Wouldn't it be amazing if they had ASL lights for bikes only that gave us a headstart over the trams for this section? Wouldn't solve the narrowness problem, or what to do if all the lights are green as you approach, but might make the motorised users of the road give us time to navigate the dangerous bit.
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"Riding the route" - tram line "cycling vandalism" evidence gathering
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Posted 12 years ago #
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We should have a separate bicycle phase at every set of traffic lights. Like pedestrians already have.
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"We should have a separate bicycle phase at every set of traffic lights"
Works in Copenhagen. It would be nice to have a 'Green Wave' like they (amongst others) have as well.
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I'm tended to agree with the George St. preposition. Leave Princes to the heavies and pedestrianise/cycle lane George St, its not that far out the way, it would much more pleasant and if you're really in a hurry you can still blast along Princes street being mindful of the tram tracks.
Mr Cow, have you changed your name again? Its getting hard to keep up!
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De-personalising and keeping my nose clean... ;)
George Street could be a fab urban space, a true haven in the city. Don't need to 'force' cafe culture in a set-up like that. Loads of other European cities have areas like that. Certainly Paris, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Lyon, Turin, Rome (if I remember correctly), Barcelona... Madrid does to an extent (Plaza de Oriente is lovely). And most other wee towns and cities I've kicked about in France, from what I can gather much of Germany is the same.
Princes Street Gardens is like that, but thinking more of places where people can shop, and stroll, and drink, and just hang out and mingle. Without road noise. Without hitting a button to cross. Seriously, George Street is tailor-made for this, utterly perfect. It's one of the things that would make it into the 'top ten things to do' at the beginning of a Lonely Planet or Rough Guide. But not just for tourists, it would serve locals so so well as well.
But hey, where would all those people park.
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Cow - De-personalising and keeping my nose clean... ;)
As a diary farmer's son, I have to ask - do you know how cows keep their noses clean (and moist)?
Robert
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Yes, and who or what or where is Wilmington?
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Obscure movie reference, which is also the name of my Blipfoto journal, and our regular pub quiz team...
Richard Linklater, Ethan Hawke, Julie Delpy, Before Sunrise, Vienna, students trying to get Hawke and Delpy to go to their play called... Bring my the Horns of Wilmington's Cow.
@Roibeard, one of my friends at school was a dairy farmer's son. I remember getting roped into high-pressure-hosing down the milking shed after the ladies had done their duty.
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@Roibeard: it's not only cows that can do that. It's a useful genetic ability that I've inherited from my father. I can wipe my nose without taking my hands off the handlebars. (I just have to try to remember not to do it while anyone is watching, as for some reason they seem to find it a bit distasteful...)
For any geneticists out there, it's interesting that my daughter can also do it (but my son can't), my brother and three of his four children can do it and oddly one of my cousins can do it too, but she is not related to my father at all. There's obviously an unspeakable mixture of recessive nose-licking genes in my extended family.
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Roughly where we went -
http://www.everytrail.com/view_trip.php?trip_id=1658009
(allowing for GPS inaccuracies)
I left at St. A. Sq. - others were more dedicated and continued to Leith.
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@Greenroofer, so not only your roof that's green.
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El Bovino Von Wilmenheim: Loads of other European cities have areas like that. Certainly Paris, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Lyon, Turin, Rome (if I remember correctly), Barcelona... Madrid does to an extent (Plaza de Oriente is lovely).
Did he miss out Glasgow on purpose, or by oversight? Ponder...
Perth has at least one pedestrianised street too. I spent a happy half hour sitting there reading while the female side of my family shopped for wedding hats.
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@Tom. Given the stunned silence (24 hours without a post to this thread after I made my previous contribution), I think it's best if I leave that question unanswered.
It's a bit like one of those Bateman cartoons: "The man who talked about his genetic ability on the thread about tram chaos". There was a long pause then chdot bravely cleared his throat and said "Roughly where we went..."
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I'm trying to imagine your spy cleaning her nose with her tongue, and it's not fitting in my brain.
Posted 12 years ago # -
I think the best way to present my findings are on the Flickrmap here
I've gone to trouble to try provide comments on them all to point out to the non-cyclists viewing them why they are so thoughtless, careless, idoitic, stupid and at times dangerous situations. I note my commentary got increasingly bitter and frustrated as I went on!
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“Meanwhile, we are still committed to finding ways of improving communications on the tram project that help those affected by the project and which are also good value for money.”
Posted 12 years ago # -
bah! Would have been perfect place to congregate for flyering!
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Posted 12 years ago #
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Please comment if you think I've missed an aspect of why some of these "facilities" are crap, as a non-trailerist, non-cycler-of-children I may not be thinking about things from that point of view
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highlights the complete and utter disregard with which this project and the council in general treat cyclists
It certainly does.
Surely its time for Spokes to cease commending CEC with positive reinforcement for their aspirational vision and yet subsequently appalling third rate cycling infrastructure.
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If anyone else has photos and uses Flickr, I've created a group to collate them together; Project Trambles on Flickr. If you invite yourself to it, I'll add you, then there's unlimited upload capacity.
Would be good to get some older shots too of past misdemeanors.
Posted 12 years ago # -
Lindsay Road pavement is restored and available (and the road beside it restored to its full width). Haven't checked it for signs yet.
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Is it worth resurrecting this thread now that the Trambles are nearly finished...
Haymarket Yard and Broomhouse Path are 2 areas that have been popping up on other threads as 'finished' problem areas.
Could be good to collate all the examples in one place.
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Problem is that the Broomhouse Path hasn't been finished yet. Lots of work still to be completed beneath the bridge opposite Macro, and they've not yet put in the crossing point to reach the still-fenced-off shared use path at Bankhead which heads through the underpass towards Edinburgh Park. It has a sign to indicate it's the bike route crossing, but it's still non-existent!
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Would be worth riding the route again to see how many of the problems have been solved / added to since the first pass.
Posted 11 years ago # -
Good idea!
Day/date suggestions...
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Is this the crossing you were thinking about?
I think that they think it is finished...
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I think that they think it is finished...
Edinburgh Trams confirmed to me a year ago that:
"At present there are no proposals to install chicanes or other speed limiting devices. The crossing itself will be unsegregated and tactiles will be installed at either side of this crossing. I confirm that a Strail crossing will be adopted at this location."
This is why the concrete works have finished.
Posted 11 years ago #
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