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  1. custard
    Member

  2. Ooh, it does. I'm interesting in Mr Wingpig's experiences, so waiting to see his vids to compare with those I have. But tonight I reckon I'll be placing an order.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. Stepdoh
    Member

    Two moments in the space of Ferry Road that made me think I had forgotten to take off my harry potter invisibility jammies.

    Nearly got cheesegrated on one of those handy corner fences when someone decided not to wait for the right turning vehicle in front and just pulled out into a very tight space. Full double brake back wheel off ground one that.

    Then some eidjit wanting to get into the fire station car park at crewe toll decided to turn across me then when we had both came to a shuddering halt, blithely wave me across like he was letting me in.

    Mixed with some close passes through corstorphine, it was just lovely today. Not like I'm riding a red bike, with lights and a white retroreflective jacket or anything.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. custard
    Member

    Anth,looking about. the Pro has a 30fps whereas the standard is 20-25
    worth noting if its maybe where the difference comes from

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. crowriver
    Member

    @custard, given that 25fps is the UK PAL video standard, 30fps seems unnecessary overkill only required for US NTSC (29.97fps) prosumers...

    Anyway the frame rate on Youtube is, what, 15fps?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. wingpig
    Member

    Plate-readability distance looks to be about a bus-length.

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    I've various bits of the mounting kit still sitting about somewhere if anyone does get one and they're still the same size.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. LivM
    Member

    I reported Co-op lorry NJ11 RXH travelling northbound on Leith Walk at 8.15am who was texting with both hands on the phone, not the wheel (steering with elbows...)
    No risk to me (I was coming out of a side turn) but (sadly believably) dangerous and illegal driving.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. Dave
    Member

    Cut up outside the Earl of Marchmont by a blind follower of the car in front - sorely tempted to go a little postal, but as I was on a borrowed bike and 10 feet from my destination... ;-)

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. Arellcat
    Moderator

    I was almost nearly taken out this morning when the car in front of me slowed and without indicating pulled to the left into the bus lane on the bottom part of Lanark Rd. I'd been following in primary so moved a little to my right to pass the car, which then indicated right and immediately swung across the road to enter a driveway! Ninja skillz meant I was hauling on the brakes as soon as the indicator came on.

    I think I might have exclaimed something a little bit rude, because if you don't even see a monstrousbike approaching your wing mirror you're probably not looking at all.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. Taxi driver (black cab) on mobile waiting at lights. I expected him to put it down as the lights went green and he had to navigate three cyclists ahead of him, with traffic on his right hand side. But no, happily nattering away. Too far away to read the numberplate in amongst all the other traffic, and camera had just been put in my bag (I caught a brief glimpsed snap).

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. custard
    Member

    Anth,thought you were ordering a new cam last night? ;)

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. T'was the big photo cam I was wielding this morning. Rnuning early, stopped to snap cyclists on Lothian Road.

    Would have been stunningly good delivery service to order the new helmetcam last night and have it to play with this morning :P

    Posted 12 years ago #
  13. custard
    Member

    cut across the cycle lane at fountainbridge/Lothian Road lights
    Had I moved up the lane,I would have been squished at the rails
    I held back as I expected the to do exactly what they did

    Posted 12 years ago #
  14. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Interesting one today - also witnessed by Tom/Cyclingmollie (forget which name he goes by these days), Amir and PS.

    Coming up the hill from Fordel Dean towards the Pencaitland road, just at the top (where the junction for A68 is) a large red pickup truck passed us then pulled in. Then as we got near (we weren't going very fast) an old, overweight farmer type (we'll call him Compo) got out and said something.

    Us: "Huh?"
    Compo: "The rest of you should be wearing yellow, like him"
    Us: "What?!?"
    Compo: "Wear a yellow vest so you can be seen"
    Me: (incredulously) "Oh, SHUT UP!"
    Compo: (grumpily) "It's only for your own safety, so you can be seen"
    PS: "You could try using your eyes?"

    And off we pedalled, rather shocked by this idiot's point of view. Clearly PS's white vest, Amir and Tom's bright red ERC tops and rider 5's red/black/white Castelli combo weren't visible enough. Despite the fact he obviously saw us in the first place to think he needed to stop and deliver his lecture.

    In hindsight should of suggested he painted his stupid oversized pickup truck yellow so we could see it.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  15. gembo
    Member

    Kapps if only I had been there. I was in bright yellow team tunnocks tea cake top when two separate incidents occurred on the same day with farmers in west Lothian where I must have Been invisible because they both drove into me as if I wasn't there. So must only be east Lothian where yellow is visible.

    interesting that he took the time to stop and give you his point of view

    Posted 12 years ago #
  16. Tom
    Member

    How the conversation should have gone:

    Compo: "Wear a yellow vest so you can be seen"
    Kaputnik: "Did you hear something?"
    PS: "Yes, someone shouting but I've no idea where it came from".
    Kaputnik: "That's odd. If only everyone would wear yellow vests then we could see each other properly".

    Posted 12 years ago #
  17. Tom
    Member

    There are actually four cyclists in this picture:


    On the road to Redstane by Cycling Mollie, on Flickr

    Posted 12 years ago #
  18. Instography
    Member

    I can only see one.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  19. wingpig
    Member

    Definitely only one. Count the mudguards then divide by two, that's how I worked it out.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  20. Uberuce
    Member

    I had my nearest collision avoidance to date on Friday; nothing fancy, just a van driver who I will guess decided to turn left on a whim and hadn't thought to indicate, almost hooking me in the process.

    For 10 months cycling on Edinburgh's much bemoaned roads, and with my specdonkulously high level of clumsy distractofail, that's pretty good going.

    Really need to get better brakes on the black fixed.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  21. Min
    Member

    Turning right into Cornwallis Place from Rodney Street - why do so many drivers go out of their way to make sure I am getting in their way when the road is so wide that i am not inconveniencing them at all?

    This morning I turn round to see what is going on behind. There is a bus at the bus stop and a car about to pass it. Miles away they are. I signal and move across to the white line. There is traffic coming the other way so I slow down. Next thing I hear is a horn (I think coming from the bus) I turn my head and car driver is swerving round me having just been tailgating rather than just driving past on the left and continuing their journey and allowing bus to do the same.

    Why?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  22. With westbound Morrison Street being closed at the mo you'd link the left hand lane on Semple Street would be clear.

    Oh no, not a jot. Whether the drivers didn't notice the big yellow signs, and declarations of no-left-turn, or were wilfully ignoring them, there are a few who race up the left to try and cut in on the rest of the (stationary, queued) traffic in the two right turn lanes.

    A woman in a Saab 900 was especially keen to squeeze by me so she could wait in the queue 50 yards ahead.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  23. Dave
    Member

    This morning a numpty tried to undertake me in the bus lane when I was indicating left from the normal lane (near Ocean Terminal, just after the contraflow from ASDA).

    I pulled out from the bottom of the Roseburn (whatever it's called) into the eastbound lane, and then signalled to move across into the bus lane to get out of the way, and they, coming from the contraflow in the bus lane, actually sped up!

    They bottled it in the end and I moved across, then they roared past only to get stuck at the lights, so I was already locked up and off the bike before they pulled into my office car park.

    Trying to decide whether a sternly worded note would be appropriate...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  24. Light metallic blue Punto that tailgated me all the way through Mountcastle, and past the school on Northfield Broadway (all 20mph limits, NB when lights flashing as the school is kicking in/out). At junction at end of NB then moved left to turn left (not indicating) only to realise the reason I was staying right was because there was a parked car there that she couldn't see due to aforementioned tailgating.

    Heading to Jock's Lodge, I braked early and softly for the queue of traffic ahead because she was tailgating again and knowing she paid no attention to the road ahead (see parked car above) I didn't want her not realising I was going to brake and run into the back of me. She stopped straddling the bus lane and the car lane, blocking both.

    All this while I was in the car rather than on the bike. Does make you realise that bad driving around you on the bike is not necessarily because of your transport choice.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  25. wingpig
    Member

    You were in the car, but what was attached to the roof? You might as well have taped a sign saying "harass me" to the boot.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  26. The bike lives at Mel's work (covered cycle parking) overnight when I'm running her to and from work - means I don't have to be faffing about with the bike on and off the roof every morning and night.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  27. Dave
    Member

    A great point, something I often say to people who're thinking about cycling is "people drive terribly around you in your car, so don't expect them to change to angels just because you take up less road space"

    Posted 12 years ago #
  28. Min
    Member

    The driver of the bus into work this morning was by far the most dangerous I have ever seen, probably from any company never mind Lothian Buses. He kept taking off from bus stops when cyclists were trying to pass him, tailgated so staggering close to cyclists. There was one in particular, I don't think I have ever seen anyone so close to being dragged under the wheels of a bus before. But did he back off? No of course not, he just skimmed past a few inches away. By far the most stressful bus journey I have had. I'll be writing in. It will also give me a long overdue chance to praise them for their normally excellent drivers while I'm at it.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  29. kaputnik
    Moderator

    @min I hope it's another driver "convicted" by his own CCTV system. You have to wonder about the competence of an individual to be in charge of a public vehicle carrying perhaps 70 or 80 passengers when they can't even remember their every action is being caught on camera.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  30. Min
    Member

    Yes I am pretty sure the fisheye right at the front will show the tailgating, unless he was so close that the cyclists can't actually be seen...

    Posted 12 years ago #

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