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  1. piosad
    Member

    PHV in the ASL in Tarvit St, bang in the middle straddling both lanes. Driver using the red light to take both hands off the wheel to devour his takeaway lunch.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. Greenroofer
    Member

    Dear driver of the Audi (surprise!) estate on Myreside Road this morning,

    I was riding along the middle of the lane because I had a 9 year-old child on a bicycle in front of me. Children are prone to wobbling and wandering, as you may know if you have any of your own. I wanted to make sure that cars didn't come too close to him.

    Next time, please could you wait until there aren't cars coming the other way before you try to pass us. It is totally not acceptable to come by both of us so close that I could touch your car. I'm sure your journey was VERY important, and all that, but, all other things being equal, I'd rather you didn't endanger the life of my son in your rush to get ahead of us.

    Best wishes

    Greenroofer

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. gembo
    Member

    @greenroofer, where are the half bricks on pieces of elastic when you need them. If only Ruggtomcat still posted on here. He would have pals in the theatre of street with said items.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    A right (arguably) and left hook from the same driver on Gilmerton Road last night.

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    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. Frenchy
    Member

    Come on now, what do you expect them to do? Wait three seconds?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. ejstubbs
    Member

    But but but...if he'd waited for the cyclist then the driver of the silver car might have decided to go as well and he'd have had to wait for them too! The shame of it: an Audi having to give way to two road users at once. (There's probably something in the owner's manual that explains why doing that is bad for the car.)

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. miak
    Member

    Forget the Vorsprung just durch den radfahrer fahren

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. Frenchy
    Member

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  9. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    Two incidents of rubbish driving this afternoon.

    The first one was the MGIF teenager / early 20's driver who:
    1. Pulled alongside me when I was stopped at the pedestrian crossing on Horse Wynd, instead of sitting behind me.
    2. Close passed me on Abbey Mount only to get stuck in the traffic at the junction with Regent Road
    3. Overtook and then cut in sharply without indicating just before the traffic lights at the top of Easter Road
    4. Turned left without indicating onto London Road
    5. Honked furiously at me when I dared to look at him as I passed him on London Road when he stopped to turn right into a side street

    The second one was the driver of the black Nissan who sped at about 50 mph as he overtook me down Queen's Drive. He got stuck in traffic at the roundabout at Holyrood Gait, and I caught up with him.

    When I reached him, he was on the far left of the road, either kerbing his wheels or being millimetres from doing so. I pulled alongside and said "Are you on drugs or something? It's a 20 mph limit", at which point he wound down his window, slurred something completely unintelligible and swerved towards me so I was now in the oncoming traffic lane, and then back towards the kerb - slowly - it looked accidental rather than a deliberate "trying to drive into me" sort of manouever.

    No idea if he was just being an idiot, or if he was actually on something, but I've let the police know via 101 just in case. Video later tonight probably, unless they call me back and say they want to see the video.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. Frenchy
    Member

    Van driver who appeared to have a TV show playing on their phone, which was resting beside his door handle.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. ejstubbs
    Member

    @Frenchy: That kind of thing scares me more than Easter Road radge merchants: they'll kill you without even knowing that they're doing it. At least the motor-neds appear to actually intend to do you harm...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. the canuck
    Member

    I used George St to cross New Town today, although Cycle Streets thinks i should use Queen St, including a getting in the right hand lane and then making ANOTHER right lane shift to get on to Melville St... i don't think so!!

    the entire way, i was accompanied by a soft-top Porsche. he'd rev up, accelerate hard down the street, then slam to a stop at each roundabout--where i'd catch him. and i wasn't trying. i really wanted to ask if his car had a gizmo to clean him up after he 'finished.' we parted ways on South Charlotte St. i almost miss him.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. rbrtwtmn
    Member

    @the cannuck - if Cyclestreets is giving you a completely unreasonable route (or unreasonable manoeuvres) the consider letting the guys who run it know about it - see this feedback page. They've done a lot of work to try to make sure that it doesn't suggest stuff that's difficult on a bike in UK conditions. (But it might also be good to check first that the issue isn't caused by an error in the Openstreetmap data - which we can fix directly).

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. chrisfl
    Member

    It does look quite odd that CycleStreets chooses Queen Street for both it's balanced and fast routes, over George Street. I note that both are tagged in OSM as Tertiary - the user who moved George Street to Tertiary noted that George Street is Classified by Edinburgh Council as a "C" road; but I can;t find this list. Does anyone know?

    This is the a cyclestreets route https://www.cyclestreets.net/journey/64555057/#balanced

    and a cycle.travel https://cycle.travel/map/journey/91023

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. Frenchy
    Member

    @chrisfl - The response to this FOI request has a list of classified roads. Unhelpfully, it doesn't give most of them their "real" names, but there aren't many A/B roads, and a quick skim suggests that none of them are George St or Queen St.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    i really wanted to ask if his car had a gizmo to clean him up after he 'finished.'

    Outstanding content.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. slowcoach
    Member

    @chrisfl Queen Street is part of ZC5 and George St is ZC21, according to sabre-roads.org.uk

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. gembo
    Member

    @Morningsider fixed the Firrhill issue with advice to cycle on pavement which is shared use. However Descending from City Hospital to the paint roundabout at Merchants Golf Club. I was driven at today. I expect this as it happens all the time (similar to the firrhillroundabout but with more room as is a paint roundabout)

    All done very slowly. I did the old shakey head routine. He did the arm jive

    Caught him at South Morningside junction and asked him to roll his window down (I did not touch the vehicle). I was incredibly cheery and still wearing the dapper suit. I stated I cannot read your mind so I cannot tell if you have seen me or not when you drive straight at me. He said of course he had seen me (did not feel like it)

    We then turned and I did the jink up the crescent I looked down to see him flooring it and then braking rapidly at the pedestrian crossing which was red, you know to let the children cross to school.

    He was having a bad driving day (big white four by four)

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. jdanielp
    Member

    The driver of the black hatchback who gesticulated at me to cycle closer to the gutter as they overtook, actually quite safely, on Myreside Road this morning. They had been behind me for all of about thirty seconds from the bottom of the hill, passing through the new lights (which briefly turned red and then green again for no obvious reason) and around the blind corner towards the sports complex so had no safe opportunity to overtake until then anyway... They then proceeded to slow down behind a gutter cyclist ahead of me and overtake them even more safely. Odd behaviour.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    Third driver this week reported to 101 for doing in excess of 40 mph through Holyrood Park.

    I've got the police coming to see me tonight about the incoherent bloke yesterday, so I'm hoping I can use the same appointment to show them today's driver, rather than wasting everyone's time twice.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  21. Rosie
    Member

    Going down Morrison Street in painted lane. Woman in small car pulls out from Grove Street right in front of me. Was going slowly, so had plenty of time to stop, but as she ignored me and tried to get into the centre lane, I smacked my front wheel on her door and shouted at her.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. jdanielp
    Member

    Double whammy today. I was subjected to a blast of the horn and then a punishment pass by the driver of a private hire vehicle for having the audacity to take primary on Gilmore Place in order to overtake a cyclist and avoid cars blocking the bike lane.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. dougal
    Member

    I'm not sure what people think cycle lane markings mean, but drivers entering from side roads often treat them as a secondary Give Way line. This appears to be the only occasion on which drivers can see those painted lines.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. piosad
    Member

    Absolutely diabolical from the driver of a red Vauxhall at the King's junction just now. Two cyclists in the ASZ on Gilmore Place, Vauxhall behind them, a group of four or five in Tarvit Street. Green comes on, the two cyclists in the Gilmore Place ASZ cut to the right, the red Vauxhall (which, remember, is starting from a position way behind them already) just follows them and drives directly at the big group coming the other way, scattering them to the winds. Driver either paying no attention at all (how can you miss four cyclists?) or just not giving a single [rule 2].

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. wingpig
    Member

    Small white car entirely on the wrong side of the road on Lochend Butterfly Way, approaching the junction with Hawkhill Avenue. I assume they were meddling with something inside the car rather than paying attention to the road and were not considering how often whooshing morons approaching from the Albion Road direction cut the corner when turning in.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  26. Frenchy
    Member

    @dougal - had a very bad case of that tonight.

    I had to slam on the brakes to avoid being driven into. Driver did also stop and waved an apology. Then, literally within half a second, they were swearing and gesticulating for me to hurry up and get out of the way.

    Aye, you've just almost killed me - you'll forgive me for not rushing to get in front of your vehicle again.

    Might post video later, but am considering wasting my time by reporting to the police.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  27. minus six
    Member

    cops aint worth the bovver

    a convoluted bitstream

    not of this earth

    Posted 5 years ago #
  28. minus six
    Member

    big shout out

    marxist brothers and sisters

    our time soon come

    Posted 5 years ago #
  29. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    Police didn't even bother turning up for two of the incidents of speeding through Holyrood Park I reported last week. The officer emailed me to request the footage, and then didn't respond and didn't turn up to the diary appointment, so I presume that means they're not interested.

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    Posted 5 years ago #
  30. piosad
    Member

    Six separate drivers giving me absolutely no space on the Cowgate between Grassmarket and South Bridge, one of the potholes they prevented me from avoiding was genuinely quite scary. Need I say I got to Paterson's Land earlier than every single one of them?

    Posted 5 years ago #

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