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Taken from this BBC story:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18438724
The DfT are consulting on increasing Fixed Penalties to £90, and making Careless Driving an FPN offence. The idea being that the current process of prosecuting Careless Driving is overly bureaucratic and so it rarely happens.
I think I like this idea, it could result in cyclists with helmet cameras becoming very lucrative to the Exchequer.
I would like to see points off the licence, or even suspension. I don't care so much about punishing the careless driver as getting them off the roads
I suppose the only risk is that dangerous driving is (even more often) traded down to careless driving and fpn issued instead of dealing with paperwork.
It's like the introduction of "death by careless driving".
Did it result in a lot of "death by dangerous driving" cases being downgraded to reduce the punishment for the perpetrator, or did it promote justice for victims by reflecting that the driver has taken a life in what would otherwise be a very mild conviction of "careless driving" only?
Given they note that driving which resulted in a collision would not be eligible for an FPN, I guess I'm OK with the idea.
Note- the guidelines for issuing FPNs/training options only apply to incidents witnessed by a police officer. If you want to support action being taken over camera evidence submitted to the police, you should respond to Q3 of the consultation.
In Scotland, the total number of careless driving offences has been falling steadily from 16,774 recorded by the police in 1995 to just 8,506 in 2009-10. Maybe the extent of carelessness is falling. Doubt it.
In 1995, 43% were proceeded against in court. By 2009-10 it was down to 39%. Most of them are already dealt with by a fine and endorsement. Only 500 of the 3,509 resulted in a disqualification. The average fine was £249.
Causing death by careless driving doesn't seem to have resulted in fewer causing death by dangerous driving charges. In the two years it's been available (2008-9 and 2009-10 where there's data). There wasn't a noticeable drop (the numbers fluctuate a lot year to year).
Turning this into something dealt with by the police with a fixed penalty notice would probably lead to more people being charged / issued with an FPN. Does it not say that the FPN would involve endorsement. Bizarre if it doesn't when speeding does.
Also, I liked the proposal years ago to deal with them by remedial driver education. Didn't come to anything in Scotland although I think there's a lot of it in E&W.
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