driving to the airport will be more rested than someone who takes public transport, even if they get slightly more sleep.
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Thanks @ejstubbs so the Sherriff has said ok let you off but any other speeding and bingo job lost, disqualified et cetera, I imagine it was a merc he was flooring through the roadworks but maybe was a Skoda.
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Tim Shalcross from road safety group IAM Roadsmart said that the delays on the Queensferry Road has resulted in some drivers deliberately flaunting the rules.
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Flouting. Flouting the rules. Mute point though, innit?
Posted 6 years ago # -
Flouting. Flouting the rules. Mute point though, innit?
Can a mute point be drawl?
Posted 6 years ago # -
@IWRATS - you will presumably be aware of the cat who ate some cheese and then waited by the mousehole with baited breath.
Posted 6 years ago # -
Tailgated by a Lothians Buses driver most of the way down Gilmerton Road, until I did a "back off" hand gesture. They then passed me with about two feet of separation.
Posted 6 years ago # -
I was beeped by a motor car heading up Bonnington Road past the school, then punishment-passed a few feet from the railings where the cyclist was killed a few years back.
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Can a mute point be drawl?
A mute point is not aloud. :)
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Brought to you by Aeron Electricals. Driver outside M&S at Morningside heading north on his mobile. Was using it on loudspeaker presumably so it was not too obvious. Couple of minutes later he shot past Canny Mans heading south-presumably having turned. And I mean SHOT past in what is a 20mph zone. Whilst blaring his horn at a cyclist. All to get held up at the Morningside Station junction. So 2 illegal practices and inappropriate use of a horn. I have e mailed my concern but I suspect it will be ignored. Asked if he has kids and if he would be happy for them to be anywhere near this driver.
Posted 6 years ago # -
Two days in a row, left-hooked by cars turning from Potterrow into West Nicholson Street. Quality bike corridoring.
Posted 6 years ago # -
@piosad And when it's not a left hook, it's people pulling straight into the bike lane to see past the parked cars:
(Start at 1:03)
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-45356737
Drove into the back of someone using a wheelchair on a road with no pavement or footpath.
"her vision was "obscured" by dirt on her windscreen and she had had two opportunities to fill her washer fluid but not taken them...Hayley Sterna was "dazzled" by the sun"
Two year driving ban and a suspended prison sentence.
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@EdinburghCycleCam: I see this behaviour quite regularly on my local main road. As frequently, I see its opposite: drivers who stop short of the give way lines, so that they can't actually get a decent view of the road they want to join.
Then there's the ones who leave an unnecessarily large gap between their vehicle and the one in front in queuing traffic - which can actually be quite handy for cyclists and motorcyclists filtering through the queue, but does mean that the queue itself stretches back further than it needs to and increases the probability of side roads, bus stops etc being blocked by queuing vehicles.
Basically: too many drivers of motor vehicles are pretty rubbish at road positioning.
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yesterday, Rossi Decorating van is heading north on Nicholson street. goes up the left hand lane (for left turns only) then CUTS IN FRONT of the queue of straight-going traffic waiting at the red light, by going into the ASZ.
i pulled up alongside him and stayed next to him--without trying--until i pulled off to go to the national museum. i'd like to thing he realised he'd gained nothing by his shenanigans, but doubt it.
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On the A701 heading south this morning. Overtaken on a blind bend by a small blue car in the face of an oncoming car, the driver of which quite understandably leant on his or her horn to express justifiable disapproval of the action.
All so very normal, except that the small blue car had a bike rack on the back.
There were several other close passes on the ride, some incredibly close and fast, but they weren't notable or unusual, really.
Posted 6 years ago # -
Raining today. And a question rather than a report.
I have a notion that drivers speed up in the rain. And take more risks.
Anyone else thought this?
I have mused as to if it was some sort of primal thing. "Ug. Bad weather, must get to shelter."
Any empirical evidence or better theories out there?
Posted 6 years ago # -
@Moose
Not sure if they speed up, but;
1) People who walk or cycle in good weather choose to drive when it rains and you get heavy ill-tempered motor traffic.
2) Car windows steam up and people drive with limited visibility.
3) Rim brakes are strongly affected by rain, increasing stopping distances.
4) I tend to put my head down a bit in the rain which reduces my powers of anticipation.Posted 6 years ago # -
@Moose - I notice there is more impatient/bad driving in poor weather. Weird eh?
Posted 6 years ago # -
“I notice there is more impatient/bad driving in poor weather.“
Presume a mix of people who tend not to drive daily and those who do experiencing more traffic.
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