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stickyMy guess, based on the photo is that the bus was pulling into a stop and caught the tram with it's tailswing.
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"Traffic is thought to be coping well with the incident."
I hope counselling is offered to Traffic just in case.
This morning, the young woman driver of a 16 plate red Fiat 500 with racing markings along the side.
From Lothian Road to Sighthill Indistrial Estate.
Weaved across lanes, starddled the middle line, sped, ran a red light at a ped crossing went right on Balgreen roundabout despite being in the turn left lane.
Really appalling driving Standards, on her phone the whole time.
trixie, snort. :)
Not in Edinburgh, but I feel compelled to share anyway - A driving instructor in Aberdeen who thinks that it's a legal requirement for cyclists to use a cycle lane if it exists, that it's illegal to be in primary position, and as a bonus that it's illegal to film in a public place.
If this is the sort of person who's teaching new drivers, it's no wonder that this thread is as long as it is...
@EdinburghCycleCam: I would refer my honourable friend to the answer I offered to the honourable HankChief regarding pavement parking by a driving instructor outside the Maybury Run & Become a few weeks back (page 270 of this thread).
In summary: report him to the Approved Driving Instructor Registrar along with the video evidence clearly proving that this person, who purports to be competent to teach people how to drive, has a seriously flawed understanding of the road traffic regulations. If that's not enough to get the registrar interested then I struggle to imagine what would be.
Porters driving school of Aberdeen has had a recent flurry of Google reviews....
North Deeside Road is not a safe place to use a bicycle. It's the main artery for the stampeding herds of white 4x4s from the douce villages of Deeside to the oil offices. Those 'cycle lanes' are nothing of the sort.
Aberdeen's the only place I've ever seen grown adults on fancy bikes commuting on the pavement.
It seems I only come on here to moan...
On three separate occasions on today's run drivers overtook at a traffic island by moving out to the oncoming lane. I imagine that this would be frowned upon if witnessed by police but maybe not. Maybe it's just another example of people driving how they want because they can, with very little likelihood of anything being done about it.
@morepathsplease: Do you mean passing the 'wrong' side of the island? Normally these have "Keep Left" roundels on the bollards, so passing the wrong side is a TS50 offence worth 3 points and maybe £60. I'd be surprised if it would be ignored if directly witnessed by a police officer.
On Saturday I was overtaken by a white BMW which must have been doing something around 50mph in the 30mph limit heading out of Wallyford towards the A1 junction (yes, sorry, I was in the car at the time). I've probably got footage of it on the dashcam if I check.
@ejstubbs - yes, on the 'wrong' side of the road.
I assume that people who drive like that do so because they don't ever get pulled up for ignoring the rules of the road and I wonder if police that witness this sort of thing routinely ignore it, along with any number of transgressions when it comes to 'rules of the road'. I find it difficult to be calm in the face of the anti-cycling brigade (instructors, (some) drivers, enforcement, the 'justice' system) - ok, I should probably have added 'some' to all.
Kind of hard to make out from the video, but the driver of the black Merc, registration R93 YAJ at Nicholson Street Tesco metro, who overtook the cyclist in front of me before pulling left, forcing her into the kerb.
That's the first time I've seen someone other than me punching a car...
The cyclist was alongside the car when it turned, so she had nowhere to go.
Thermo Logistics van LJ64 UVT being driven in a way which suggested the driver hadn't looked for me and hadn't seen me at the southern Ocean Terminal roundabout. I carried on round and followed him back up to the other roundabout until I got the plate, then resumed my journey.
@ECC - they didn't even put on their "I'm turning now, get out of my way" lights!
Good driving from the driver behind me going up the hill on Mayfield Road - they waited till we were past the parked cars before overtaking.
Unfortunately the driver behind them saw fit to overtake us both.
Edinburgh has some truly vile individuals driving around it
'Storm Ali video shows van driver target puddle to soak Edinburgh schoolboy'
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/storm-ali-video-shows-van-13278863
Diabolical driving of a grey Volskwagen at the Melville Drive/NMW toucan at home time. Having managed to strand themselves slap bang in the middle of the crossing as the lights switched to red and peds and cyclists started crossing, the driver made an annoyed grimace, revved the engine and basically drove at the cyclist who had just turned right off the toucan to get in front of their car. I had to brake to avoid getting in the car's way and nearly collided with another right-turning cyclist. The VW then proceeded to join the queue at the next lights, but (of course) courteously stopped for the car trying to turn right across their path into Tarvit Street, both of them entirely ignoring my presence going into that turn.
A different car did the 'I will turn right out of Gilmore Place before the cyclists out of Tarvit Street get here' thing, and the next one tried to follow but thought better of it eventually.
Two very close passes, one from a black cab, in Gilmore Place, were the icing on the cake of today's commute. Bleurgh.
More on the Aberdeen driving instructor.
Be warned, the article starts OK but gets more irritatingly/wildly inaccurate as it goes on.
(In case anyone newer to cycling/driving is reading, cycle lanes with a solid line are called mandatory because you have to observe them when you're in a car, not when you're cycling.)
@rbrtwtmn: Disappointing that the apparently misleading comment about mandatory cycle lanes came from the secretary of the Aberdeen Cycle Forum. (But then again, we can't be sure that the rag reported his words accurately or in full - and everyone and his dog has a story about a local paper misrepresenting what people have said, or just getting it totally wrong.)
@ejstubbs - I'm hoping the bit in brackets is correct - it felt very much like they'd cut out the next sentence which explained what a mandatory cycle lane actually is.
Also, there probably isn't a mandatory cycle lane within 100 km of Aberdeen.
Two taxi drivers did a U-turn in the junction at Summerhall, as I was coming the other way, forcing me to stop in the middle of the junction. First one might just have had enough time, but it was touch and go. The second one was just rubbish.
I.e. "One in five drivers not driving to the road conditions"
"19 per cent said the didn’t always slow down for them and 29 per cent said they sped up between bumps."
Possibly the other way round. 81% always slow down for them. ie they are going too fast. I often don't slow down for them as 20mph is a comfortable speed on them.
If only 29% slow down speed up between them does that leave 52% getting progressively slower? Something doesn't add up or is being badly reported.
Not a lot can be drawn from people slowing down and speeding up as someone may go over at 20mpoh in a higher car and in a lower car may need to go over at 5 mph. I slow down for speed bumps on my bicycle sometimes not because I am speeding. Speed bumps do not slow every type of vehicle to the same speed some cars can go over faster than others. Some speed bumps slow people down more than others all speed bumps are not the same, all vehicles not the same.
I can't believe that only 29% of drivers accelerate between speed bumps.
@Frenchy, it's much easier to believe in the context of a self selecting survey. 29% of confused.com drivers admit to speeding up between speed bumps. Given that their target market is confused drivers...
@Ed1: all speed bumps are not the same
They are supposed to be, though - there are standards for this sort of thing, same as there are for bollards, chicanes etc. That said, it is rather harder to measure the profile of a speed bump than the height and spacing of bollards or chicanes.
IIRC the council did have to get the contractor to re-do the speed bumps around the Buckstone estate because they were too severe, but it took the residents a fair bit of effort to get ECC to accept that the problem existed. I suspect that a fair few more would be found to be non-compliant if checked. (Sometimes, when the road is clear and no-one is around, I experiment driving with my car's cruise control set at a GPS-verified 20mph. Some of Edinburgh's speed bumps are really quite fierce at that speed.) I quite like speed cushions for some use cases, but too many of them seem to suffer from sinking of the brick paving approach and departure slopes, so they end up more like stepped kerbs. Again, something that should be addressed by the original contractor but - as with inadequate reinstatement of road surfaces following road works - all too often not pursued by the local authority.
This morning a personalised plated Range Rover passed me and my youngest (on seat) with about a foot of space - I yelped involuntarily. This was on the way to JGPS with my eldest cycling on the pavement (as many do). This resulted in the driver turning rough and waiting for us at the end of Spottiswoode Street in order to block the road and shout and aggress me. Genuinely scary - I asked him to please leave so that the children could cross but he feigned having trouble finding a gap so we were left having to face him while I implored him to move on as politely as I could. I didn't get the reg but I'd recognise it. Not worth reporting as the police will do nothing, and sadly the other parent who was affected didn't want to get involved.
@algo
That tale made my nuts retract in fear/readiness for combat. Hope you and the young ladies are OK.
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