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"Why don't you get off your power trip?" - the philosophy of Taxi 672

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  • Started 13 years ago by kaputnik
  • Latest reply from Numptie

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  1. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Interesting episode about 3PM today at our favourite Gilmour Place / King's Theatre junction.

    I was already a bit on edge after a black VW shot past me on Dundee street cycle lane and promptly pulled fast left onto the WAR with about an inch to spare, without indicating.

    Anyway, arrive towards junction with cars all over the road due to some cars waiting outside the shops and blocking the outside lane. I was filtering up as the lights changed and was parallel with a very slow moving car (forget what sort) as they went red, only car carried on and right up to front of the ASL box. As I passed I slowed and pointing to the ground said something along the lines of "excuse me, do you realise you're in an advanced stop lane and you can't enter the box on red. Where do you think I'm meant to go?". No swearies were used and I would say my tone was frustrated rather than confrontational. Driver wound down window and mumbled something, I replied that it was pretty obvious it was there, 2 big white lines with a bike painted in them.

    That would have been that I suppose, I squeezed myself infront of the car and out the way of traffic turning right out of Home Street. And then taxi (black cab 672) waiting to turn left (ALSO sitting blocking the ASL) who had his window down and had been observing events decided to wade in. What was my problem he enquired, why did I feel the need to "have a go". I asked him if he had ever cycled through the junction - he claimed he had (seriously doubt it) so I replied that obviously he would then know how dangerous it was and that right turning traffic clips the corner and that the ASL box is there for cyclist safety, not for drivers to get a wee jump on the lights. I think we would have been content to fume and scowl quietly at each other, only a number 10 bus appeared and tried to make the right turn. Only it couldn't because of the car in the ASL. So bus started beeping at car. I was well clear of the bus as I had gone over to front left of the guilty car. Taxi driver then started having a go at me claiming that it was now all my fault, look what I had done, thought I was so smart, blah, blah, blah...

    I pointed out that I was quite clearly blocking nothing and that it was the car behind. Car had to reverse back completely out of the ASL for the bus to complete its turn. Lights turned green for taxi but he carried on at me - car was allowed into the ASL, it had gone in on a green (it blatantly hadn't, I had only moved to filter past because lights were at red as we approached).

    Ultimately I was told I should "get off my power trip". I did my usual aggressive driver-response of repeating their taxi number (or numberplate) to them to let them know I had clocked it. Some sort of response from taxi was still forthcoming (he had a passenger in the back!) until the cars behind him got impatient with his particular brand of sermon delivery and started peeping at him to go. At which point the lights changed and I was off on my way, leaving all far behind, stuck in queues of other cars and taxis, going nowhere fast.

    So upshot was the apparent cyclist taxi driver decided that something that really had nothing whatsoever to do with him, or his driving, and that it was somehow unreasonable of me to as-politely-as-I-felt-possible point out the infraction of the other driver.

    Anyway, now that's off my chest I am feeling better and positive about POP tomorrow. After all, the combination of crummy infrastructure, poor driving standards, bad attitude to cyclists and lack of road enforcement leading to unsafe cycling is the whole reason we've had to resort to organising POP.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  2. spytfyre
    Member

    reading that has raised my heart rate - I trust you have reported him?

    Also as reminded below - the bus had to use the ASL?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  3. PS
    Member

    I'll be taking a positive line in future:
    "I'm just trying to help you save £60. You know that LBP are starting a crack down and will be issuing spot fines for cars in ASLs?"

    It's a little worrying that the bus has to swing through the ASL to turn the corner. What happens if it's full of cyclists? (The ASL, not the bus).

    Posted 13 years ago #
  4. Min
    Member

    What an unbelievable a**ehole. Sounds to me like the desperate last gasps of a dying breed and no-one will be sorry when they become extinct.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  5. amir
    Member

    We just have to accept that some folk (think that they) know best, despite lack of rational thought processes and considerayion of evidence.

    Taxi drivers do have a reputation to defend.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  6. ARobComp
    Member

    @Min I sometimes wonder whether there is just a "generation Z" that are the majority sharholders in this sort of asshattery on the roads... Seems to be - on the whole- older "professional" drivers who are stuck in their ways.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  7. Arellcat
    Moderator

    It's a little worrying that the bus has to swing through the ASL to turn the corner.

    If you're first in line to turn right out of Gilmore Place, it's usually prudent to stop as far back as possible in the ASL box, or even before it, because the turn is tricky enough even for LB's finest.

    What happens if it's full of cyclists?

    They just get run over. They tend to realise they're in the way and move left.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  8. RJ
    Member

    "Cycling" taxi driver? *racks brain* What did this one look like?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  9. Uberuce
    Member

    A taxi driver who has in his shed a luxury apartment complex for spiders in the shape of a bike, I shall wager.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  10. minus six
    Member

    Well I kid you not -- I was in a "fast black" between pubs one time and when I said I was a regular cyclist, the taxi driver switched off the meter and gave me the rest of the journey for free. So they are out there...

    Posted 13 years ago #
  11. gembo
    Member

    The polis are handing out fixed penalties of £60 now for what you are doing, is working for me. they lifted me the other night and gave me a warning and told me to pass on the news. Etc. My pointing out the infringement now taken as helpful.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  12. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Thinking back, it still would have happened if I hadn't been there. The bus still wouldn't have made the turn and the car still would have had to reverse back. And the taxi driver probably would have been reeling off his "bl**dy woman drivers" schpiel to his passenger.

    But there was a softer target to have a go at. I think I gave as good as I got without resorting to swears or raising my voice too much.

    As Arellcat says, the best way to handle that ASL is to sit further back and to the left of the right-turn lane, there's been too many occasions when I've seen a cyclist right forward and on the right have to move out of the way of a turning bus.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  13. Numptie
    Member

    Didn't you realize that the cyclist is always wrong! Cycling past Dobbies yesterday morning at around 06:00AM when the number 3 bus pulled up behind me and followed me until the bus got round the second bend and could see that there was no traffic coming in the opposite direction. I see this bus every morning and knew it was early so he was in no hurry to pass me. After the bus passed an HGV carrying wood came up behind me and leaned on his horn for several seconds presumably indicating that I had held the traffic up. He turned on to the city bypass but had a final rant and gestured out of the side window at me. I gave him the single finger salute to wave him on his way. When I got to Gilmerton high street the same bus was sitting stationary, obviously still ahead of schedule. Apart from that it was a lovely morning for cycling.

    Posted 13 years ago #

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