Counterpoint- a decent-sized chunk of the population are selfish and entitled (though my bar for this is probably lower than yours by the sounds of it!). However motor vehicles a) reinforce selfish behaviour via 'might is right' while b) enforce conformity from the majority by virtue of the physics involved (speeds, weights etc). And of course the most obvious selfish behaviours of motorists i.e. speeding and mobile phone use are endemic due to lack of enforcement and repercussions.
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Today's rubbish cycling
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Posted 1 year ago #
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I think it's possible to recognise that two types of behaviour are both inconsiderate while also recognising that one is far more dangerous than the other. On balance, I'd rather have an illegal ebike whizz past me walking on the pavement than a van doing the same speed, because I'd rather be hit by a bike than a van, but of course I'd ideally not have to make the choice!
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Not actually sure if this seizure was for rubbish cycling, or whether this type of bike is actually banned? I saw them being used in Shoreditch recently.
https://twitter.com/PSOSNEEdinburgh/status/1769021037616800253/photo/1
Officers from the Leith Community Policing Team stopped and seized a beer bike on Leith Walk, around 11.20am on Saturday, 16 March, 2024, following safety concerns and road traffic offences. We are aware of ongoing community concerns and further enquiries are ongoing.
#NECPT
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I had a head-on collision with another person on a bike on the canal towpath on Thursday morning last week at the double-bridge between Hailes Quarry Park and Wester Hailes. I had just rung my bell to indicate that I was about to go under the bridge as they emerged silently directly in my path. We both braked, but still crashed into one another, fortunately staying upright with bikes apparently undamaged. I have subsequently noticed that my front wheel isn't rotating smoothly, which appears to be down to minor distortion in my front disc so I guess I will need to replace it unless it can be safely undistorted by those with actual skills.
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Someone on a bike loudly berating another person on a bike who was pulling a trailer (with a young child in it) on the canal towpath at Meggetland this morning for apparently taking up too much space... They suggested that the person with the trailer should find an alternative route. Unfortunately I wasn't quick enough to suggest that it should be they that find another route if unwilling to share with others, although I did apologise to the person with the trailer on behalf of the cycling community as I overtook them with more than enough space shortly aftwards.
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Glad collision was bumper to bumper
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Strangely enough, I commented on my Strava record of today's commute along the towpath "A lot of MAMILs on the towpath this morning, who were going a bit too fast and a bit too aggressively for the conditions..."
While there were lots of sensible people (of all types) there was definitely a bit of an undercurrent of men on drop-barred bikes in too much of a hurry, and let's just say they aren't people who you see there in the winter...
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A few weeks ago I was heading west from Harrison Park with the kids on their own bike when we were verbally attacked by a cycling Karen who machinegunned her bell then insisted they should be kept under closer control and out of her way. It was a bit tempting to just ride her off the verge, but I had to settle for laughing at her. Very annoying trying to explain this stuff to young kids.
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Had a run in about a week ago that annoyed me enough to upload to Youtube but I quickly forgot about it. Until last night when a driving instructor contacted me saying that another instructor had just been involved in a collision with the exact same car at the exact same junction. I am of course more than happy to co-operate with any enquiries (and it turns out my incident is still within the 14-day window) and with any luck the driver will end up with an insurance price hike due to an at-fault claim and some points on their licence.
The video in question is https://youtu.be/dbZnSVgPtWM?si=m-9LpFK6fdx5kOhR (apologies for the noisy brakes and any industrial language)
Posted 11 months ago # -
I don't want to be 'that person', but @mcairney, I think you should aim to ride a lot further out than you do, door zone plus a bit more, opposite carriageway if necessary.
That driver though will run out of luck sooner or later.
Posted 11 months ago # -
The junction could do with being significantly narrowed, as well.
Posted 11 months ago # -
Shocking driving - driver needs to slow right down and make sure it is safe before proceeding. Plus his manoeuvre is a bit poor too in that he should be straight out not driving on the wrong side of the road.
Posted 11 months ago # -
Harbour Road is one-way northbound, so there isn't a wrong side of the road, but the driver's lack of braking on approaching the give way line is quite apparent. I suspect it's because the sightline to the right is quite good, parked vehicles notwithstanding, and lack of negative reinforcement on behaviour encourages recklessness.
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Harbour Road is one-way northbound
for cars - there is a bike contraflow marked. I agree with the other comments (but why are we in the "rubbish cycling" thread?).Posted 11 months ago # -
Is the white Audi parked within 10 metres of the junction?
Seems that rule is widely forgotten as well
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I meant to post this in the rubbish driving thread- obviously picked the wrong one. Re @arellcat I’m in a strong secondary position and given there was no pinch points or vehicles behind me I don’t see any reason to be in primary at that point. You could argue that the only reason I avoided a collision is because I was able to see over the parked cars and had anticipated the car pulling up to the junction not stopping. The driving instructor wasn’t so fortunate. Also the camera is mounted under my cycling computer under the stem so not sure if that effects perspective
Posted 11 months ago # -
I should probably say that if I’m coming across as defensive you’re not the first person to point this out - I had a close pads a few years ago on Portobello High St where realistically there shouldn’t have been any space to pass but I was on a TT bike and not full primary
Posted 11 months ago # -
That part of New Street/Fisherrow can appear quite hazardous with two junctions and the harbour car park in close proximity. The layout of the car park is such that parked cars can exit from their locations straight out onto to the road.
Posted 11 months ago # -
Yep New Street is a bit of a meat grinder, the one positive is that it's marginally better than North High Street!
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And a bit of a more light-hearted one:
https://youtu.be/HukhkDAxsKANot sure if I'm the rubbish cyclist or not in this scenario
Posted 9 months ago # -
My other preoccupation lead me to this.
Note: rule2 is violated in subtitles. Video is otherwise safe.
The objective of the cycling is rubbish for sure! Remarkably the Russian BMP driver appears to be more patient than many Edinburgh drivers...
https://bsky.app/profile/wartranslated.bsky.social/post/3lcffrasbws2w
Posted 6 months ago # -
My cycling today wasnt rubbish as such. I took the curly snake down to Ancient Robot Games. It is bi-directional until North of Elm Row then maybe you are meant to cross to the West Side. I didn’t cross but didnt seem to make much odds. Similarly on way back up plenty deliveroo on the way down. Luckily American Robot Games had the items I was despatched for, This made me so happy i decided to take the Cowgate home. Car tries to right hook me but i slowed to a stop. On resumption a cat is skateboarding down my side of the road
Posted 6 months ago # -
Not sure it really passes the threshold for 'rubbish cycling' but putting it out there anyway. I was cycling up Queens Drive approaching the hairpin about halfway up having just passed a jogger myself when a cyclist came flying round the blind bend towards me going the 'wrong way'. A second either way and it could have been a nasty collision either with me or the jogger and from the brief view of their bike (old-ish hybrid, rim brakes) I wouldn't have really fancied their chances of braking sufficiently to avoid a collision.
Am I being overly-precious in my assertion that they're going the 'wrong way' on a marked one-way road when the road is closed to motor traffic?
Posted 1 week ago # -
I managed to run a red light today somehow. Was day dreaming at junction between Clifton terrace and Athol place, saw the green out corner of my eye and went.
Realised half way acrros junction I had spied the filter to Torphichen street, and not Athol place which was still at red.
Posted 1 week ago # -
I don't like that junction when I'm riding with the lights, not one I'd like to ride against the lights.
(I have also done this, btw, just not that junction!).
Posted 1 week ago # -
“Am I being overly-precious in my assertion that they're going the 'wrong way' on a marked one-way road when the road is closed to motor traffic?”
Essentially you’re not.
Assuming it’s legally one way (it’s HP, so room for some doubt) It’s unlikely that ‘being closed’ removes the onewayness.
However even if person on bike wasn’t technically going ‘the wrong way’, sounds like they were riding without care or attention which in some circumstances could be subject to sanctions.
In any case they were clearly acting stupidly!
Posted 1 week ago # -
To lend some credence to the one-way theory; short version, I've been stopped with two kids in the bakfiets heading up the other way from the roundabout, up the southernmost aspect of Queens drive. While I had reasons™, the rangers stopped me and essentially said it was dangerous and not to on account of folks coming flying down the hill. The same, one would expect is true in reverse, and that it's park policy.
Longer version; we headed up the correct way as @mcairney was, to park at Dunsapie loch and climb the summit. When we got there we found a lass and her two friends on speakerphone with the ambulance service. She'd been doing a Geography society running relay to the summit and back, and just as she'd gotten back down to the relatively gentle slopes near Dunsapie had had a tumble and badly sprained an ankle.
The ambulance folk were saying the road's closed, we can't come get you for a sprain. The ice cream van man was saying, if I take you down the hill I lose my pitch and my income for the day as I can't get back up. And I said - hey look at this weird bike you'd fit in.
We needed to collapse the raincover and after a bit of faff, delivered her (going the right way) down to the roundabout for her to get a cab home and get some ice on. Cargo biking ambulance style!
My phone dinged to say my house keys (airtag) were at Dunsapie loch. Remember the 'faff'? I had dropped them in the middle of the road. By this point my mini paramedics had had enough, so I figured take the shorter way up, watch the corners / sight lines, likely hunky dory. Rangers were polite and very chill, and I said I'd switch to the pavement for the remainder of the climb. We recovered the keys, then handed in to the ice cream van man, and had a 99 flake to redeem the juniors dispositions.
I am yet to buy some blue lights, but that's the long version of how I found out it was a one way circuit!
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