@Frenchy - that's what I'm saying if I ever hear that from a driver.
"You were all over the road"
"So you thought the best course of action was to drive really close to me?"
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Today's rubbish driving...
(11337 posts)- Started 13 years ago by Stepdoh
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"A driver left the scene after colliding with a cyclist who was carrying a three-year-old boy on his bike in the east of Edinburgh.
The incident happened on Seafield Road at the junction with the Seafield Waste Works at about 8:50am on Thursday, June 27th.
In a statement, police said a 38-year-old male cyclist was involved in a collision with a white Ford Focus car, which failed to stop and drove off towards Portobello.
The cyclist sustained only minor injuries and didn’t require medical assistance.
The toddler, who was also on the bike, was uninjured."
Is it just me, or is the headline phrasing rather misleading, given it fails to mention a driver or car?
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@lorlane: I don't even know what he meant by me "veering offline." I'm a competent cyclist and the only veering I may have done would be around a pothole etc. Pretty standard.
As Lord Denning once stated: "Every cyclist in entitled to his wobble". (Also referenced here - visible despite the paywall. IIRC the case was in 1957.)
(Which is probably pretty much the basis of the 1.5m passing room advice now in the HC.)
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Is it just me, or is the headline phrasing rather misleading, given it fails to mention a driver or car?
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I was in the green lane on Liberton Road at 17h30 and realised I had a car up my bahookey. Spotted a cop car queued ahead in the open lane and thought I'd have a bit of fun.
Stopped beside it and indicated the car behind and my watch. Cops just shrugged. So you can genuinely drive past the police in an operational green lane and it's fine.
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The bus lane camera there now is dishing out fines now, if that is any solace?
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Oh that's good. Never even spotted the camera. Lady Road junction?
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Southbound, just before the junction with Gilmerton Road.
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Gah. Northbound.
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I was driven at by a fast reversing vehicle as I crossed Castle Terrace late this afternoon as a pedestrian. It passed in the far lane as I was waiting to cross and then pulled in to the far pavement as if to park. I checked for further traffic and then started to cross when it appeared to be safe to do so. As I was crossing the far lane, I suddenly became aware that the vehicle that had not actually parked was now reversing towards me at quite some speed so I hastened my pace so as to avoid being collected and then stepped back onto the road as the vehicle came to a halt behind me. I shouted at the driver and passenger through the open window that they had nearly hit me and to actually make the effort to use their mirrors in the future. There was a sheepish apology in response. I think that the driver had reversed to position their vehicle to gain access to the entrance to the car park, but not mirror checking before reversing at speed is a recipe for disaster...
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Two MGIFs - one yesterday morning, one this afternoon.
Both were ~15m from a red light, the second one when there was nowhere for the driver to actually go, because there were 3 cyclists in the inside lane.
But fear not, the hard-pressed motorist won out by just driving into the inside lane anyway, scattering the awful cyclists in the process.
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I was out in my weekly drive to the shops and stopped at the lights in Wilkieston for a minute and then a mercedes drove in to the back of my car.
It has no brakes made no proper effort to stop. It drove on after spoke to the man, its now parked by the junction between long dalamhoy road and A71 I think he must have realised driving with no brakes not a good idea. Seemed very egar to get going eastern European guy. DW54CLK on a mercedes CLK bald tyres as well.
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Oof. You OK? Much damage?
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]Yes my car already had a cracked bumper after was driven in to years ago by a gov person who the police refused to give the details to my insurance company. It now has a another mark on the bumper but because bumper already has damage I Did not push to get his name. That car with no brakes could hear when we drove round the corner and parked up after the bump he was using the handbrake. Because i had the clutch in, car rolled so little damage, but if was on bike would be an injury.
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Ed1, I thought his tax was due up but somehow he has managed to get another year out of it, but perhaps his MOT in august will sort those brakes. Would the police pay attention to a report of a dangerous vehicle like that? Imagine someone stepped out on a zebra crossing :(
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I guess it may be he just bought the car, as you need to buy tax when buy a car now as not transferable any more. May be after just buying turned out to be a lemon with no brakes, may be had not got around to getting insurance either would explain possibly the lack the normal formalities. I suppose if had just bought the car not someone that has a habit of driving with no brakes.
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bringing in a criminologist, David Best, to investigate accidents resulting from chases. Best came to the conclusion that standards varied wildly from district to district and that, in the main, officers were given a lot of leeway once the sirens were on and the suspects in flight. There seemed to be a received locker-room understanding: most chases turned out fine. “We’ve done a lot of work on this in America,” Alpert said, “where an amazing number of officers don’t wear a seatbelt. It’s called ‘phantom ninja’ [syndrome]. You’re inside the car with lights and sirens blaring and you think you’re immune and nothing bad can happen. But it can. It does.”
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https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/jul/02/deaths-uk-police-pursuits-chases
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Is LT for Latvia? Big articulated lorry inching out of the curved bit at the buses bit at Heriot-Watt this morning, right across the give way sign right into my path which would have been curtains had I not stopped to watch him do it. Car behind almost went for it but driver gained control of his senses.
Was a left hand drive. Lorry driver I imagine lost marbles and though he was back in the Baltic, did not see me, or both
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Cycling home through Holyrood Park, I was keeping up with the traffic in front, doing 20 mph (the speed limit). Apparently that wasn't enough for this PHV driver, who - I hesitate to use the term "overtook", because there was only about 1.5m between me and the car in front. So he instead drove alongside me, down the centre line of the road, about 1m from the car in front of me, before deciding to overtake the line of 4-5 other vehicles who were overtaking a cyclist.
After having to brake because of another driver giving a reasonable distance from the the cyclist as they overtook, the PHV driver came within 1-2cm of kerbing his wheels on the right-hand kerb, beforing flooring it at 30mph+.
Of course I caught up to him just after the junction with London Road, where he gave me a "friendly" honk as I stared at him through the driver's side window while shaking my head (Since the police told me the last time I reported someone that I need to be able to identiy the driver or they won't do anything if I report it - though I didn't bother reporting this).
I'll report it to the council licensing folk tomorrow - no point reporting it to the police; previous experience tells me they'll say "There's no record of his speed, so we can't charge him for speeding, and his driving was inconsiderate, sure, but nobody was hurt so it's all a great laugh really, and we can't possibly do anything".
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Utterly brainless driving. Should be sufficient to have both his PHC and driving licenses torn up, but I think you're right about the pointlessness of reporting to the police.
Since the police told me the last time I reported someone that I need to be able to identiy the driver or they won't do anything if I report it
That's nonsense, surely.
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Police will prioritise and also individual officers interpretations vary. So within a broad parameter known as The Law there ar many variations. We are similar to other narrower interest groups in wanting the police to apply the law as it should be whereas the police often go with Will this get a conviction?
We will never sort out safety on the roads by taking out individual drivers (this is a good thing to do of course but takes a lot of energy - even the old mentalist taxi driver who waited for many minutes in middle of regent terrace until the cyclist he was having the spat with came by so he could hook him on camera is probably back driving a taxi under an assumed name etc)
Much energy of course also needed to get the focus on to Segregated Paths. There must come a tipping point where the government gets that we are not going away and that they have to stop pandering to motorists if we are to make roads safe to get more people cycling to reduce pollution, reduce obsesity etc
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@Frenchy -
Since the police told me the last time I reported someone that I need to be able to identiy the driver or they won't do anything if I report itThat's nonsense, surely.
Yup. I'll upload that video tonight - driver clearly using their phone while driving past Liberton High at school time - the officer who came to see the footage said that although the phone is clear, if the driver contested it and it went to court, it'd be thrown out because I couldn't identify the driver. I pointed out that the registered keeper has to identify the driver, and they said that to do that it has to go to court and that means me going to court, taking time off work, them filling in paperwork, etc.Basically the officer was making up excuses for not doing his job - so I'll do anything I can to void such future excuses.
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I sometimes wonder why we even bother with a licence system in the country as bad driving is ignored so often.
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As promised:
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o_O
That couldn't have been clearer.
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