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"Growing Up in Scotland: Overweight, obesity and activity

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  1. chdot
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  2. chdot
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    All food is processed to some degree, and processing can be necessary and beneficial. But UPF is different. It is often high in fat, salt and sugar (HFSS) but also engineered and marketed in ways that cause excess consumption, fuelling the obesity crisis, which costs the NHS more than £11bn a year.

    Last month a study found that consuming large amounts of UPF increases the risk of an early death. It is so damaging to health that it is implicated in as many as one in seven of all premature deaths, including at least 17,000 every year in England.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/ng-interactive/2025/may/17/uk-government-drops-healthy-eating-push-after-lobbying-by-ultra-processed-food-firms

    Posted 5 months ago #
  3. chdot
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    In an interview with the Guardian, William Roberts, the chief executive of the RSPH, said the causes of the crisis were “wide-ranging” but junk food and low levels of activity were “major factors”.

    “Obesity in childhood leads to several complex health problems that can last a lifetime,” he said. “These include diabetes, high blood pressure, certain types of cancer and poor mental health. Making it easier for children to move around and eat healthily is a key part of preventing this.”

    Roberts, who previously held senior roles in the NHS, said: “As a nation we’re failing the test on childhood obesity. Our projections show that we are heading in the wrong direction on obesity, with children in some of the most deprived areas set to be worst affected.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jun/23/majority-children-overweight-obese-nine-areas-england-by-2035-study

    Apparently this is an answer -

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jun/23/nhs-begins-mass-rollout-of-weight-loss-jabs-to-patients-in-england

    Posted 3 months ago #
  4. chdot
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    Myth 1: Exercising enormous amounts is key to weight loss
    “Recently, I was talking to a friend who had put on weight and she was saying that she just doesn’t have time to go to the gym,” Belluz says. “I was thinking, it’s not the exercise that is the problem – it is the overconsumption of food.”

    Despite exercise being brilliant for our health – for building and maintaining muscle mass, protecting our heart from disease and even reducing our cancer risk – research shows that its role in weight loss is minimal.

    (Allegedly)

    https://archive.ph/2025.09.21-203212/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/diet/weight-loss/exercise-not-the-key-to-weight-loss-this-is-what-works/

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  5. neddie
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    Old runner's adage:

    "You can't outrun a bad diet"

    The problem I find with exercise is it makes you hungry. Very hungry. After doing say a 3-day cycle tour, consuming maybe 5000 calories a day with regular additional snacking, it's then very hard to "come back down" to a regular diet again. Weight inevitably goes up.

    I think the key is to be consistent with exercise and diet - little and often for exercise, 3 square meals a day and no snacking for diet.

    If only there was a way to build daily exercise into your everyday routine using time "wasted" getting to work ... <thinking emoji>

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  6. Baldcyclist
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    People probably consume more colories on the coffee stop, than they exert on the ride. It wasnt until I had access to a power meter on my indoor bike that I realised how few calories I actually burned cycling for an hour - and calculated how many hours cycling would be required above normal daily calorie intake to lose 1kg of fat.

    Most of the 'sports' coaches say you need to do at leats 6 hours a week on bike to notice any real fitness benefit. Most of that in zone 2, with a short amount of high intensity. Low intensity better at burning fat, high intensity just burns sugar you need to replace or you bonk.

    Most 'experts' seem to suggest short weight training sessions are far better for you than hours of cardio (at least in terms of time/benefit). Cycling for example does nothging for bone density, you need the impact of walking or running. Cycling aslo does little for upper body muscle mass, and so it needs to be supplimented with weight training).

    I confess I struggle with weight training, or pressups and other own weight exercises or the like. I'd still rather be on the bike, or walking up a hill for 5 hours. (anecdotally Strava tells me I am fitter and have a higher VO2 max walking up a hill one day a week, over cycle commuting 4 hours a week).

    I struggle with weight and my 4 or 5 hours a week cycling, or hill walking has done nothing for my weight, and I'm still over 100kg, it took me 6000 miles a year to lose weight only cycling with no diet change.

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  7. Yodhrin
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    I dunno if you'll find any use in it Baldcyclist, but I've been finding myself much more motivated to do the weights/calisthenics stuff when I started doing, I don't know if this is the proper term but "negative failure" instead of reps. So instead of saying "I have to do X number of pushups", you put yourself in the Up position and then just hold it as long as you can, and then when you start to fail try to resist the downward movement as much as you can. Same type of thing with pull ups or sit ups. When it gets too easy you adopt a different posture that increases the difficulty of the exercise. Ostensibly it's more efficient to train completely on negative movement, but for me I think it's more psychological: you can't really fail when the "failure" is inevitable and you're just resisting it, as opposed to aiming for a specific goal number and then not quite meeting it, so you never feel discouraged.

    Also, frankly, as someone who doesn't enjoy exercise the way fitness nuts keep assuring me I should/will, it's a less hassled way of doing it.

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  8. chdot
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    “as someone who doesn't enjoy exercise the way fitness nuts keep assuring me I should/will, it's a less hassled way of doing it“

    I’m lucky.

    I’ve never felt the need to diet or exercise.

    I cycle and walk up and down stairs. That’s about it.

    I (mostly) cycle to get to places.

    I’m fitter than most people my age (probably) and am probably less overweight than many people half my age.

    Genetics is bound to be involved. Food is ‘normal’ - well perhaps not so normal these days. Mostly self cooked plus a weekly fish supper.

    I make bread - easier and less time consuming than some people imagine.

    And I drink a bottle of wine a week and a bar of what Cadbury’s claims is chocolate.

    I’m aware my muscles are more in my legs than my arms.

    ‘Upper body fitness’ is a mystery to me. (Some) people keep saying I ‘should do something about it’. One of them has a gym membership and never goes…

    I had enough ‘gym’ at school.

    Yes I’m lucky I just like bikes. Spend more time playing with them than riding, maybe that should change.

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  9. Frenchy
    Member

    Spend more time playing with them than riding

    Sounds like upper body exercise to me.

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  10. Yodhrin
    Member

    @chdot Sound like you have the right combo of genetic luck and general discipline to live well. Sadly I'm a gluttonous b who's never seen a plate of food they didn't like and the shape I'm "in" when I bother is "middle aged ex-rugby forward" and has been since I was a teen lol.

    Riding a bike(slowly, in a non-sporty way) is the only vaguely exercise-shaped activity I've ever actually genuinely enjoyed but it's not enough on its own sadly. That said the "training regime" I'm on now with this negative failure lark is literally 40 minutes a week and while I suspect any aesthetic benefits are months away yet it's certainly making me *feel* a lot better.

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  11. chdot
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    “Sounds like upper body exercise to me.“

    I’ll take that!

    Especially the use of a bench vice (I think they have similar things in gyms…) for removing fixed cups and freewheels etc.

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  12. chdot
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    “it's certainly making me *feel* a lot better”

    That’s important.

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  13. gembo
    Member

    You walk and cycle up and down stairs. Crazy Man

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    Don’t you?

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  15. Baldcyclist
    Member

    I enjoy pizza too much. I can eat well all week, get to weekend, eat pizza, put on 1kg. Take all of next week to rid 1kg, and again. Same with a chippy, or Chinese or Mcdees if we have that as our weekend treat.

    I was doing press ups on the stairs, I can't do a proper one. Got from 3rd step down to 1st, and the Doc told me I might have a heart condition, so I needed to stop that (told could still cycle). Thankfully nothing wrong with heart, apparently it's just my diaphragm doesn't work and that's why I can't breathe properly on exertion, now doing physio to learn to breathe again.
    Not started press ups again yet as I still get the phantom chest pain (that only tarted when doc told me my heart was burst, and hasn't quite gone away yet). I used to just do them when I went down stairs when wah. 20 at a time, to 100 in a day. Need to start that again. I have all the bands and kettle bells and hate doing a 20 mins strength session, but I now also have tennis elbow so probably need to strengthen my arms.

    I've got some of the 50s diseases (high blood pressure, diabetes which has gone away since cycling again), basically need to lose weight or 60s and 70s will be bad. Dr seems to be my favourite place just now (at the moment because of leg injury falling from bike that's not healing).

    Hate weights, but old dad with a 10 year old so have to. If I'm honest the commute home is killing me as well but must be done.

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  16. gembo
    Member

    @chdot, well when you put it. Like that, Yes

    Posted 3 weeks ago #
  17. chdot
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    And this week’s exercise includes ladder transportation and pointing

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  18. gembo
    Member

    Mrs Garto did some pointing in the sitooterie at beginning of. Summer. Seems to have kept out the spiders. Maybe she can do more to keep. Out the fieldmice come winter. Though I suspect they come in from next door. That ladder could do with a wee stabilizer wheel

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  19. neddie
    Member

    Is that cement or lime mortar?

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  20. chdot
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    Def lime!

    Had to take some cement out (damage to stone visible in places)

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  21. Baldcyclist
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    Must be that time of year. No bike at work this week as I need to get the train home so I can decorate, caulking and Pollyfilla tonight. Up and down ladders should help with bone density...

    Posted 2 weeks ago #
  22. chdot
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    Britain loves bicycles, at least in theory. Last month, BBC Radio 4 listeners voted the pushbike the most useful technological advance of the last 200 years. So why aren't we all on our bikes? Grimshaw spreads a scatter gun of invective. "Highway engineers are responsible for the nation's obesity. They're obsessed with roads that just encourage a sedentary lifestyle."

    And where councils do make cyclepaths, Grimshaw, a civil engineer by training, says they leave it to the most junior of engineers. "Why is the green tarmac on cycle paths so uneven? Because they lay it cold and it gets air bubbles trapped underneath." A particular hate is "cyclists dismount" signs. "Councils have these just to cover themselves from getting sued."

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2005/jun/08/environment.environment

    Posted 4 days ago #

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