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Today's rubbish cycling

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  1. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    @ih

    see 'twist-and-go' e-bikes in link

    http://www.bikehub.co.uk/featured-articles/electric-bikes-whats-all-the-buzz-about/

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. ih
    Member

    @Murun Thanks, I'm less ignorant now. Sounds like the 'twist and go' type don't really comply with EU standards. Opportunities for the Brexiteers to complain Europe is interfering with our electric bikes!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    well, this site suggests that type of bike will be allowed under the 'new' (current) regs provided it cuts out at 25kph. Which seems to be easy to get around...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. Rob
    Member

    Admittedly, my position was just as ignorant. I thought e-bikes just helped you pedal up hills.

    This type sounds more like riding a moped on a bike path.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. davidsonsdave
    Member

    The ebiker on the NEPN appears to be using a pedal assist bike but he flew past me and I was going at 15mph, so it would seem the cut-off been disabled.

    I have used a pedal assist ebike myself. Although you do have to turn the pedals, you aren't doing any work until you get up to above 15mph when the motor cuts out. It's fun for a while but not satisfying. Useful if you want to turn up at a meeting without being all sweaty and useful if you have mild mobility issues.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. kaputnik
    Moderator

    @davidsondave what colour is the E-bike?

    I noticed some dreadful e-biking at South Gyle during the week, it was a blue/black MTB type frame with front suspension fork.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. davidsonsdave
    Member

    @kaputnik completely missed this on both occasions despite getting a good view of him as he joined Russell Rd. I'm sure I will see them again...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. Rosie
    Member

    Fountainbridge, appalling surface, head wind, as far to the left as possible. Cyclist approaching me on same side of road, in the foot space or so to my left. Startling.. & terrible PR.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. jonty
    Member

    I walked past a studenty looking cycling the wrong way down South Bridge a week or two ago. I assumed he'd just nipped across to stop somwhere, but happily continued down, around some roadworks (with high fences and limited visibility) and into traffic, getting tooted at at least once. He was in a cycle lane - was your person in one too?

    I think the propensity of some to cycle the wrong way in cycle lanes was discussed a few months ago. My theory is now that the confusing British cocktail of two-way lanes, contraflow lanes and roadside lanes sometimes leads the uninitiated to believe that every bike lane anywhere is basically a separate bit of two-way road. The fact that there is a greenway (ie. not a cycle lane) on the other side of the road maybe backs this up - obviously all bikes go in the bike lane!

    Maybe the University needs to (or already does?) issue a leaflet to freshers explaining the basics of safe road cycling. If nothing else it might educate a whole generation of current and future Edinburgh car drivers about what that cyclist in front of them is up to.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. neddie
    Member

    The cyclist who came flying* through Haymarket, from Morrison St bawling HEYYYYYYYYYY! at a load of pedestrians still crossing / crossing on the red man.

    * 25mph+

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. Rosie
    Member

    @ jonty - there is no cycle lane on Fountainbridge. It's dodge valley, as the surface is so bad that you zig-zag along it.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. jonty
    Member

    Well that's my theory ruined then! Any indication why they were there?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. Rosie
    Member

    @ jonty - drugs or insanity or both

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. algo
    Member

    On Sunday morning around 11ish I took fairly polite objection to a middle aged man cycling towards us (two adults two children) fairly quickly on the pavement of Thirslestane Road. I placed myself first in such a way that it was clear he should dismount. When challenged he said it was OK because he was carrying keys so you could hear him coming from the jangle. My kids leave our close not far away on foot past a blind hedge - there are plenty of these also on Thirslestane Road. He took great objection to our explanations about these hidden paths and small children. Astonishingly he defended his actions again and said he had kids of his own. The mountain bike he was riding seemed very much suited to the setts on the road. Objectionable idiot in my opinion, but I'm fairly sure that's what he's saying about me.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. mgj
    Member

    @algo, it's fairly constant on the street and you cannot reason with them. Far too many of them; the only upside is that as your kids grow up you care slightly less about it. They (ignorant pavement cyclists) still often get asked if mummy wont let them ride on the road yet.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. PS
    Member

    It may just be down to my love of Paris-Roubaix and the Tour of Flanders, but I really can't be doing with people who cycle on the pavement to avoid cycling on cobbles/setts.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. SRD
    Moderator

    the crazy thing is, those thirlestane setts are some of the best laid in town.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. mgj
    Member

    @SRD, really? That may be more of a comment on the others, but there are huge gaps between many of them, and they were (partially) badly relaid at great expense 10 years ago.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    "those thirlestane setts are some of the best laid"

    Think one section is (where a past Lord Provost lived) but not the whole street.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. jdanielp
    Member

    The Team Sky attired racing cyclist who overtook me this morning approaching Meggetland as I was slowing behind a pedestrian (who was walking away from me) in order to let another cyclist coming in the other direction to pass by. I asked "really?" as he steamed past before slotting into the ever decreasing space between me and the pedestrian. I think that he had at least attempted to ring a somewhat ineffectual bell before passing me though. This happened shortly after spotting gembo, who I also saw last night.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. newtoit
    Member

    Guy this morning on Clerk St, riding a fixie and wearing a black hat, who went straight through the red lights at Crosscauseway, whilst some peds were mid crossing, without even slowing down.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. algo
    Member

    I'm going to sound like a broken record - but another adult on a bike on the pavement on Marchmont Road refusing to understand how this might be dangerous for small children (or anyone for that matter). "I'm not going to run your children over" is not a valid defence.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. PS
    Member

    Am I missing something? Marchmont Road is not a bad road to cycle on, is it?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. algo
    Member

    I find it equally baffling - and increasingly enraging. I grant you that the bike lanes on Marchmont Road encourage cycling in the door zone, but I doubt that's got anything to do with it.....

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. jonty
    Member

    Is there a "meadows effect" where the presence of useful, off-road infrastructure means that there's a group of people who can regularly use a bike to get around despite not being confident on roads (and so use the pavements in the vicinity where such infrastructure isn't available?)

    I can think of a way of solving that...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. mgj
    Member

    The group is just a bunch of selfish and entitled morons. Cycling provision or not makes no difference. (If they were avoiding cobbles for example, they'd turn down Spottiswoode St but they don't)

    And actually, I've never had a door opened on me in all the years of cycling on Marchmont Road. Plenty of double parked cars and taxis getting in the way.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. PS
    Member

    I can think of a way of solving that...

    Yep. Nice and wide is Marchmont Road. Swap the position of the "optional" bike lane with the parking and job pretty much done.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. algo
    Member

    @PS - indeed - when I went to the consultation on the Marchmont - King's Buildings consultation I mentioned this, but I think it fell on deaf ears. @mgj I am clutching at straws for a reason why they are on the pavement of course. I've never had a problem with dooring there, but I cycle away from the door zone, as I suspect you do.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. Rosie
    Member

    Cruising back along the NEPN. A couple of young blokes going full tilt abreast. Played chicken with me so I stopped. I shouted and swore as the little ******** swerved and laughed.

    I had a length of dowling n my pannier and if I'd been quicker should have pulled it out and put it between their spokes.

    Meditated doing that as I cycled on.

    Got to the slalom and someone with a scooter with L plates was trying to ride it up. Scooter stalled and so he had to get off and start pushing. Laughed as loudly and derisively as I could.

    It's a jungle out there, guys.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. wingpig
    Member

    Two polices on the NEPN at the bit where the new path with the railing leads to Drylaw. Their car was in the park. Presumably linked to the helicopper chuntering around to the west and the sounds of sirens along Silverknowes Parkway.
    Two sets of two-abreast twernips going anti-clockwise.

    Posted 8 years ago #

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