It's interesting that the article says no bananas rather than no fruit. Do bananas have more or quicker absorbed sugar?
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"Growing Up in Scotland: Overweight, obesity and activity
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I've read that about bananas too I know that the riper they are, the quicker you absorb the sugar. Think they are higher in calories than other fruit.
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I suspect that's also what makes them such a good jersey pocket snack.
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Well I daresay Scotland's diet won't be helped by lack of concerted action by the Scottish Government:
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Celebrating Scotland’s Food and Drink
This week there will be a debate in Holyrood ‘Celebrating Scotland’s Food and Drink Success Story’. In darkly comic timing the Scottish Government have just dropped their long-standing commitment to a ‘Good Food Nation Bill’ and disbanded their own Food Commission.
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Continues at: https://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2018/09/12/celebrating-scotlands-food-and-drink/
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We should look for dietary advice from people who have maintained a healthy weight all their lives.
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Ah, but what if their diet is crap, they don't do much exercise but they are very slim? Such people do exist. They might not be healthy, but their metabolism keeps them slim. Their advice might be "Eat whatever you like, it makes no difference."
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Yes but define healthy diet. Is there any agreement? Fat is bad, then it's good. Carbs are good then they're bad. As long as we keep looking for advice from people at the extremes we're going to get nonsense like avoid eating bananas.
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We should look for dietary advice from people who have maintained a healthy weight all their lives.
That's me. But I wouldn't know what to say. If anything it's maybe that I have never snacked or grazed or taken away much. I largely cook and eat meals. I guess not everyone can do that.
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I think there's a fair consensus, and has been for 40+ uears that the Mediterranean diet is healthy, and that you should be getting plenty of fruit and veg, especially the latter. All the rest is just overexcitable headlines
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@Cyclingmollie, if you mean let's not listen to Tom Watson's advice then I agree. He's an extreme case. However for people who are grossly overweight - as he was until recently - his advice to cut out sugar and dense carbs is pretty sound.
I recently subjected myself to BBC2's series (forget the title) about your birth age versus your body age. There was an NHS worker who was thin as a rake, outwardly looked fit, plenty of exercise. However his diet was incredibly high in cholesterol (lots of big fry ups, etc.) and he was warned he was at risk of artery wall thickening and potentially heart disease. Another person looked slim, but in fact she was so sedentary that her muscles had wasted away and had been replaced by fat, making her incredibly weak and frail. These were folk in their late forties/early fifties...
Despite the nostalgic spectacle of seeing Angela Rippon still alive and kicking, what I got from the programme is the obvious message of health being about more than just how you look.
@Sallyhinch, "you should be getting plenty of fruit and veg". Yep, that's about the size of it. More veg than fruit I reckon.
On Newsnight last night - as well as a bit on V&A Dundee they had a feature discussing the fact that UK is now the third most obese/overweight country in Europe. Only Malta and Turkey are worse. Not sure how Mediterranean diet fits in to that picture (obviously not much of a factor in UK).
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To me, this guy looks like he's in his 50s or 60s. Ask him what he eats.
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“I think there's a fair consensus, and has been for 40+ uears that the Mediterranean diet is healthy, and that you should be getting plenty of fruit and veg, especially the latter. All the rest is just overexcitable headlines”
Yes, no.
Not sure there is an absolute definition of “Mediterranean diet” - or that all people living where fruit, veg and olives grow easily are all slim.
Generally yes eat fruit and veg, preferably as fresh as poss, but frozen likely to be better than ‘tired’.
Self-cook better than processed, but there are degrees of processed.
I will arbitrarily say ‘there’s a difference between made and manufactured’ - eg between cheese and mechanically-recovered ‘meat’ pies.
Also (mentioned previously) the manufacturing/marketing sleight of hand where ‘low fat’ means more sugar.
One thing ‘emerging’ recently is the idea that a (wide) variety of foods is a good idea.
But the basics remain - don’t eat too much, snacking is probably bad (mix of more food, not so good food and - maybe - body not designed for constant digesting).
There is now more mention of ‘alcohol is bad for you’ going beyond ‘alcohol is bad for you’ to add ‘and it’s where some people get a LOT of calories from’.
Then there’s exercise.
In the ‘past’ people were mostly less heavy (and smaller) due to nutritional reasons and fewer cars and more work involving manual effort.
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More "Daily Mile" nonsense from Fife Council
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Wonder if any serious scholars have compared this -
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-edition-of-manual-of-nutrition-published
with the first edition published at the end of WW2.
(And editions in between.)
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FOOD INSIDER (@InsiderFood)
13/09/2018, 11:13 am“This burger is so obscene, people are calling for Jamie Oliver to fix America” by @InsiderFood
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https://twitter.com/insiderfood/status/1040181565316313088?s=21
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Did Jamie Olivier really fix the school meals here? Or did they just soon revert back to the usual cheap tat, because anything else was "a bit difficult"?
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Taco Bell has no plans for an Edinburgh restaurant
As if we need another type of fast food.
Saw the other day that we are the third fattest nation in Europe Telegraph story
Story also has detail on Tom Watson losing 7 stone after being told he was diabetic. Pretty impressive.Posted 6 years ago # -
This is a worrying development. Coming soon to a creepingly privatised NHS:
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-45590293
One of the largest life insurance providers in North America will no longer offer policies that do not include digital fitness tracking.
John Hancock will now sell only "interactive" policies that collect health data through wearable devices such as a smartwatch.
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Very Brave New World. Compulsory fitbits for all?
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easily fixed.
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May or may not be related -
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However, in Scotland and Wales, life expectancy has fallen by around six weeks.
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England, but unlikely to be much different here.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/oct/11/record-number-of-10-and-11-year-olds-severely-obese
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Cutting the speed limit to 20mph in all urban areas could help counter Scotland’s obesity epidemic, a leading child health expert has said.
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The new WHO advice focuses on passive viewing - youngsters being placed in front of a TV or computer screen or handed a tablet or mobile phone for entertainment - and is aimed at tackling child inactivity, a leading risk factor for global mortality and obesity-related ill health.
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Obese people who switch their car for a more active commute could cut their chances of an early death, new research suggests.
Adults with a body mass index (BMI) above 30, who walk and cycle to work, have a similar risk of dying to people who are a healthy weight and do the same, according to a study presented at the European Congress on Obesity in Glasgow.
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Media could have done a nice link to this year's PoP events dedicated to making cycling safer and more accessible.
Related: We stopped off at Lucas for an ice cream on way back from our first tandem trip of 2019. Musselburgh jammed with cars. People parked up eating fast food. This is the modern way.Posted 5 years ago # -
“This is the modern way.”
Pretty much.
But there’s a bit more concern.
SG has revamped its walking strategy.
I seem to remember that the initial version was surrounded by a lot of naivety and unwarranted optimism and unaddressed resource implications.
Refs to active travel increased from 6 to 33 in latest version!
https://www.pathsforall.org.uk/mediaLibrary/other/english/81342.pdf
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