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"Major new £500,000 cycle route to be wheeled out through city"

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  1. chdot
    Admin

     "
    PLANS have been unveiled for a major new cycle route, which will connect the city centre with south Edinburgh.
    "

    http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Major-new-500000-cycle-route.6836173.jp

    "unveiled" - we've been talking about it here for months...

    Posted 13 years ago #
  2. Arellcat
    Moderator

    "Last Updated: 14 September 2011 10:25 AM"

    And still no comments!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  3. wingpig
    Member

    Nice comment-bait with the mention of the increased-from-original cost and the cheeky reference to RLJers.

    Doesn't refer to it as the Quality Bike Corridor anywhere. Still time to get it renamed the KB2CCQCC...

    Posted 13 years ago #
  4. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Another north/south route that we can spend money on just to sever, just like NCN 1/75/76 have been severed at top of Dublin Street and now at foot of Mound.

    Apart from that, good news! Any investment in cycle routes should be seen of as a positive thing. From tiny acorns...

    Posted 13 years ago #
  5. Roibeard
    Member

    They cut out the middle man to put the obligatory RLJ comment in the article itself...

    I'm sure the "road tax" dodger quote was removed by a subeditor, but will reappear anyway!

    <vbg>

    Robert

    Posted 13 years ago #
  6. amir
    Member

    Yes - that comment was really patronising. I can't remember anyone saying anything similar about motorists with respect to the M74 extension.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  7. Dave
    Member

    What are they going to do at the Missoni? Hopefully (but I'm guessing not) removal of the right filter lane...

    Posted 13 years ago #
  8. mgj
    Member

    I hope they don't; I and quite a lot of others turn right there every day.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    "I hope they don't; I and quite a lot of others turn right there every day."

    I would be (fairly) surprised if they try to introduce a right turn ban for bikes.

    Banning other vehicles is certainly a possibility - though that would mean more vehicles turning right off The Mound, which might be even more of a problem for people cycling up it.

    Of course they could put the pavement back the way it was - but that would mean upseting a 5 star tourist business.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  10. holisticglint
    Member

    Does anyone know how this and other public works end up costing so much? I suspect it is legal fees to make new road markings enforceable but can anyone confirm?

    BTW - Comments are reaching a whole new level of mental:

    Do cyclists who emit CO2 when they're stationary (unlike a car which does not) have to pay for a parking permit?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  11. mgj
    Member

    Right turn filter lanes are more of a safety feature for cyclists than they are for cars, surely. They must reduce risks to cyclists more than small red strips in the gutter.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  12. amir
    Member

    I would agree that more right turn filter lanes are needed. You can feel so exposed waiting to turn while the traffic is zooming past on the left.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  13. Dave
    Member

    In this case every cyclist going into town has to deal with buses, trucks, and taxis crowding on top of them because there's only a lane and a half, of which the bulk is a right filter that almost nobody uses.

    If it was a mandatory right turn for cyclists I'd be a great fan of it, but it's not - almost everyone goes straight on when I'm there.

    How about a petite shielded right filter for bikes, then, and one lane for cars (straight on)?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  14. ruggtomcat
    Member

    Your forgetting where that right turn leads, it may be a cul-de-sac but its goes to many important buildings. I see a lot of traffic there all day.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  15. cb
    Member

    Comment 24 is good! ;)

    Posted 13 years ago #
  16. mgj
    Member

    If the options at any junction are between having a turn right filter lane and an ignored strip of red paint, give my the filter anyday, particularly at the top of a rise.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  17. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Your forgetting where that right turn leads, it may be a cul-de-sac but its goes to many important buildings.

    Yes are we seriously expecting judges or toon cooncilors to park their cars anywhere but right infront of the door to the High Court / City Chambers?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  18. Dave
    Member

    The obvious counterpoint is that for a year there was no right turn there as they built the hotel. The world didn't end.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  19. mgj
    Member

    No, but it was a * to get out into the right hand lane to turn right and as you are at the top of a rise, you spent the whole time worrying that someone wouldnt have spotted you and would shunt you from behind. A filter lane feels much more of a safety support than any widely ignored bit of red paint. Remember also that the Royal Mile is restricted to bicycle traffic for much of the day (although today I'd just redone my tyres and it was not much fun going down it)

    Posted 13 years ago #
  20. ruggtomcat
    Member

    did you spot me? In the morning there is heaps of traffic while the bollards are down, and there are taxis up and down there all day.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  21. Dave
    Member

    "A filter lane feels much more of a safety support than any widely ignored bit of red paint."

    Isn't the point that the cycle lane is ignored *because* the filter lane pushes motorised traffic into it?

    Even I drive in the cycle lane outside the Missoni, and I'm more than averagely inclined to look out for cyclists.

    Or to put it another way - if the situation was reversed (think of somewhere in town with a well-observed cycle lane but people have to turn right normally), and the suggestion was made to remove the cycle lane to add a right filter, there would be a bit of an outcry.

    However, I don't really know what proportion of cyclists turn right here. I perceive it as a small minority profiting at the expense (as it were) of everyone else, but it may be the other way around, in which case the filter lane over the cycle lane would be the smart option.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    Route map and some details -

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1682#post-47808

    Posted 13 years ago #
  23. recombodna
    Member

    I can't wait to see how crappy this will be. Hope I'm proved wrong.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  24. minus six
    Member

    Yesterday I cycled the route of the proposed "quality bike corridor" from Bristo Square, and right on through to Bilston, to see how it would fare as a daily commute.

    The road is in absolutely appalling condition! My commiserations to anyone who uses this route regularly.

    I'll stick to the good old Fife-Edinburgh commute, which I'm now seeing in a whole new positive light.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  25. wingpig
    Member

    The top end of Buccleuch Street's not yet detiorated too much since it was relaid a few years ago. On the other hand Summerhall Place is evilly rutted and made my light bounce out of the bracket this morning.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    Yesterday -

    No idea if that was part of QBC work - bit shambolic though.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  27. amir
    Member

  28. amir
    Member

    Work going on in earnest on QBC in Mayfield Road outside KB.

    There is a new safety reservoir for those turning right into Gate 4 of the campus.

    A bike lane has been painted in south of this - this is too narrow, especially for going downhill at speed, and the surface is a bit dodgy.

    However further north they are resurfacing where the bike lane will be. Still a bit narrow - but smooth!

    Posted 13 years ago #

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