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Today's rubbish driving...

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  • Started 13 years ago by Stepdoh
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  1. gembo
    Member

    Stu. pendous

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

  3. MediumDave
    Member

    Bocage and sunken lanes are troublesome for armoured manouevres. The Santas were lucky no ATGM-equipped Grinch was nearby!

    The 12th Santa Motor Rifle Company should fit a Prong to at least one of their vehicles next time (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhino_tank)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    Police then discovered that the man was banned from driving, had no insurance and was carrying cannabis and knives.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/west-lothian-crime-police-catch-man-taking-drugs-in-stolen-car-in-bathgate-3966077

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    With the age of social media it has become a tourist attraction. People are driving there specifically to have a go at going through the ford. They don’t realise how deep it is and suddenly their car starts floating,

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/07/tiktok-car-fishing-craze-leads-to-closure-of-ancient-rufford-ford

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

  7. chdot
    Admin

  8. chdot
    Admin

  9. mcairney
    Member

    Just got t-boned at the Duddingston Row junction by a car turning right. Think I’ve got away relatively unscathed (quite a few cuts and bruises and my ankles a bit banged up. Was thankfully wearing a helmet on this occasion as it took a fair impact off the cars windscreen. Bike frame is practically folded in half though

    Posted 1 year ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    Doesn’t sound good

    Witnesses?

    Police?

    As ever, advice is get medical checkover - easier said than done these days unfortunately

    Posted 1 year ago #
  11. SRD
    Moderator

    aw crap. sorry to hear that mcairney. hope the car stopped.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  12. mcairney
    Member

    One witness thought they didn’t see the actual collision. Have exchanged details and driver was both apologetic and a bit shaken up. Hopefully things will be reasonably straightforward with insurers etc and my checkup will come back Ok .

    Posted 1 year ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    Sounds better, but…

    Get back on the bike - but not until you feel ready.

    Maybe a few rides with other people?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

  15. chdot
    Admin

    My ‘today’s near miss’ was on The Mound.

    Turning right into Market Street, stream of traffic coming up, so I stopped and waiting.

    Lights changed.

    Knew next car wouldn’t stop - as per Highway Code rule. Think it crossed the stop line on red.

    Wasn’t expecting taxi behind to blatantly go through the red.

    But i anticipated the possibility. Moved slightly towards Market Street. Taxi moved slightly to the left - don’t think there’s any chance he hadn’t seen me (or the red light).

    No I didn’t get a number.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    @ mcairney

    As you were injured, pretty sure driver is meant to report it.

    **I'm not a lawyer**

    Posted 1 year ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    About an hour earlier another car was found burnt-out on the Roseburn viaduct, which forms part of the cycle path. A passer-by sent a picture to the Evening News, but police said they were not aware of it.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-police-investigating-car-fire-close-to-roseburn-cycle-path-3992595

    That’ll be the Coltbridge Viaduct.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  18. acsimpson
    Member

    Were they also unaware of the police tape? Or was it just the picture that they were unaware of?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  19. fimm
    Member

    There was some chat about a car on fire up there on Facebook the other day - including that the police were struggling to work out how to get there but did eventually succeed!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  20. LaidBack
    Member

    @mcairney - Duddingston's a driver priority area so driver would be shocked that a cyclist was there (!) Good he stopped though and hope you're able to get back on your bike (replacement one though!!). Hope you recover fully.

    @chdot - Mound has more bikes so you might expect awareness but usually disappointed

    Posted 1 year ago #
  21. Morningsider
    Member

    @mcairney - nasty. I hope you are feeling okay today - sometimes the aches and pains only become apparent later.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  22. ejstubbs
    Member

    @chdot: As you were injured, pretty sure driver is meant to report it.

    Highway Code Rule 287:

    If another person is injured and you do not produce your insurance certificate at the time of the crash to a police officer or to anyone having reasonable grounds to request it, you MUST

    • report it to the police as soon as possible and in any case within 24 hours
    • produce your insurance certificate for the police within seven days.

    Law RTA 1988 sect 170

    (Underlining is mine: my understanding would be that producing your insurance certificate is more than just exchanging details as covered in Rule 286.)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  23. mcairney
    Member

    Hi folks,

    Mostly good news on the medical front. Have confirmed no broken bones and mainly superficial cuts and bruises. Biggest concern was the head impact with a concussion confirmed so taking it easy for now. Have exchanged phone numbers with the driver and have had a couple of texts back and forward but I forgot to take a note of his registration plate although I fully expect that his insurance company will need to get involved given the damage to his bonnet and windscreen (the latter rendering the car non-driveable as it's completely cracked). Waiting on a phone call where we can hopefully discuss next steps and I'll suggest reporting it to the police if only for statistics.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  24. gembo
    Member

    Glad you are ok @mcairney

    Watch for driver getting more reluctant when actual cost of bike revealed.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  25. kenny
    Member

    @mcairney Sounds worse than I imagined. Do ensure you take time to fully recover and I concur with gembo. Driver likely to scale back thoughts of guilt and empathy as time goes on. Happened to me after I was knocked off at the wee shiny nosed Bobby in 2009(?).

    Posted 1 year ago #
  26. mcairney
    Member

    Yeah I’m waiting with some trepidation for that discussion given it was a carbon framed bike with full Ultegra and carbon wheels :(

    Posted 1 year ago #
  27. Morningsider
    Member

    @mcairney - I would not deal directly with the driver for the reasons given. Get their insurance details and deal directly with the insurer, you will need to report the incident to the police.

    You could seek advice from a legal firm like Cycle Law Scotland, who can sort all this out on your behalf. Never done it myself, but I have heard good reports about them.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  28. gembo
    Member

    Cycle Law seem very good, though as with @morningsider I have never had to deal with. My views on cycle law are however based on reading their adverts…..? I would still use them as every previous incidence I have ever known dating back to 1987 when my mate was knocked over a hedge into a field near the Carbeth inn, the driver gets cold feet when the bill comes in. They can be coaxed to hold their nerve as are avoiding the loss of their No claims bonus. But my recall of @mcairney bikes is they are dear to replace?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  29. mcairney
    Member

    Hi all,
    Thanks for all the helpful advice. What insurance details do I need? I'm assuming it's just the name of the insurer and the reg plate I need? I already have the name and contact number of the driver.

    Will report to the police and go through British Cycling who provide a similar service and I'm already a member: https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/membership/article/memst-Incident-Helpline-0

    Bike wasn't cheap but I don't expect the cost to be that much of a factor if the insurer is dealing with things- it's not like the driver is paying directly out of his own pocket and from what I understand he's already contacted them to claim for the damage to his own vehicle!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  30. Morningsider
    Member

    All you need is the reg plate - you can then use the online Motor Insurance Bureau database to find the drivers' insurance details.

    See:

    https://www.mib.org.uk/check-insurance-details/check-a-vehicle-not-at-the-roadside-after-an-accident/

    You could ask for their insurer and policy number directly, if you reckon that won't spook them.

    Posted 1 year ago #

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