A colleague got home last night to discover that a delivery van driver had hit a lamppost which then fell over and landed on his car which was parked in his driveway.
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Lamppost should have got out of the way.
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@Stickman
Always worth remembering that many delivery drivers are self-employed on £0.50p a delivery.
The costs of this model are externalised onto insurance companies and other third parties. It's just capitalism in action.
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+10 points to the driver who sped to overtake me on Queen's Drive this morning. I was doing 29 mph when they went flying past me, only for them to get stuck in the queue of traffic.
I pulled alongside before the roundabout at Holyrood Gait, and they wound down the window. I said "It's 20 mph you know". The driver said "Yeah, I know" in an annoyed tone of voice.Anyone know if it's possible to report people for speeding in instances like this? I have it on video, and I have Strava telemetry that indicates a steady speed of 28-30 mph down the whole descent.
I know Road Policing Scotland were doing speed checks at the weekend, but I'm getting thoroughly fed up with people clearly doing over 30 mph in the 20 mph PARK, and I see this on an almost daily basis (So far twice this week, and it's only Tuesday morning).
I might go along to St. Leonard's at lunch and see if I can speak to someone.Posted 5 years ago # -
If you can be bothered it is definitely worth at least mentioning the chronic speeding to PC Copper. Doubt your home brew recording will count as evidence for this incident, but if enough fed up folk complain to the polis maybe they will do some enforcement actions.
I'm similarly sick to the back teeth of drivers using Montrose Terrace, Regent Road and western part of London Road as race tracks. First two are 20mph in their entirety, latter is a conveniently confusing mix of 30mph and 20mph zones. Regardless, regularly witness drivers going As Fast As Possible on these city centre streets. Many going well over 40mph judging by how quickly they disappear in a puff of noxious pollutants.
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@EdinburghCycleCam, more likely they'll get you charged for speeding!
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@crowriver: If you can be bothered it is definitely worth at least mentioning the chronic speeding to PC Copper. Doubt your home brew recording will count as evidence for this incident, but if enough fed up folk complain to the polis maybe they will do some enforcement actions.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I figured.@CycleCommute.CC: The Holyrood Park Regulations say that the speed limit for pedal cycles is 30 mph, regardless of whether or not speed limits apply to bikes in general ;)
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“The Holyrood Park Regulations say that the speed limit for pedal cycles is 30 mph”
Really??
We should demand they take action to endure compliance...
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@chdot: Yup. They also say that everyone has to obey the signs in the park, but since the 20 mph signs are the standard road signs / paint, they arguably only apply to motor vehicles, just like regular speed limits.
The regulations are actually fairly interesting (and only about 3 pages). Taxis aren't allowed to pick up passengers in the park, and cycling "off of marked paths" is also not allowed.
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Anyone know if it's possible to report people for speeding in instances like this? I have it on video, and I have Strava telemetry that indicates a steady speed of 28-30 mph down the whole descent.
I'd be very, very surprised, but I'd encourage you to ask anyway.
I've previously reported drivers who passed me on double solid white lines when I was doing 20mph. Police officer was sympathetic, but explained that it was unlikely to end in a prosecution as the driver would just say "I thought the cyclist was going less than 10mph."
Apparently my GPS data showing that I was doing ~20mph wouldn't be good enough to refute that.
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In fact, Link to the pdf (expires after 30 days)
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@Frenchy - Yeah, that's what I figured, something along the lines of "Strava telemetry isn't to an evidential standard". I'll go and ask at lunch, I'll be out that way anyway.
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I spoke to an officer at St. Leonards - he said that I should report every incident, and should do so at the time. That way the incidents are logged so they can see how bad the issue is, and the number plate can be circulated. It's also possible that a police car will spot the vehicle and give the driver a talking to / check the vehicle. It's also possible that someone else would complain about the same vehicle, in which case it may go further.
I did also point out that probably 2 days out of every 3, I'm overtaken by someone doing easily 35-40 mph, and the officer on the desk said he'd report that.
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It's also possible that a police car will spot the vehicle and give the driver a talking to / check the vehicle.
It's also possible that Civil Service Strollers will win the Scottish Cup next year.
I shouldn't be so cynical, that's not a bad response on the whole.
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This is the overtake from this morning:
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I've often considered inventing a game where you see how fast you can go on a bike in a 20mph zone and still be overtaken. So far mine is 34mph on the Duddingston Low Road. To be fair the driver did give me tons of space when she did it
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More speeding on the same bit of Queen's Drive this morning, this time from the driver behind me, a little close for comfort (though not so close that I felt the need to do anything), when I was dong 28 mph.
No reg (I couldn't even clearly see the car, since it was behind me), so presumably no point in reporting, as suggested by the police.
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...to be fair he said sorry ...
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Can you get any more stupid than this:?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46846981
police Lt Travis Lyman...
... said it was a warning he never thought he would have to give - don't drive while blindfolded.
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Inclusion in this thread may be regarded as ageist -
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The duke was driving a Range Rover and was pulling out of a driveway onto the A149 when the accident happened.
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Not quite blindfolded but still:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-46903945
A man who drove with his hands bound together by cable ties has been given a year-long driving ban.
James Hayter, 22, was stopped in Gillingham, Dorset, in June 2018 by police who found his hands tied to the steering wheel.
He told officers his friend had done it "for it laugh"Posted 5 years ago # -
Someone in the large queue of traffic on Gilmerton Road this evening thought it sensible to be using their phone whilst driving. When I asked them, fairly politely, to not do so, they asked "Why are you speaking to me like you're the police?"
I hope that actual police are far less polite than I was when making such requests.
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Maybe they just meant they thought your turn of phrase was a bit policey? Did you actually say "do you think it's quite sensible, sir or madam, to be using your phone whilst driving?" with that special slightly sarcastic emphasis on the honorific?
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@chdot long article. My favourite bits
"I was just going down the A149 … and saw a lot of blue flashing lights ahead," she said. "I saw a black, 4x4 type car on its side and me and my son were like 'oh my word, that doesn't look good'.
"Luckily it was just sort of on the side of the road, the road wasn't closed in any way.
"Obviously it looked quite smashed in. I'm quite amazed he [the duke] is okay actually."
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"...about six ordinary looking cars ... looked as though they had stopped to help."
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Norfolk County Council was already due to discuss safety issues on the road before the crash took place.
The authority is expected to lower the maximum speed limit from 60mph to 50mph and approve installing average speed cameras on the road.
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Tailgated and close pass on Dean Bridge/Queensferry Road by the 0800ish M90 bus to Inverness, while I'm doing 25 downhill. Given that said bus will itself spend the morning being overtaken while driving up the M90/A9 at 56mph some courtesy would have been nice but there must be a hierarchy I'm unaware of...
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The hierarchy is ‘I’m bigger than you, you are in my way’.
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I've never had a good experience with a Citylink / Megabus driver. My last experience was a few months ago heading West on Princes Street, and the inside lane was closed near the West end. A number 900 driver decided to honk at me for cycling in the only open lane, and then pointed furiously at the coned off lane as he close passed me - presumably indicating that I should be cycling in the closed lane, weaving between cones and road works.
Camera battery had died unfortunately, or else the video would be going to Citylink.Posted 5 years ago # -
It's a shame, as I quite like their product!
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I'm sure it has been picked up somewhere else, but saw this in the Guardian regarding the 97 year old man who was in an accident in Norfolk.
"The lawyer Nick Freeman, known as Mr Loophole, who has represented celebrities prosecuted over alleged traffic offences, said he believed the prince could have a good defence if he blamed being blinded by the sun, as one witness claimed. He could also avoid prosecution by surrendering his licence, Freeman told the Press Association."
So not not being able to see but pulling out anyway is a good defence and not an admission of guilt?
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