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Today's rubbish driving...

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  1. gembo
    Member

    @ejstubbs - been that way twice this week and always wary

    Big Mercedes coming down from farm yesterday then 3 horse riders struggling with the gate before clubbiedean that has the puddle. As I am now studying with Leonard Cohen’s Zen Master I was super cool.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  2. Frenchy
    Member

    Got shouted at by a taxi driver here for using the road rather than the cycle path. I was heading west, so had priority - the taxi driver wasn't happy that they had to wait a few seconds.

    I used to use the path there, but for quite a while now it has been a pain to navigate this section, especially when one has a trailer, as I did today.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  3. unhurt
    Member

    the second link doesn't seem to show any cycle infra at all...

    Posted 4 years ago #
  4. Ribena
    Member

    Today’s rubbish driving... was brought to you by the young men in the front seat of a passing white Transit (with bonus ‘NHS heroes’ mural on the back doors) who honked and cheered at the teenage girls on Dundee Street this afternoon. I flicked them the finger but I don’t think they saw.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  5. edinburgh87
    Member

    No excuse for theft but isn't keeping an uninsured car on the public road also an offence?

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/brazen-gang-used-low-loader-steal-prized-bmw-2950060

    Posted 4 years ago #
  6. gembo
    Member

    Ah yes @Edinburgh87 but surely it is ok if you are just waiting to switch to a more suitable premium?

    I think the thieves realised this family had more than one car each and did a spot of redistributing?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  7. edinburgh87
    Member

    May be true gembo - for my (much less desirable) car I usually have been able to set the old policy to expire at 2359 and the new one kick in at 0000. Pretty well planned theft nevertheless.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  8. gembo
    Member

    @edinburgh87

    Yep, stolen to order. Guy should have taken action after it had been hot wired the day before.

    Wisdom of hindsight

    Posted 4 years ago #
  9. algo
    Member

    This morning a council van pulling a generator drove through the meadows turning right onto MMW and drove at me trying to barge me out of the way as I was going over the tactiles (in the wet) - I did not divert my line and expressed exasperation. This displeased the driver who then stopped to remonstrate. Once he had calmed down I tried my best to explain that a change of direction would likely have resulted in me falling off... no idea if that was understood. Pedestrian further up also upset so I suspect not the most sympathetic of driving in general.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  10. ejstubbs
    Member

    Alpine Paving truck being driven through Colinton Mains this morning: registration plate on the trailer it was towing did not match the towing vehicle, and the brake lights on the trailer were not working. It then egregiously cut the mini roundabout outside Tescos, followed by random and generally unhelpful use of indicators from there all the way to the bottom of Craiglockhart Avenue where it proceeded to straddle the lane separation white lines until finally choosing to turn left.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  11. minus six
    Member

    some real bad juju on the road these past three days

    but i am still alive and they are whatever

    Posted 4 years ago #
  12. pringlis
    Member

    Fairly shocking incident on Cluny Gardens yesterday where an (allegedly) speeding car flipped in front of the tennis courts.

    via https://twitter.com/EDIbikenick/status/1297887044312674305

    Anecdotally speeding on Cluny Gardens has increased massively since lockdown and it was only a matter of time until there was an incident. Latest I heard from the council is that the TRO for reducing Cluny Gardens/Greenbank Crescent/Oxgangs Avenue et al to 20mph is due to be published on 9th of September.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  13. jdanielp
    Member

    Yikes... I found myself cycling along there relatively often during 'strict' lockdown when it was nice and quiet, yet was still routinely overtaken rather too closely and way too quickly (but it took me a while to realise that it wasn't already a 20 mph area so had some false expectations). I haven't cycled there since lockdown eased.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  14. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I went along Cluny every day when I was at the Death Star. It was OK. My fear is that one or two people are now using rather too much cocaine.

    I'm told it's very hard to flip a modern car at 30mph.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  15. gembo
    Member

    Lot of undertaking at speed in restricted and unrestricted areas will often be cocaine driving. You can experience cocaine driving without charlie of course

    Posted 4 years ago #
  16. minus six
    Member

    there's no drug more ethically abhorrent than cocaine

    Posted 4 years ago #
  17. neddie
    Member

    I'm told it's very hard to flip a modern car at 30mph

    On a flat surface yes.

    But you only have to hit a parked car or similar raised surface and ride up on one side and...

    ooopsy daisy, over you go

    SUVs particularly good at this, since their raised height and greater ground clearance tends to make them ride up and over any "normal" height cars

    Campaign against high and wide and long auto cars

    CAHAWALAC

    #UnsafeAtAnySpeed

    Posted 4 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    For anyone who doesn’t know about that hashtag

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsafe_at_Any_Speed

    Posted 4 years ago #
  19. fimm
    Member

    @neddie I've seen an interesting video (dashcam possibly) of a car doing that while being driven slowly - possibly driver on phone, I don't know.

    Non-mobile link to the "Unsafe at any speed" article.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  20. ejstubbs
    Member

    @IWRATS: I'd have to say that my experiences on Cluny Gardens in recent weeks/months haven't been particularly bad as regards speeding. If anything I get the impression that the locals at least are already treating it as a 20 limit (which actually means that they do a bit less than 30, like in all the other 20 limits). I've certainly not seen any examples of outrageous speeding, but I do recognise that it only takes one such encounter to make one very sensitive to the behaviour of all drivers.

    There are some drivers who, for one reason or another (although having access to sackloads of cash obvious helps) simply DGAF. One young lad completely totalled his Merc in the process of demolishing a friend's front wall on Grange Road a while back. He called round to visit her a few days later, to apologise and to make sure that his insurance company was playing ball. He arrived driving a brand new, higher spec Merc (which he confirmed was the replacement for his wrecked one).

    Actually, on Cluny Gardens/Charterhall Road I more often get worried about drivers' simple carelessness and lack of attention/observation (ref my comments elsewhere about such around the parking area by Blackford Pond).

    Posted 4 years ago #
  21. Frenchy
    Member

    I associate Cluny Gardens more with close passes than I do with speeding.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  22. neddie
    Member

    A mandatory insurance excess of one month's salary would make drivers think a little bit harder before crashing...

    And the excess to be paid upfront, when taking the policy!

    Posted 4 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    Re the ejstubbs wall demolition story, perhaps it’s time people involved in such things were automatically banned until they could prove they were ‘safe’ to drive.

    Really time to dump the ‘unfortunate accident’ culture/excuse.

    Very unfortunate if a person, rather than a wall, gets ‘in the way’.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

  25. algo
    Member

    Appeal for witnesses seen on fb (click on image for bigger):



    Posted 4 years ago #
  26. ejstubbs
    Member

    Black BMW SUV proceeding westwards along Princes Street lunchtime today, completely ignoring the big, illuminated "No Entry" sign at the junction with South St David Street. As he passed me it became clearer why he might have failed to observe the sign: he was busy staring at "something" on his front passenger seat. Couldn't possibly have been a mobile phone, could it...

    Posted 4 years ago #
  27. ejstubbs
    Member

    Today's "of only a traffic officer had been present": Lunchtime today a Volvo estate piled high with Sainsbury's bags gaily waltzed along the 24-hour/7 days a week bus lane approaching Lanark Road then went straight through the traffic lights for the bus lane when they were at red.

    Almost as if no rules applied to them. Ever.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  28. wingpig
    Member

    My flatmate in first year arrived at uni with points already on his license for running through a red light, which was caught on a red light camera. Do we still have those, or do polices have to witness them live to count?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  29. gembo
    Member

    Gillespie X-road lights have a camera or did as several people I know can attest.

    What about the other phenomeon of Car stopped at lights even though they are green, less common but does happen?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  30. fimm
    Member

    Using Groathill Avenue for the bypass to the NEPN cycle path. I'm sitting in a queue of traffic at the red light. Light goes green and I stay in the queue and move off. The light goes amber before I get to it, so I slow down and stop. Driver of the red Audi behind me accelerates past me and through the light, which by now has gone red.

    Posted 4 years ago #

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