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Today's rubbish driving...

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  • Started 13 years ago by Stepdoh
  • Latest reply from the canuck

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  1. chdot
    Admin

    @ Frenchy

    Please report to LB.

    It used to be the case they took this seriously and checked CCTV and talked to drivers.

    They also reported back to complainant with an outline of what action they had taken - including ‘extra training’.

    Then they went ‘we won’t tell you what action we have taken’.

    Now?

    Would help if you knew time and bus (route number at least).

    You imply this ‘keeps happening’ so mention that.

    Plus highlight importance/significance of ‘around tram tracks’.

    (Above applies to anyone of course!)

    Other bus companies used to be worse, and probably still are, but don’t have as many buses/drivers in Ed.

    Posted 1 month ago #

  2. Frenchy
    Member

    Not LB on this occasion, and will definitely be reporting to the company.

    Posted 1 month ago #

  3. chdot
    Admin

    Ah!

    Good - and probably more vital to report.

    Posted 1 month ago #

  4. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Whatever good training Lothian Buses did in the past re cycles is long gone IMO. I had one a couple of weeks ago who had rolled into the George IV Bridge ASL (as they nearly all do now). The driver appeared to be using a handheld device as I passed the driver window (no head cam attached to double-check/report, unfortunately).

    I stopped in what remained of the ASL, following cyclists were finding it difficult to pass between my rear wheel and the bus, so I moved forward and gave the driver my best Paddington hard stare. He opened his window and started absolutely screaming at me. I can’t imagine what his passengers were thinking.

    Quite frankly, a person who absolutely should not be in charge of 14+ tonnes of bus. Professional drivers? Don’t make me laugh.

    Posted 1 month ago #

  5. ejstubbs
    Member

    @Frenchy: Not Rabbies Tours by any chance? They definitely have form at that exact location.

    Posted 1 month ago #

  6. Frenchy
    Member

    @ejstubbs - No, I think I'd skip the politely email stage with them.

    Posted 1 month ago #

  7. Arellcat
    Moderator

    In my experience, I would guess either Borders Buses or Stagecoach. BB are known for tailgating; SC for failure of observations.

    Posted 1 month ago #

  8. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2025/may/26/liverpool-car-collision-pedestrians-premier-league-football-parade

    Posted 3 weeks ago #

  9. stiltskin
    Member

    Hmmm. This should also be part of a 'not thinking things through' thread. They have banned right turns out of Turnhouse Road where it meets the Maybury Rd at the lights at Maybury. This now results in people pulling a U-turn to get to the Glasgow Rd. Unfortunately this takes them through the pedestrian/cycle crossing which is on green. Crap driving, but all rather predictable.

    Posted 3 weeks ago #

  10. acsimpson
    Member

    Any idea why they have banned that turn? With Craig's road also shut it leaves drivers the options of going the back road to Cammo, up the hill and round the roundabout or rat running through North Gyle.

    Posted 3 weeks ago #

  11. acsimpson
    Member

    I've just been sent the answer to my own question. Apparently it's due to the small number of cars which can turn right per phase of the lights causing Turnhouse Road to backup. So they have extended the green phase but forced them all to turn left instead.
    To fix the timing they need to upgrade the junction controller which has a 4 week lead time.

    Posted 3 weeks ago #

  12. stiltskin
    Member

    Are you telling me that nobody realised that building a huge housing development on the Turnhouse Road would put major pressure on a junction which has a very short phase and only allows 6 cars to get through.. Talk about a lack of planning.

    Posted 3 weeks ago #

  13. acsimpson
    Member

    The real issue is that they didn't force the developers to complete the Craig's Road junction before the houses. Turnhouse was never meant to be an exit for the houses and the current final plan has a bus gate to stop the new houses using it.

    Posted 3 weeks ago #

  14. Baldcyclist
    Member

    Just got this message from neighbour, it won't be the boy getting a clip round the ear for existing! How dare he have the audacity to pass by her on the main carriageway whilst she is trying to reverse out of her drive.

    Mrs B has sent a more restrained reply to her than I would have suggesting that cyclists/10 year old children as well as cars and vans have got right of way over her silly Rangerover trying to exit her drive.

    "Hi Mrs Baldcylist
    Just wanted to let you know that I just very near hit Angus with my car.
    I was 2/3rds reversed off the drive and I just caught him in the corner of my eye racing around the back of me on his bike when I hit the break.
    He gave me such a fright.
    He did put his hand up to say sorry and I think he will agree it was a silly move but I’m hoping he will be more careful cycling behind reversing cars.
    No harm done . Just give him a ‘clip round the ear’ from me"

    Posted 1 week ago #

  15. acsimpson
    Member

    Perhaps it's time for her to take a brake (sic) from driving.

    I would be asking her why she can't reverse into her
    driveway as advised by the highway code.

    Posted 1 week ago #

  16. bakky
    Member

    "Hi Mrs Baldcylist
    Just wanted to let you know that I just very near hit Angus with my car, because I wasn't paying enough attention.
    I was 2/3rds reversed off the drive and I just caught him in the corner of my eye because I hadn't been conducting my observations properly before or during the maneouvre racing around the back of me on his bike when I hit the brakes.
    He gave me such a fright, which of course should never happen if one is paying due attention while piloting a multi-tonne vehicle.
    He did put his hand up to say sorry because like all of our children, he is conditioned to understand drivers are volatile and everyone / everything else is mere obstacle and I think he will agree it was a silly move of mine to not pay due attention but I’m hoping he will be more careful cycling behind reversing cars realising that they're probably being poorly driven, and thus releasing me from any potential responsibility for what I'm doing.
    No harm done, not counting of course the fact that I've learned nothing from this experience that will help me exist in a society where vulnerable road users exist. Just give him a ‘clip round the ear’ from me, because it's important that by suggesting the corporal punishment of a child I underscore that my entire attitude could do with a thorough reeducation."

    Edited for accuracy.

    Posted 1 week ago #

  17. mcairney
    Member

    That's some bare-faced audacity right there! Maybe Karen should downsize to a vehicle more in keeping with her driving abilities, such as a Little Tikes Cozy Coupe? Although she might appreciate the improved visibility of a Kettler go-kart?

    Posted 1 week ago #

  18. SRD
    Moderator

    you just know she'll have some 'good reason' why she couldn't reverse into her drive...

    Posted 1 week ago #

  19. chdot
    Admin

    Yeah

    Like not running over her dog/child or hitting wall/fence/door…

    Posted 1 week ago #

  20. acsimpson
    Member

    Rule 201
    Do not reverse from a side road into a main road. When using a driveway, reverse in and drive out if you can.

    Perhaps it's not just her attitude which needs some extra education.

    Posted 1 week ago #

  21. Baldcyclist
    Member

    Yes, I wanted to tell her about rule 201 yesterday, but wife wouldn't let me. Confess I was furious last night, and the bit that annoys me most after the 2 or 3 messages that went round last night she still thinks she has done nothing wrong.

    Posted 1 week ago #

  22. jdanielp
    Member

    Yikes. Are the Tyre Extinguishers still active?

    Posted 1 week ago #

  23. bakky
    Member

    It's brutal needing to stay neighbourly with folk that have their heads in the sand. You have my sympathy!

    Posted 1 week ago #

  24. the canuck
    Member

    You have my sympathy too, there are days I'd like to put stickers on multiple windows with rule 201 printed large.

    today someone tried to pass me while we were only about 20 feet from a red light. To be fair, they gave me enough space, so I felt pretty safe putting on my "Wot the 'ell?" face.
    At which point they realised they were in the middle of a very narrow road with no exit and a lot of oncoming traffic.
    (Driver behind had ESP so stayed far enough back that a reversing maneouvre was possible.)

    Posted 6 days ago #

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