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How to get your child cycling: Spokes

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  1. SRD
    Moderator

    Spokes has created another excellent fact sheet: How to get your child cycling

    Look pretty good, but I wish there were more pictures of girls (and no, I'm not just saying that 'cause they didn't use my picture of my girl!)

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. SRD
    Moderator

    Also not thrilled by another link to 'www.cyclehelmets.org'. Surely a link to Spokes' own factsheet would be better?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. crowriver
    Member

    Still quite a useful handout though.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. Instography
    Member

    I never knew it was so complicated.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. alibali
    Member

    Cyclehelmets.org seems to push a very clear line on helemts and, from what I've seen recently it's view is closely aligned to Spokes'.

    Cyclehelmets strident approach is likely to put off potential cyclists IMO and is therefore counter-productive. Spokes beware.

    Still, Spokes did use a photo of my daughter in their latest newsletter and she managed to smuggle a helmet past the PPE stazi. Proud, very proud.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. wee folding bike
    Member

    7 photos of people in plastic hats.

    5 photos of people with no hat.

    Two sets of arms. No insulating material visible.

    Doesn't seem too strident.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. SRD
    Moderator

    There were lots of girls on bikes in the first Pop photo shoot!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. alibali
    Member

    Doesn't seem too strident.

    Indeed, nicely balanced in fact.

    Unlike cyclehelmets.org

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. wee folding bike
    Member

    Whereas almost every other web page on cycling has everybody be hatted.

    I can understand it with Halfrauds etc because it's a useful secondary purchase.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. Dave
    Member

    Extremely lucrative in fact. I wouldn't be surprised if they make as much margin on the helmet as the bike. Helmets don't tend to last as long either, so good repeat custom.

    I saw a dad taking his two kids to school this morning by bike, all three just wearing normal clothes, not battle dress. Extremely refreshing. :)

    Indeed, nicely balanced in fact.

    Unlike cyclehelmets.org

    Seems like an unrealistic expectation that a website set up to disseminate information that runs counter to received wisdom should, somehow, simultaneously support received wisdom?

    To me, the value of cyclehelmets.org is precisely that it is a mirror to pro-helmet sites and gives the opposing view. Nobody is struggling to find pro-helmet viewpoints after all.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    "I wouldn't be surprised if they make as much margin on the helmet as the bike."

    I wouldn't be surprised if they make TWICE as much margin on the helmet as the bike.

    Complete bikes have relatively low margins - shops try to make it up by selling 'accessories'.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. Instography
    Member

    Presenting both sides of an argument is only one element of balance. There's also the aspect of balance that involves using the data available honestly, not simply cherry-picking the data that supports the case they want to make and ignoring the rest. Mirroring pro-helmet sites is precisely its problem. You can be partisan and balanced. They are just partisan. They are the Richard Dawkins of helmets - so imbalanced that they appear unbalanced and end up alienating even those who agree with their basic position.

    Posted 12 years ago #

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