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  1. unhurt
    Member

    @IWRATS please do share any response from skip lorry firm!

    I was peching up Dublin Street this morning when a huge white Range Rover passed me slowly on my right then swung in to the left. Yelling caused the passenger to alert the driver, who braked but looked at me as if I was somehow in the wrong. Looking back it seems this manoeuvre had been part one of a reverse parking attempt into a bay on the far side of the road. Apparently this "personal vehicle" was so big Dublin Street wasn't wide enough to do it from the right hand lane...

    Posted 4 years ago #
  2. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Skip firm owner highly unamused by the operative's behaviour. Confirms his is a family firm. Requested footage (I have none of course) and assured me the guy was in for a formal interview based on the truck's satellite tracker data and my e-mail.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  3. gembo
    Member

    Must have been amused by your e-mail though? Unless McKenzie Skip Hire. They are very literal - driving good but banter free.

    Here is an email I sent recently to my colleague who runs The Clenny

    Hi Andy Hope you are well. Scottish Water still laying a big pipe outside my door but this has not stopped the grey bins nor the green bins from being emptied on a regular basis so thanks very much for that.

    The bottles sat for a month but were taken last week

    The brown bin has been 6 weeks. I have one and my neighbour has one. Though I think he pays for two.

    If it is £25 for 25 collections does this mean you owe me £3 and my neighbour £6? He does not get out much so if you take me to the pub you can buy me a pint and yourself a pint and then the debt is repaid?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  4. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Must have been amused by your e-mail though?

    I'm hoping the driver gets it and can read. I mean he'll be looking for me for a month afterwards but it'll be worth it.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  5. Stickman
    Member

    Tonight I was driving on Riccarton Mains Road towards Heriot Watt. Raining and dark so I was well under the 40mph speed limit. Driver behind didn’t like this so overtook on a bend with an oncoming car. Only luck prevented a head-on collision.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  6. the canuck
    Member

    Leith, Henderson St to the Shore, I sometimes notice drivers being idiots on Henderson and it isn't until they carry on merrily to Shore that i realise they aren't allowed to do that.

    today was a driver honking hard at a cyclist going through that junction--she appeared to be slowing as she was going to pull off into the cycle racks on the left. Driver went into the Shore behind her--if they'd been driving legally, her slow down wouldn't have affected driver at all.

    on the plus side, there's a now a cafe there where you can buy records.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  7. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    An update on This Incident from last year. Ok, so it's hardly "today's" rubbish driving...

    The "I can't be bothered to click that link" version is: A van driver sped to overtake me in Holyrood Park, then brake checked me, undertook me, deliberately (in my opinion and that of the guy that saw it all) swerved into me, then left the scene.

    I spoke to Cycle Law at the time, and was looking for £200 for the cost of repairs to the bike, new helmet (mine was a write-off - cracked all the way through and scuffed all over), new gloves (shredded), and new hi-viz jacket (torn).

    After 6 months of my solicitor talking to the driver's insurance company, it transpired that they were denying liability - despite the driver being charged with dangerous driving, and there being a witness to the whole event (my camera was damaged and didn't record any footage, even using disk recovery software). They sent me to get examined at Murrayfield Spire hospital, where a consultant looked at my scars (which I still had 6 months after the event, on my knee, hip and elbow) and asked if I ever have nightmares about it (lol, no), if I took time off work, how long until I was cycling again, if my life, leisure activities or mental state were affected by it, etc etc.

    The purpose of the examination was so they could get a settlement from the insurers for pain and suffering, in addition to the cost of repairs. Reading between the lines, I suspect it was partly because it was no longer worth the time that had gone into it on Cycle Law's behalf - which is fair enough if that was the case.

    I was in court a couple of weeks ago, as a witness the case, and the driver decided not to bother turning up (so now has a warrant out for his arrest, good job that driver). The insurance company finally agreed to pay out - although I don't actually know if the driver not appearing at court was a factor.

    I've now got "substantially more" than the original £200 amount - if the insurers had paid out in the first place, they'd have saved themselves a chunk of money.

    Since I only wanted £200 in the first place, and that was a year ago anyway, I've decided to split the proceeds equally 3 ways between me (new bike time!), PoP and Spokes - my logic being that both groups so great work campaigning for segregated infrastructure, which if it was present where I was (admittedly it's a quiet-ish road with no real room for cycle infrastructure, but that's besides the point), would mean that this incident would never have happened - and hopefully the donation can go some way to preventing others from being on the receiving end of Today's rubbish driving.

    I can highly recommend Cycle Law, for anyone who has been on the receiving end of Today's rubbish driving - I didn't have to pay any fees at all (Their fees are taken from the proceeds, and money for equipment and repairs are ring-fenced, so you're guaranteed at least that if the insurers pay out), I only needed to have one phone conversation when I made contact with them, didn't need to do any in-person meetings (with the exception of the independent medical exam) or anything else requiring any effort at all on my part. They were quick to reply to e-mails, and kept me informed throughout the whole process. 10/10.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  8. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Well done - lovely tale. Glad it's worked out.

    Here's hoping the driver falls down the stairs resisting arrest.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  9. Frenchy
    Member

    That's a good result on the insurance side of things.

    Any idea what the next stage of the court case is likely to be?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  10. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    Here's hoping the driver falls down the stairs resisting arrest.
    That'd be lovely.

    Any idea what the next stage of the court case is likely to be?

    I asked at the time, and was told that I'll get another witness citation when the police locate the driver. I imagine that'll be next year some time. Hopefully he turns up next time so he can get his points / fine. I'm unsure if he'll actually end up being done for dangerous driving, or if his lawyer will barter down to a guilty plea for careless driving (though maybe that would have already been done by now).

    Posted 4 years ago #
  11. the canuck
    Member

    Good to hear that you got a good result, and impressed by your forward-thinking use of the payout.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  12. sallyhinch
    Member

    Wow. Thank you very much on behalf of POP and I hope you get a really nice bike to boot.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  13. fimm
    Member

    Person driving along 40mph road where "everyone" speeds, with both hands off the steering wheel because he was engaged in eating something (biscuits?) out of a large white paper bag.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  14. Frenchy
    Member

    Driver of a white transit-size van, number plate DU68 DKF went through a red light at the Liberton Brae/Mayfield Road junction. Perhaps if they hadn't been on their phone at the time, they'd have been able to notice the light was red.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  15. gembo
    Member

    Driver in wee white fiesta had positioned it parallel tot he junction of one of the Flower Colonies just short of Taste good at Shandon next to the bike lane. He basically had nowhere to go.

    He starts to pull out into the bike lane. There is a row of traffic in the cat lane. Cat lane? OK car lane. I give a little bit of a loud Hoi. He stops. Then a second later he responds with very loud honk so I am like totally sticking up the Vs at him behind my back.

    I think in fact he was blaring his horn to alert the cyclist behind me that he was trying to get out. Though as we were in the right the horn was a bit much.

    He came passed me about Malones for the Scones bakery but seemed unfazed.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  16. dessert rat
    Member

    white transit stopping at the lights going down Frederick St last night. Unfortunately for him the contents of the large cardboard box on his roof didn't.

    Spilled approx 30, 3m lengths of something metal - (fascia fixings ?) across all west bound lanes of Queen St.

    Not sure I'd have driven over them, but the ten or so west bound cars did, pancaking them all.

    They were angry chaps that spilled from the transit to rescue their flattened cargo.

    My friends visiting from hong kong didn't seem phased, I expect they are used to worse.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  17. wishicouldgofaster
    Member

    I've came to the conclusion that Sainsbury Craigleith attracts the highest amount of blind drivers.

    This morning it was a driver of a bin lorry who just came out from the garage junction without a care despite me being on the road. High viz, flashing lights and not that dark - no difference if you're doing a birdbox challenge!

    Posted 4 years ago #
  18. Rosie
    Member

    @EdinburghCycle - Thanks so much, it is really nice and generous of you to donate to Spokes like that. I'm glad you got a good outcome, and I hope the van driver gets a bad one!

    Posted 4 years ago #
  19. Frenchy
    Member

    Taxi driver overtook me on Princes Street as I prepared to negotiate the tramlines at South St Andrew Street. Utterly pointless, stupid and dangerous. They were stuck at a red light 15 seconds later.

    Earlier I was beeped at for, apparently, choosing to cycle around parked cars on Gilmerton Road rather than into the back of them.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  20. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    From Tuesday. The light was red for 3-4 seconds before this taxi driver decided he was too important to wait for the lights to turn green, so drove through the red while pedestrians were crossing.

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    Posted 4 years ago #
  21. miak
    Member

    @iwrats just ready your skip lorry email...and my bladder nearly let me down reading it ...Thank you ! :-)

    Posted 4 years ago #
  22. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @miak

    I think it worked as well. ;-)

    Posted 4 years ago #
  23. fimm
    Member

    Heading along Dalry Road to the 5-way junction, in the dark on the way home last night.

    A car passes me. I'm sure the driver is merely unaware that the speed limit along there is 20. But what is this? A bus has broken down - not nicely in the left hand lane, but right in the middle of the two lanes. It has clearly been there a while as the tow truck is there and there's a couple of people working on it. It has got its hazard lights on, but of course those lights just mean "I am parked" so no one thinks there might be a hazard. Cue much hard braking...

    I wonder how many times that happened before they got the bus shifted.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  24. CycleAlex
    Member

    #BeBrightBeSeen

    Posted 4 years ago #
  25. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    @CycleCommute.CC - Kudos for the BBC saying "BMW Driver" rather than "BMW" at least!

    Posted 4 years ago #
  26. crowriver
    Member

    In his defence, the BMW driver claimed that the pole "lacked situational awareness" and did not have its lights on.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  27. miak
    Member

    We get knocked off our bikes and we don't get dangerous driving thrown at the drivers, careless driving at best or usually no action.

    Clearly need to be reborn as an inanimate pole

    Posted 4 years ago #
  28. wingpig
    Member

    Edinburgh Coach Lines coach PSV 617, whose driver thought that ten feet behind a cyclist left a suitable margin for error at more than 20mph.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  29. Frenchy
    Member

    Driver pulled several yards over the give way line at the Grange Loan/Ratcliffe Terrace junction despite traffic in both directions on Ratcliffe Terrace.

    The cyclist in front of me pointedly continued in the bike lane, pulling up right next to the driver's window. This got the driver's attention, although despite giving the cyclist a dirty look they continued to creep forward, forcing me to serve even further out to get past.

    Posted 4 years ago #

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