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Former chief constable lambasts motorists

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  • Started 13 years ago by crowriver
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  1. crowriver
    Member

    I couldn't quite believe it myself! L&B chief moving on says his biggest regret is the number of road deaths.

    "3. What has been your biggest disappointment in the post?

    Despite the reduction of road casualties being a key operational priority for the force, and despite all the hard work we put in with local authorities and other partners, nearly 200 people have died on the roads of Lothian and Borders over the past five years, nine of them children and two of them my colleagues; over 2,350 people have been seriously injured in the same period. The indescribable pain, loss and cost to wider society can hardly be overstated yet we, as a society, continue to appear to regard these dreadful statistics as just an unfortunate cost of access to individual transport. The Evening News would rightly devote many column inches to such loss if it arose from violence but these crashes often merit no more than a paragraph or two on an inner page.

    I have sat with bereaved families in the immediate aftermath of such tragedies and sometimes wish that the self-styled ‘law-abiding and tax-paying motorists’ who write to me to complain that they have been caught speeding by a mobile safety camera van that was positioned ‘unfairly’, or who treat my road policing colleagues to the glib question ‘shouldn’t you be catching real criminals?’ could see the outcome of the circumstances that come together to cause death on our roads.

    If more time were spent on learning advanced driving skills rather than composing letters as to why speed in itself does not kill (no, but impact does and it is a matter of physics rather than opinion that a heavy metal object will create more damage the higher the speed at which it impacts with another object) then our roads would be safer. It is quite plain from the standard of driving that I and my colleagues see on our roads on a daily basis that far too many people have not improved since their initial driving test; that speed limits, braking distances and the need for a clear view before overtaking do not apply to them; that very few have even the sketchiest idea of the physical forces acting on a vehicle in motion and still fewer seem to think it matters.

    I have often read in your letters pages that some people feel that ‘the police should not be able to choose the laws they enforce’. Well, the same is true for obedience to road traffic law. If you don’t want to be caught for speeding, driving while using a mobile phone, drink driving… Don’t do it."

    Also has a go at the chipwrapper's resident commenters!

    "Nothing is ever perfect and we can all find things in our lives or surroundings that we would change for the better but I confess that I do sometimes find myself baffled by the somewhat gloomy contributions of your webchat columns in your online edition. Edinburgh is a fantastic city and the whole area of Lothian and Borders offers a tremendous range of history, scenic beauty, cultural achievement and a quality of life to rival any in the UK. Perhaps it takes an outsider to see things from a different perspective but I would ask any of Edinburgh’s detractors, if not here then in which other city in the UK do you think you would enjoy a safer and richer environment?"

    http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/my_biggest_regret_still_far_too_many_road_deaths_1_1201003

    Posted 13 years ago #
  2. That's utterly brilliant.

    Of course it would be easy to question why, given he has these opinions, LBP's attitude towards road safety (viz. we won't enforce 20mph zones...) wasn't different...

    Posted 13 years ago #
  3. Min
    Member

    Wow.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    Impressive - so what is he going to do??

    As anth implies - no obvious policy changes while he was in charge of L&B.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  5. wingpig
    Member

    "...yet we, as a society, continue to appear to regard these dreadful statistics as just an unfortunate cost of access to individual transport" and "...very few have even the sketchiest idea of the physical forces acting on a vehicle in motion and still fewer seem to think it matters."

    Nice police; a sense of proportion and an awareness of physics. Comments not enabled on that article, interestingly.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  6. crowriver
    Member

    Well it is plain from his opinions that he views individual responsibility from drivers as the solution, rather than infrastructure design, lower speed limits, etc. I suppose the police just see the never ending struggle against idiotic drivers, and perhaps don't see the "bigger picture" that the infrastructure needs to be designed to encourage or force safer behaviours.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  7. mgj
    Member

    Check the dates on the document; Paddy Tompkins is no longer a police officer, and HMIC is not 'head of the Scottish police'. He is now a consultant, and indeed I was at a meeting with him this morning.

    There hasnt (to my knowledge) been a CC appointed yet for the new force, although Kevin Smith at Central seems to have taken on the role on an informal basis.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    Also -

    "

    Your question seems to suggest you misunderstand the nature of my change in role. I am not leaving Edinburgh but will continue to be based in the heart of the city despite now having a Scotland-wide role. My family and I will continue to live in the Borders.

    I have the greatest affection for London as one of the world’s great cities and many happy memories of my years as a police officer there but I have developed an even greater admiration for the environment and people of Edinburgh. It’s a city that defies superlatives and is, in its distinct way, every bit as much a world class city as London.
    "

    Maybe 'we' should 'engage'...

    Posted 13 years ago #
  9. recombodna
    Member

    cool!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  10. crowriver
    Member

    Check the dates on the document; Paddy Tompkins is no longer a police officer, and HMIC is not 'head of the Scottish police'. He is now a consultant, and indeed I was at a meeting with him this morning.

    2007! Doh! My fault, sorry. For some reason this link was near the top of EN headlines today. @chdot - any chance to edit the topic to 'Former police chief...' or something like that?

    Still, impressive parting shot!

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  11. Ah. Damn. So 5 years on from his five year tenure and...

    Posted 13 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    "For some reason this link was near the top of EN headlines today"

    Yeah I've been caught by that before.

    BUT, glad you noticed it. Don't remember it at the time and I think the words/ideas are even more relevant now.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  13. SRD
    Moderator

    It reveals how few people need to click on something to get it to top of 'most read'!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  14. crowriver
    Member

    Further snippets seem to indicate that the government listened to Mr Tomkins when he was in post. Maybe they still do?

    "Mr Tomkins courted controversy in the role by calling for Scotland's eight police forces to be amalgamated into one. He also criticised the Association of Chief Police Officers in Scotland (Acpos) for a lack of "accountability". The inspectorate operates independently of forces, police boards and the Government and is expected to improve services and highlight weaknesses. In recent years it has driven through changes to the way crime statistics are recorded, improvements in firearms and public order organisation and moves to tackle complex fraud on a national basis."

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/head-of-police-watchdog-hits-back-at-critics-of-appointment-1.913950

    Posted 13 years ago #
  15. mgj
    Member

    To know why he got to where he did, ask where he was on 12 October 1984

    Posted 13 years ago #
  16. crowriver
    Member

    Dunno. Guarding the recently bombed Thatchers at Sussex Police HQ?

    Posted 13 years ago #

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