@Smudge
That sounds correct.
The one mentioned above is on the Canal. I assume British Waterways ones are even less legally valid.
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Cyclists and Pedestrians (mild rant)
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Posted 14 years ago #
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@anth at work "Is a cyclist a risk to a pedestrian?" Yes but a very slight one. Although it is rare for pedestrians to be hit by cyclist, it does happen. When it does the cyclist should by liable, unless the cyclist can show negligence on the part of the pedestrian, i.e. they saw the cyclist coming and deliberately jumped in front of them.
"Stealing a mars bar poses no risk to anyone" little bit worried about that one coming from a lawyer. I am sure the guy who owns the shop I buy my paper from would see it just theft at a risk to his livelihood.
@Smudge, are you referring to a sign saying max speed 30mph? If yes, then that is advisory (see Know Your Traffic Signs page 137), Red rings or circles tell you what you must not do. Of course if you ignore the advice given and then have a crash you can be found negligent.
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Yup, that's the one. Most frustrating crawling round the bend at 25mph and causing tailbacks when it is only advisory but someone in front believes it is mandatory... hopefully when it is changed to two lanes that problem will disappear as safe overtaking should be possible. However I'm going off topic again for a cycle forum, sorry ;-)
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"I'm going off topic again for a cycle forum"
that's fine, you have a useful driver+cyclist perspective.
It's going off topic that's the problem...
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What is the point of an advisory sign? If the advice is that the limit should be 30mph or 20 mph then people will drive at that speed if compelled. (well most people). If it is only advisory then less people will drive at the speed the advice indicates?
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That's why we have lanes, I suppose. Those that feel compelled by speed limits stay to the left (except to allow merging traffic to join I think). Those that feel less compelled by speed limits (advisory or otherwise) stay on the outside and run their vehicle as fast as they feel is safe.
Got a lift with someone that set an audible warning when his car went above 80mph. I enquired and found that this is one way to avoid speed traps.... sorry off subject here...
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@Gembo "What is the point of an advisory sign?"
Particularly where there have been a run of accidents through excessive speed, an advisory could be used, set quite low, to provide a guide for drivers/riders unfamiliar with the route without restricting the ability of others to make good progress when conditions are suitable.
If set apparently artificailly low it allows for less both confident drivers and a range of vehicles. For example I could comfortably take a family car round there at 40mph without upsetting the passengers, 50 on my motorbike, 30 however is probably about right for an HGV tanker. So in the tanker, I'm happy, in the others I am safe but can speed up a little if I wish.Not saying that is the official reason, just my understanding of it.
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Must admit that it is this sort of thing that makes me realize that I live in a foreign country.
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Most driver regard speed limit signs as purely advisory...
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The only problem with the Mars bar analogy is that to be correct, we'd have to say that people stealing wide-screen plasma TVs are getting a verbal warning, while those stealing Mars bars are going to jail.
I'm sure it's possible to be worried about this without actually promoting mars bar theft.
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"The one mentioned above is on the Canal. I assume British Waterways ones are even less legally valid."
I've always thought the speed limits on the canal referred to the boats! Am I wrong?
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Yes the speed limits along the canal are for the boats see the BW Navigation Rules 4 (g) "Exceed the speed limit. Creating waves causes expensive damage to the Waterway."
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