CityCyclingEdinburgh was launched on the 27th of October 2009 as "an experiment".
IT’S TRUE!
CCE is 16years old!
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It soon became useful and entertaining. There are regular posters, people who add useful info occasionally and plenty more who drop by to watch. That's fine. If you want to add news/comments it's easy to register and become a member.
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I loved this comment on the EN site today - thought it deserved a thread of its own
"Also why SPOKES werare always invited into any discussion of the trams at the very inception stage rght through to it's end game. Unfair ? SPOKES had to approve almost every stage of the tram fiasco, we can add this lot to those who are to blame."
So now we know, SPOKES are to blame for the trams as they are part of the approval process...
Bezmajtek is the new alternative fuel-heid!
"the amount of subsidy,grant and CEC cash spent on a small minority is criminal. Never mind schools,leisure centres,social care etc,as long as these eco subsidy junkies get their way and cash, they are happy. They really do count themselves as a special case, to one side of normal ordinary folk. This might not be so bad if they came out into the open and supported Green party or fielded their own candidates, but to use people in pwer who masquerade as libdems or whatever, is cowardly and contemptible. Come right out and put your money where your mouth is, enter into the democratic process, instead of wheedling yorselves in via the back door of pretence and subterfuge."
Hehe. Spokes had the power to approve or reject every detail of the trams, we all know that. They're so powerful that we now speak their name thus: SPOKES!
"How anyone with sight impairment, or using a wheelchair etc will navigate Edinburgh's crowded pavements without harm or injury never seems to enter SPOKES thinking. The fuss that was made about a few A boards on the High Street, and now this.Sheer dogma driven hypocrisy, and at the public expense,let's not forget."
"So now we know, SPOKES are to blame for the trams as they are part of the approval process..."
There are people who criticise Spokes for being in favour of trams on the Roseburn Corridor. Spokes has always been in favour of walking and PT. Spokes probably is responsible for making sure that there would still be a walk/cycle route at the side if the tram there - however unsatisfactory that might have been in practice.
Spokes also campaigned hard to get bikes allowed on trams. Spokes also part-paid for someone to come from The Netherlands to explain to tie/CEC how to have cycle lanes with the tram on Leith Walk.
tie/CEC didn't take any notice.
I can safely say that no-one at Spokes ever got £100k+ salaries, pay offs and pensions!!
'We' do have to keep highlighting the fact that this is not (just) about 'special treatment' for 'us'. The fact that 'motoring' is normal for the minority who do it does not mean that they are more important than the (currently) smaller minority who cycle.
More people walk and take buses - they hardly get a look-in in this (still) car obsessed society.
I remain confident that none of the Parties in Edinburgh will try to become the 'motorist's friend'. Fortunately the main motoring organisations have not supported less restriction on urban car use for some years.
Campaign groups and individuals have to be clear why restricting car use and encouraging other forms of transport is in (most) people's interest.
The fact that it's possible to blame 'cyclists' for causing 'disadvantage' to drivers shows that we are some way from 'common sense'. So congatulating politicians (even if you don't like their party) is a good idea!
"Cost can be measured in monies given to minority pressure groups and job creation shemes for otherwise unemployable posh kids @ Bike Station and the employment of 3 cycling officers by CEC(a 100% increase year on year by the way). Most cyclistpedestrian accidents go unreported or unmeasured, as the miscreant usually does not stop,but cycles on with no way to identify them later. As for crazed connsiracy theories, I think the photo op of Cllr Mackenzie grinning @ us from these pages, tell the lie to this one. If you want to have something, then for goodness sake come clean with the public @ elections, and NOT use public subsidy and other underhand methods, simples."
If SPOKES were as powerful as claimed, couldn't they have got the council to spend £800m on cycling infrastructure rather than the trams.
Those comments are cracking. Some absolute mentalists.
I like the idea that we should only be able to vote for green MPs and that the lib dem MPs are just greens masquerading as Liberals to get elected and impose their anti-car agenda after election. Fantastic.
"How anyone with sight impairment, or using a wheelchair etc will navigate Edinburgh's crowded pavements without harm or injury never seems to enter SPOKES thinking"
If this was any more than a perile atempt to take some kind of moral high ground the writer would know that what helps people on bicycles to get around more easily - separated lanes on roads, dropped kerbs, paths - also help people in wheelchairs.
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