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  1. Greenroofer
    Member

    You can't do what this chap is doing if you're looking at your phone while driving. This may well be why the blue van completely didn't notice him.

    What this chap is doing is what I want everyone behind a wheel to be doing while I'm out on my bike.

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    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. HankChief
    Member

    Rivetting watch. I never realised they were so deliberate with the noise they make.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

  4. ejstubbs
    Member

    Hmm, the DVLA has that car registered as being red...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. Trixie
    Member

    That advanced driving vid was a great watch.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. Frenchy
    Member

    Hmm, the DVLA has that car registered as being red...

    If you look carefully, you can see it is actually a really dark burgundy kind of colour.

    Agreed on the advanced driving video. The commentary was very interesting. Reminded me of a weather forecast at times.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. fimm
    Member

    Thank you for that police video, really interesting.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    That constant narrative technique is detailed in Motorcycle Roadcraft, which is the police riding manual minus the chapters on pursuit.

    I recommend it to anyone and everyone, not just motocyclists. The narrative technique is exhausting - at first you do it out loud like in the video then gradually you internalise and automate it.

    Every single time I've got in trouble the information to avoid said trouble was available but I failed to observe and/or act on it.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. dougal
    Member

    Thanks for video Greenroofer. I was consistently surprised by how far in the distance he was looking until I internalised that he wasn't going at my cycling pace! :-D

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. Blueth
    Member

    It is, sadly, all too common for cyclists and motorists alike to look no further ahead than the distance they think they need in which to stop rather than plan ahead and avoid a situation in the first place.

    It's beyond time that basic learner instruction covered this rather than leaving it to IAM etc. But then driving instruction is only on a "get you through your test" basis.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. Trixie
    Member

    "It's beyond time that basic learner instruction covered this"

    Totally. It should be far closer to the norm than it is.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. Arellcat
    Moderator

    It is, sadly, all too common for cyclists and motorists alike to look no further ahead than the distance they think they need in which to stop rather than plan ahead and avoid a situation in the first place.

    Frank Borman, former astronaut, described it thus:

    "A superior pilot uses his superior judgment to avoid situations which require the use of his superior skill."

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. gembo
    Member

    Shouted the bad word beginning with F and slammed on the brakes as the taxi in the lane turning right at diggers tonight 545ish was driven into the straight ahead lane with just the one slight issue that I was in the lane. I then shouted You didn't look and. Put the index and middle finger to my eyes in a V and then fired this at him.

    Sadly this did not work as he advanced to the red light at ardmillan terrace and turned right through that red light which must have meant he drove through a pedestrian crossing on green for the peds to cross.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Did the red light camera flash?

    Diggers junction sees some appalling driving. Hardly a week goes by without me seeing some driver proceed right down Angle Park Terrace while only the straight ahead filter is green. Just too complicated for those license holders...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. gembo
    Member

    @murun, not sure, the diggers junction is mental, I have seen all kinds of attempted turns there possibly in all 8 directions.

    This was further along at the ardmillan terrace junction and done very slowly and I think on the wrong side of the road. Was very odd.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. steveo
    Member

    Turned from Roseburn into Russel Road this morning and within seconds had a car coming at me on the other side of the road, passing another cyclist a bit close. Obviously promptly being stopped by the red lights 20m further along.... Moron.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. Stickman
    Member

  18. wingpig
    Member

    Slightly later leaving last night, so the remaining hometime-idiots were less diluted than at peak rush hour. Revvy moron-tube behind me at Pollock revved a bit down round the hill but then gave up and dropped back when the flow of uphill traffic showed no sign of abating. Extremely close and selfish pass from a white Beemer/Audi sort of thing on the approach to the red light at the Meadowbank corner. Driver very interested in rubbing his cheeks when I addressed him through his windscreen, but he turned into the houses opposite the Sainsbury car park so I can pop round and leave a note in his windscreen sometime. Smallish car tried to keep going round the corner at Lochend Butterfly Way despite them having been in a small space and me being where they were trying to go, but they didn't seem receptive to me pointing this out and informing them that they were technically on my side of the road. Finally, someone very important almost drove into me on the wrong side of the road at the wrong speed near the Lochend Butterfly Way opening at Hawkhill, evidently anxious to join the logjam trying to find spaces/squeeze through.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. ejstubbs
    Member

    @Stickman: Given that the incident only appears to have affected Borders Rail services, I assume that the lorry was travelling westbound when it struck the bridge. There is overheight vehicle detection and a big illuminated sign on the eastern approach to that bridge, in addition to the height restriction sign on the bridge itself, and the advance warning sign 20-30 metres (at a guess) before the bridge.

    If the height detection and warning equipment was functioning correctly then I'd expect that to be an automatic careless driving charge at the very least.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. urchaidh
    Member

    Typical nonsense from our friendly local pizza delivery company.

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  21. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    @urchaidh *sad trombone*

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

  23. LivM
    Member

    City glass van drove on the wrong side of the road to make his turn onto Ravelston Dykes out of Lennel Avenue easier (right by the temporary traffic light). I was trying to guide my 3yo on his balance bike onto the central refuge while pushing my own bike and worrying about black ice. Not about looking to see if any idiot was driving on the wrong side. He tooted and I jumped back and managed to cancel my "go" instructions to 3yo to stop him getting crushed under the wheels of the transit. I don't think the driver took his foot off the accelerator (why would be, he might have missed the green light...?)
    Tweeted a map of location.
    https://twitter.com/livia1521/status/1069928118905946112?s=19

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. Stickman
    Member

    Driver of “Speedy” branded flatbed lorry on St John’s Road with both hands off the wheel to allow him to stuff an enormous roll into his gob.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. dessert rat
    Member

    very close pass just a few hundred meters from my office on Craighall Road, watched him turn into the school further up the road so went for a chat.

    After much smidsu he said that he wasn't too close, I was wrong. Silly me.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  26. I were right about that saddle
    Member

  27. Frenchy
    Member

    After much smidsu he said that he wasn't too close, I was wrong. Silly me.

    I don't suppose they appreciated the paradoxical nature of both not seeing you and knowing that they passed you safely?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  28. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    @iwrats

    Yes, they do

    Posted 5 years ago #
  29. jdanielp
    Member

    I was passed not overly closely, but very fast and revvily by the driver of a sporty black hatchback on Myreside Road this morning. They were behind me on Balcarres Street, and were likely becoming increasingly irritated by my decision to a strong primary position to discourage them overtaking into oncoming traffic, just before the right-hand turn at the end of Craighouse Gardens or around the blind bend on Myreside Road itself. I raised my right arm as they passed me and then raised my left arm as I passed them at the end of the traffic queue waiting at the lights shortly after.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  30. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Murun Buchstansanger

    I should have known. Asset services indeed.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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