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"Growing Up in Scotland: Overweight, obesity and activity

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  1. chdot
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  2. fimm
    Member

    https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2020/11/20/making-social-determinants-of-health-the-focus-for-healthcare-improvement-efforts/

    We invest billions to develop new drugs for cardiovascular disease, type 2 diabetes, cancer, etc. but little to address the reasons they became common in the first place.

    We invest massively in developing and evaluating the effectiveness of bariatric surgery, but spend orders of magnitude less on public health and policy interventions to reduce obesity.

    An explosion of new inhalers for asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease have appeared over the past 20 years. Yet we have invested almost nothing in reducing air pollution or climate crisis induced wildfires, both of which produce detectable effects on rates of hospitalisation and even all cause mortality.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    Yet we have invested almost nothing in reducing air pollution or climate crisis induced wildfires, both of which produce detectable effects on rates of hospitalisation and even all cause mortality.

    Which of course is

    a) a problem

    b) entirely predictable as there are fewer vested interests and fewer opportunities to make money in preventative strategies.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    Talking of obesity, how are working from home people managing?

    Less food or more ‘leisure’ miles?

    Or just a metabolism that copes?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  5. amir
    Member

    My weight is increasing a little now that it's so dark. I think it's down to these reasons:

    1) my office is now next to the kitchen
    2) an Achilles niggle reduced my miles and hillage in the last month or so, but increasing now
    3) it's dark

    The weather has actually been manageable this autumn, with no ice so far.

    I am on to beat my mileage PB for the year. I have also slaughtered my climbing record already. All down to better quality "commutes" since lockdown. My bike speed improved markedly as well, perhaps due to a focus on shorter, and more intense rides. I have seen a lot of Gladhouse reservoir this year.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  6. Stickman
    Member

    Talking of obesity, how are working from home people managing?

    Personally, not that great. Hardly cycling, walking a lot less. Definitely on the way to gaining a CoronaStone.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  7. Frenchy
    Member

    Not having access to vending machines is definitely helpful.

    My weekly chocolate consumption is probably lower than my daily chocolate consumption used to be.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. crowriver
    Member

    WFH seems to take up a lot of time, not all of it productive. I'm eating fewer sweets, chocolate and crisps, having generally more balanced meals. However I'm hardly cycling at the moment, and not much walking either. I have lost over 5kg since I hit peak weight in May during the first lockdown, but only because I've been doing 5:2 intermittent fasting. Otherwise I'd be even more whale-like than currently.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  9. steveo
    Member

    Not great, comfort eating is up massively and no commute is piling on the weight. Not been for a run or a ride since my quarantine period and lacking any motivation for either.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. neddie
    Member

    While the kids were off school, I managed to keep up the exercise by doing daily Joe Wicks PE and extended "lunch time" bike rides with them (~1h15m)

    Now they're back at school, the exercise has fallen off a cliff to a once-a-week bike ride. Running and Joe Wicks PE also dried up, I'm afraid...

    Posted 3 years ago #
  11. gembo
    Member

    I go for lunchtime commute as definitely missing my 20 a day habit

    Also to escape the interminable teams meetings

    If lunch has not occurred until 4pm and is dark I go for a walk

    Posted 3 years ago #
  12. acsimpson
    Member

    My numbers are stark.

    Upto today this year I have only ridden 35 commutes while last year I had managed 146. That's 652km instead of 3074km.

    More surprisingly last year I taken 158 other rides while this year it's only 145. However they have a much higher average totalling 4269km instead of 1731km.

    So overall I have managed just over half the rides but they have been much longer.

    Although looking at the day totals I have ridden 20 fewer days this year.

    I have gained a few pounds which I put down to being less active during the working day. I'm now struggling to keep it up though as I don't have the commitment of a commute to force me onto the bike after work when it's dark. Instead I have planned a few weekly rides to keep increasing my veloviewer tiles.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  13. gembo
    Member

    I am eating a bag of minstrels

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. wishicouldgofaster
    Member

    3169 miles in 2019 - 1138 miles so far in 2020

    Posted 3 years ago #
  15. I've been forcing myself to go for a commute almost every day as it usually makes me feel much better and I don't want to lose too much fitness. It's definitely a big effort sometimes especially now with the short days and poor weather.

    Was also trying to get out for a run after work most days but niggly injuries have got in the way (Achilles, knee, hamstring and groin at various times).

    I'll probably end up with about 70% of last year's mileage which I'm relatively happy with (although bike fitness is noticeably down). However, running miles might end up 10x higher than last year and twice as many as ever before.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  16. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I will be rolled to the vaccination centre by a team of strong men using long wooden poles.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  17. fimm
    Member

    <Checks Strava>

    I've cycled 4912km in 2020, total distance for 2019 was 5926km. I've lost all my commutes, of course, but I've been alternating running and cycling each day. Mr fimm insists that we go outside every day, even if it is just for a walk.

    I've run 1652km in 2020, total distance for 2019 was 1315km.

    I've swum 37095m (or 37km) in 2020, total distance for 2019 was 172451m (172km). Since March I've swum twice in a hotel pool and once in the sea.

    I feel a little plumper, and my weight has gone up by a couple of kilos. My diet is different but I'm not sure if it is better - less cheap chocolate, more homemade biscuits...

    Posted 3 years ago #
  18. Greenroofer
    Member

    Spent a lot of time on the turbo trainer. With no work travel and no evening commitments away from home I've been able to work uninterrupted on a four month training plan. Great aerobic fitness, but losing a bit of top-end power (due to the nature of the plan). Longest ride since February is 40 miles. So far 3,500 miles this year (much of it stationary). Last year's total was 5,600...

    Weight down slightly on long-term average, due to eating a lot of salad that's easier at home than it is at work.

    So, in summary, I miss long rides outdoors but it could be worse.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  19. edinburgh87
    Member

    Had grand plans for my Audax SR this year but that didn't happen (although managed 21 points). Will be lucky to hit 10k kms by the end of the year..that said, following a fairly transitional year at work things are a bit more stable now so going to aim for some big miles in 2021...weight probably about the same as 2019.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  20. bill
    Member

    Partially out of my fear of ballooning up and partially out of the nature of my work, I haven't stopped commuting. We were given 'out of jail cards' (letters saying that we need to commute sometimes) that I carry with me. Perhaps about 50% of folks were doing a partial WFH but almost everyone has been back full-time since July I think.
    As a result I am over 17 000 km now which is already more than 2019's total 15 000km. This is my new PB.

    I noticed some new regular cycling commuters in the mornings.

    Mr Bill has been working from home since March. Similar to @fimm and Mr fimm he makes a point of going outside at least once a day, even if it's just a walk around the block before going to bed.

    Chapeau to all of you who manage to find motivation to exercise regularly.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  21. Arellcat
    Moderator

    I've only cycled 3,510km this year so far, which is my second-worst performance since detailed records began in 2010. I'm managing to go out most days (or evenings), but maybe only for 10-15km, with a few rides of 30km or so. I've also done about 35km of walking; I'm not much of a walker because of my toes.

    To put it another way, I rode 1,160km in the three months leading up to lockdown, but by then cycling was just pure transport; it wasn't 'having fun on bikes' in any sense, and I wasn't enjoying it. Somewhat selfishly, I was glad lockdown/imposed WFH happened because frankly I was knackered and I wasn't getting any fitter.

    And given the car crash of a year, I've not had a holiday, not even a week away anywhere, which means I've not done any touring. I've cycled more than 50 miles in a day precisely once in 2020. I don't have a turbo, and my computer couldn't run Zwift even if it tried. So I'm pootling around everywhere instead, which means I've greatly expanded my knowledge of Midlothian's back roads and woody trails, and I've enjoyed that very much.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  22. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I've greatly expanded my knowledge of Midlothian's back roads and woody trails

    IWARTS' seal of approval granted.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  23. amir
    Member

    The full lockdown was particularly good for exploring. I was able to go on roads that I wouldn't normally (eg A702 alongside the Pentlands), facilitating access to new corners for me. It was so much fun (and the weather was great) that I cycled 97 days in a row.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  24. edinburgh87
    Member

    @Amir you read my mind - I was moaning to myself this morning having been relegated back to the cycle paths alongside the A8 amid the constant steam of town bound traffic. Used to (and still do ‘out of hours’) be able to ride straight over the Gyle roundabouts and straight along the A8 before joining nicer roads at Kirkliston. Now largely back to the merry dance of an underpass, a footbridge and the airport roundabouts to go the same way.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  25. gembo
    Member

    These vehicles all have one occupant is that correct?

    Car-a-zee

    Posted 3 years ago #
  26. edinburgh87
    Member

    I’d probably bet on it yeah. I’m drifting the thread somewhat but I suspect the discouragement of public transport is playing a part.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  27. LaidBack
    Member

    @edinburgh87 - the discouragement of public transport is playing a part

    We all know of people that would never use PT at the best of times.'Too expensive, too slow, too dirty etc'.

    Now they are doing 'their bit' by doing what they always did and drive everywhere to leave the buses and trains empty as requested. Some people will drive more to a suitable outdoor exercise point. (Like Holyrood Park).
    Or they drive to have a walk round IKEA.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  28. paddyirish
    Member

    2099km so far, last year was the previous worst at 6948 to the same date. Elevation is worse 21500m down from 76700m

    I had 10 weeks off the bike due to getting hit in February, but dropping from 150km a week commuting to 0 has been a massive hit, physically and mentally - commute time has been replaced by overtime and weight has climbed accordingly.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  29. crowriver
    Member

    "We all know of people that would never use PT at the best of times.'Too expensive, too slow, too dirty etc'."

    The majority of car owners, basically.

    A small minority would take the train or bus to work, largely due to problems with parking (lack of spaces or "too expensive"), and some (mostly over 60s and retired people) would take the bus for leisure as free at the point of use.

    The former are now either working from home or driving in. The latter are now almost exclusively driving for leisure due to being in the age group most likely to die from Covid.....let's just hope they wear masks/social distance once they reach their destinations.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    Not Scotland obviously, but really quite sad.

    It’s one country that could make its population change, whether it does remains to be seen.

    Unhealthy diets, lack of exercise leave over half of Chinese adults overweight: report

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1210773.shtml

    Posted 3 years ago #

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