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  1. Kirst
    Member

    Nah, cockwomble is well known on YACF. Not original at all!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. recombodna
    Member

    best plagiarized insult of the week then. hey this is the internets nothing is original any more...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. minus six
    Member

    There are far too many young radges driving around Edinburgh with no idea whatsoever how to behave around vulnerable road users, other than use their vehicle to try to bully them off the road and out of their way.

    On days like today with heavy rain, the combination can be lethal.

    The main bother is that many of these young guys don't even realise they are doing anything illegal.

    That's how much the implied hierarchy of road use is, by default, drummed into the minds of simple minded folk by the authorities.

    It makes me very angry.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. Ah well, email of complaint will be going to Lothian Buses today...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. custard
    Member

    tell,tell!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. Letter will have the detail, but basically squeezed out on George Street. He knew I was there, but seemed to think driving six inches form my elbow was acceptable.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. Kirst
    Member

    Heading north(ish) on Duddingston Park South, planning to turn right at the junction onto Milton Road, positioned myself in the right hand lane well in advance. Approaching red lights, blue Citroen SL08 EBZ undertook me, cut in front of me, parked himself in the ASL box waiting to turn right. I filtered through, parked myself in front of him (still in the box) - partly to give myself a chance of getting through the junction on the first change of lights, partly to make a point. Lights go green, I move forward and position myself in the road to turn right once the oncoming traffic clears. Blue Citroen SL08 EBZ doesn't want to wait behind me, so he moves forward, positions himself alongside me and overtakes me as I turn. The man's a fud.

    Also, First Bus.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. Greenroofer
    Member

    Some good, some bad. The BMW gave me lots of room. What was the white van thinking? He'd been itching to get by since before the bridge, but honestly...

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    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. Uberuce
    Member

    It's the pointless ones like that actually annoy me more than the careless. He gained zero point nothing in that move. Grr.

    Today I had my first rubbish driving experience from a trucker, which in just under a year of daily commuting, albiet at a humble 46 milliGodwins, is better than the rest of vehicle types.

    Dear Mr Blue Artic With Dutch Company Name I Forget Driver,
    That overtake just after the lights at Fountainbridge/Viewforth? Me. No. Likey.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. SBF
    Member

    Got "Wanker!" shouted at me by some teenage neds in a souped-up Nova last night. I feel like I've achieved some sort of rite of passage.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. Booo! I've still not been shouted at like that.

    This morning's rubbish driving wasn't actually directed at me. Had someone behind as I came up Mountcastle who was very patient indeed, and then onto Northfield Broadway passed me with plenty room, and sticking to the 20mph limit that was indicated by the flashing lights on the sign saying it was school time.

    The car behind however... An aggressive Kia Cee'd, tailgating (seriously, a metre behind the bumper of the car in front, and often less) and then as the road straightened flung out and overtook. In a 20 zone. Around a school.

    And only 100 yards from a junction as well and queuing traffic in both directions from it.

    Muppet.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. Uberuce
    Member

    Had a yoof shout either 'razor' or 'racer' at me. I'll guess the former.

    I also believe the terribly grumpy looking young man I passed on the Union towpath yesterday muttered at me to have sex with someone called Off. Might have been Orff; perhaps a descendent of the Carmina Burana composer?

    I was utterly gutted that I'd given away all the POP28 flyers I took to Porto-Velo's ride or else I'd have done my impression of Mini-SRD On The Case to him.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  13. Dave
    Member

    Cycling across the QBC ultimate junction -at the southern end- from south to north, the driver behind switched to the left filter lane to try and undertake me, but failed (I recumbented at them).

    Expected it to be a private hire or maybe a sales repmobile, but it was a granny </baffled>.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  14. The single worst example of insane driving I have ever witnessed first hand was a granny. But she was French, in France, so it all made a bit more sense... ;)

    Posted 12 years ago #
  15. crowriver
    Member

    Yep. Pensioners can be dangerous. They're one of the few groups of drivers who may genuinely not be able to see you, which is frightening thought. If I see an oldster stopped at side junction waiting to turn (into me?) I try to give them a wide berth!

    I've had verbals from passing neds so many times I've lost count. I recall there were a lot of wags around following the TdF doping scandals a few years ago. Every second joiner's van or Vauxhall this-that-or-the-other would belt out "Oi mate! Are you on drugs? Ha ha ha!" before roaring off. Hilarious.

    Never had anything thrown at me, which I understand can happen, but a few winscreen washer squirts have been on target: the 'fun' equivalent of the punishment pass.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

  17. crowriver
    Member

    Never had you down as a Sun reader, chdot! Anyhow, 12 million for a sat nav to assist old folk who are 'nervous' about driving due to failing eyesight, etc.? They should not be on the road at all!

    Attaching a condition to driving licenses, say, compulsory annual eye tests for drivers over 50 would make the roads much safer.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  18. I remember a while back there was a call for road sign lettering to be made larger so that people who couldn't see so well could still read them.

    My initial thought was the same as Crowriver's there - if they can't read the signs as they are they shouldn't be on the road!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  19. Instography
    Member

    There's some interesting American research about older drivers and how highways authorities are having to redesign aspects of the roads to deal with the post-war generations who have grown up in communities entirely designed around cars and where it would be extremely isolating to just take their cars away. It's easily said but the impact would be terrible.

    Shortly before she died I was contemplating the issue with my brothers as my mum's health and motor skills were declining. To take her car away was, in effect, to lock her in the house.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  20. All the same we do need some sort of control on making sure some people aren't actually a danger when behind the wheel because they can't see properly or the like...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

    "Never had you down as a Sun reader, chdot!"

    Mostly true! Heard this one on Today this morning, Google didn't find it.

    "Anyhow, 12 million for a sat nav to assist old folk who are 'nervous' about driving due to failing eyesight, etc.? They should not be on the road at all!"

    Quite.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  22. SRD
    Moderator

    "Shortly before she died I was contemplating the issue with my brothers as my mum's health and motor skills were declining. To take her car away was, in effect, to lock her in the house."

    Many people will relate, and also to how tenaciously people who associate their mobility/freedom with car deny that they are no longer safe. But for many families this is just a tough decision that has to be made.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  23. crowriver
    Member

    It's easily said but the impact would be terrible.

    Perhaps for folk who live in more rural areas, yes. For the majority, convenience may possibly be an issue but it's not really a huge problem for mobility: free bus passes are handy things for older folk.

    how tenaciously people who associate their mobility/freedom with car deny that they are no longer safe.

    This is the real problem for most people. Very few live more than a short amble away from a bus route. Bus services may not be at ideal frequency in some areas outside the larger cities and towns, and may take longer/require changes. However if anyone has time to travel by bus, it's retired folk.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  24. custard
    Member

    Never had anything thrown at me, which I understand can happen, but a few winscreen washer squirts have been on target: the 'fun' equivalent of the punishment pass.

    I recall having that once from a car near the Morning Glory(and a very close pass while doing it).
    unfortunatly for them.

    A: traffic ahead
    B: I had just got back on the road from a jammed chain
    C: The chain (and as such my gloves)was covered in Finish line wet lube

    I wonder how long it took to clean that windscreen.......

    Posted 12 years ago #
  25. splitshift
    Member

    bad, bad bad ! I like !
    size 9 steel toe cap to the door skin has twice done the same job !
    Was once "attacked" by a numptie with a fishing rod via passenger window of a mondeo,i grabbed it and threw it away ! Then i dissapeared up an ally, they wernt best pleased ! the mondeo numpties, you understand, not ally !(realises that is wrong on so many levels ! agh too late ! )

    Posted 12 years ago #
  26. Boff
    Member

    I think some people see cyclists as legitimate targets for a bit of a laugh or what they see as a practical joke. Obviously the humour doesn't go both ways all the time. I was pelted with an egg from the rear of a car on Ferry Road a few years ago and turned around to give chase. Not sure what I'd have done if I caught up to it as it had four guys in it and I'm useless in a fight. That's the only time something like that has happened to me. I wonder if reading about other people's experience in a forum like this makes us think that it is more common than it is?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    "
    Carlton Reid ‏ @carltonreid

    What stuff have you seen thrown from moving cars? How prevalent? Going on BBC Radio West Midlands soon.

    12:47 PM - 1 May 12 via TweetDeck

    "

    Posted 12 years ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

  29. recombodna
    Member

    I had a shopping trolley dropped off a bridge at me on the ferry road cycle path. It missed.....just!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  30. PS
    Member

    DE11 HDN, taxi number 116 - one of those inferior van-style taxis. Maybe mid-40s, thinning hair, cut close.

    Had been behind him since the traffic lights in from of Old College (where he'd stopped in the ASL). Lights red at the bottom of North Bridge by the Balmoral and he'd managed to apply the brake this time so he was only a couple of feet into the ASL, so I pulled in in front of him.

    Lights changed, I push off pretty smartly and follow the lane towards the Leith Street lights. As I do so, lots of engine noise behind and he goes to overtake by swinging into the Waterloo Place lane and swinging back over once he's (just) beyond.

    I raise my right hand palm up in a "what are you doing?" gesture. He slows right down, blocking the junction, obviously wanting a chat. I sit back as there's only a couple of feet to pass on the left. He inched forward a but, now three feet on the left, so through I ride, and he shouts:
    "What's you problem, pal?".
    "What?"
    "What's your problem, pal?"
    "Interesting manoeuvre."

    At which retort, accompanied by a quizzical look from me as I keep pace with his open window, he stares at me a bit, checks his mirror (maybe checking whether his fare thinks he's mental, but she's studiously staring at her mobile), and accelerates away.

    Can only assume he's had a bad day, poor love.

    Posted 12 years ago #

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