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Citycycling Issue 6
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Posted 12 years ago #
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"Copenhagen" link on the front leads to Issue 5's Madam Raven section.
BAGH. Missed a typo. "otehr" must be in Chrome's dictionary for some reason.
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Decision: sit at my desk and read .cc, or sit at my desk and do work...
Posted 12 years ago # -
I'm at a workshop....both seems to be an option :)
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My experiences of work-related workshops is that they involve neither work nor shopping. Nor metal bashing or the use of big tools, which would be far more enjoyable way to spend a day.
Posted 12 years ago # -
all true, but in this case it is preferable to sitting in office and dealing with freshers....
Posted 12 years ago # -
Dunno where Anth went cycling in Amsterdam. Maybe a few streets in the very centre of the city. I've been cycling in Amsterdam for the last 20 years and can safely say there are a plethora of segregated cycle lanes both in the city and between cities. ;-)
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By no means universal though...
Posted 12 years ago # -
because in holland they have zoned transport, everything gets mixed together as soon as you enter local residential areas, with small roads, a rough surface and 20kmph limits. as the limit goes up so the traffic becomes more segregated until you get to the motorway where the cyclepath is separated by a 6ft concrete wall.
I suspect Anth was put off by cycing in Dam traffic, which is like driving in Rome on a miniature scale. Hairy for us rule bound island types.
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My experience of cycling in the 'dam
Covered a fair expanse of the city by bike. Around our hotel, near the station, there were a lot of segregated lanes - riding out to the Rijksmuseum, not so much.
Interesting point ruggers, thinking back to it we took small roads a lot of places, whereas the bigger roads saw more segregation. Marc van Woudenberg (Mr Amsterdamize) was very enlightening over a couple of beers.
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...you get to the motorway where the cyclepath is separated by a 6ft concrete wall.
A cycle path last month:
That's the A64 near Tadcaster, and that traffic is doing 70mph. :-/
Posted 12 years ago # -
with a nice fence for the smearing!
Posted 12 years ago # -
Some suggestion from Madam Raven that bent users may have enlarged prostrates (in the future).
Tadcaster - home of the great Samuel Smith's. Used to by-pass it on way to Flamborough Head.
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This is a slightly better one (wider) - near Leven. BUT not far enough away from the traffic to avoid spray!
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The advice given by Madam Raven on the legality of children cycling on the pavement is wrong.
Anyone riding a bike on a footway (pavement) in Scotland is committing an offence under the provisions of Section 129(5) of the Roads (Scotland) Act 1984. These offences are usually enforced through a police officer issuing a fixed penalty notice.
Police would normally use their discretion when dealing with children cycling on the pavement - i.e. not do anything.
While fixed penalty notices can be issued to those of an age of criminal responsibility (i.e. 8+ in Scotland)*, the sanctions for failing to pay such a notice are normally enforced through the adult justice system. It is difficult to envisage a situation where failure to pay a fixed penalty notice issued for cycling offences is enforced through the children's hearing system. In practice this means that sanctions for cycling offences normally apply only to adults.
*The Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Act 2010, Section 52 establishes that no-one aged under 12 can be prosecuted for an offence. However, the age of criminal responsibility remains at 8, i.e. anyone aged under 8 cannot be guilty of an offence, as set out in Section 41 of the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995.
Posted 12 years ago # -
Where does the land reform act stand on this?
Posted 12 years ago # -
Wherever it likes?
*tshhh*Posted 12 years ago # -
@Morningsider
Indeed, and I was hoping that someone might pick her up on it (and no, Madam Raven is not me...)
Posted 12 years ago # -
Good magazine Anth. Enjoyed it. A fine distraction from work.
Posted 12 years ago # -
Cops ride on the pavement in/out of our school car park. It's across the pavement, not along it.
Posted 12 years ago # -
WFB - riding or driving across a pavement is legal (Roads (Scotland) Act 1984, S 129 5(a)).
My last post is (ahem) not too clear. What I should have said is - anyone under 12 can ride on the pavement without fear of prosecution.
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Well I'd suggested the access to property option before but there was a feeling that it only applied to motor vehicles.
Next time I see the local bike cops do it I can ask them.
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BTW. PDF version is handy, I can put it on an iPad and read it anywhere.
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WFB - yeah, I remember seeing that somewhere in the forum as well. Anyway, I checked it out and the law states that the following is an exception to the general prohibition on riding/driving on a pavement:
"where and in so far as the vehicle or animal is being taken across the footway, footpath or cycle track"
So it all depends on your definition of "taken". Personally, I would see that as allowing a bike to be ridden across a pavement rather than pushed, because it is the same exception that allows drivers to cross the pavement, and no-one makes them get out and push.
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